A Rivian EV owner was in a fender bender. The repair bill was $42,000.

[Nordberg]

ICEs are soo damn expensive for routine maintenance. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/routine-maintenance-on-a-ferrari-can-cost-more-than-some-new-cars/

 

[Tinkerpeach]

And maybe you spend your time not thinking of reasons to hate liberals. It would do wonders for your mental health.

People are buying EVs because they're cool cars to drive. They're easier and cheaper to maintain. Less moving parts. Simple technology and more reliable. Cheaper to run, too.

Oh, and EVs good for the planet? Icing on the cake. Everybody wins.... Except you fucking MAGA morons.

When my car breaks down it doesn't cost 42,000 to repair so I don't think they are cheaper.

And they certainly aren't cheaper in the dealership.

And waiting an hour for it to recharge isn't cool, it makes you look like an idiot.

And many problems a traditional car breaks down from can be fixed on the road, an EV can't unless you are towing a 1 ton battery behind you.

You are nothing but lies.

 

[Into the Night]

A Rivian owner said his R1T electric pickup truck cost about $42,000 to fix after it was hit at a stoplight earlier this year, according to a report The New York Times.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/new...-bender-the-repair-bill-was-42000/ar-AA1dSxg2

He was lucky. This type of accident can easily total the truck.

 

[Into the Night]

Rivian replacement parts aren't mass-produced. $42K still seems high to me so I think we're looking at scarcity...of parts and authorized repair shops. And some scamming too. That repair shop has a golden ticket and it knows it.

No scamming. Rivian parts ARE mass produced. The problem is that they are expensive parts and require a specially equipped shop to handle them.

 

[Lightbringer]

I remember years ago agreeing to help someone repair the water pump on a Ferrari. Unbolt the AC compressor and move it out of the way, then the alternator, then the power steering pump, then remove the valve covers, then pull the pump out, after which you have to grind and collapse the rear bearing in this tunnel-like housing because you can't pull it with any kind of bearing puller...

I had to work on my Mom's Kia Soul today. That was a joy. I loved every minute of it.

I miss the old days when you could open the hood and literally sit in the engine compartment while you were working on the car, with every part visible and accessible.

 

[Into the Night]

Cost to fix two dents and scratches on Model 3, $9k ?

Joey wets panties

This is fairly accurate for very minor dent repair and scratch removal.. If the car gets in an accident, It is easily totaled.

 

[Lightbringer]

No scamming. Rivian parts ARE mass produced. The problem is that they are expensive parts and require a specially equipped shop to handle them.

I think you and I have different opinions on what mass-produced means.

 

[Into the Night]

g
Have you tried to insure your Ferrari? How about your Rolls?

EVs are not a Ferrari or Rolls Royce.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I had to work on my Mom's Kia Soul today. That was a joy. I loved every minute of it.

I miss the old days when you could open the hood and literally sit in the engine compartment while you were working on the car, with every part visible and accessible.

That's a great thing. My Lotus Europa is that way. Four nuts and the back hood / bonnet is off. Sit on the transaxle as you work on the engine.

 

[Into the Night]

Ya I have heard about that, but I am thinking more along the lines of a car in the 70's (I forget which one) where the oil filter was almost impossible to change because the engineers and design teams forgot about that.

Changing an oil filter is not usually a problem.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Changing an oil filter is not usually a problem.

Exactly, because if it is someone sure screwed up.

 

[Lightbringer]

Ya I have heard about that, but I am thinking more along the lines of a car in the 70's (I forget which one) where the oil filter was almost impossible to change because the engineers and design teams forgot about that.

Are you sure it was in the '70's? The '80's downsized Cadillacs were not easy to change.

 

[Lionfish]

That's a great thing. My Lotus Europa is that way. Four nuts and the back hood / bonnet is off. Sit on the transaxle as you work on the engine.

One of Coventry's best.

 

[Lionfish]

ICEs are soo damn expensive for routine maintenance. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/routine-maintenance-on-a-ferrari-can-cost-more-than-some-new-cars/

Nordy, what you miss is the fact there are millions of vehicle owners that LOVE the mechanics, the quirks, and the wonderful sounds that come from an ICE vehicle. I don't care if you want to transport yourself in a golf cart, what does piss me off is when the government tells me I have to drive a golf cart.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

When my car breaks down it doesn't cost 42,000 to repair so I don't think they are cheaper.

And they certainly aren't cheaper in the dealership.

And waiting an hour for it to recharge isn't cool, it makes you look like an idiot.

And many problems a traditional car breaks down from can be fixed on the road, an EV can't unless you are towing a 1 ton battery behind you.

You are nothing but lies.

When you have to lie to make your point, you know you've lost.

People are buying EVs in record numbers. You can't deny that and there's nothing you can do about it so deal with it and STFU, bitch.

But I do love the fact that the popularity of EVs are making you MAGA morons so triggered and butthurt.

It pleases me.

 

[Nordberg]

Strange that people who actually drive EVs are being informed of what it is like by people who hate them. No, we do not wait long times for charging. It is done at night with about 10 seconds of time required. Yeah, that is a hell of a lot more convenient than looking for a gas station and pumping the time gas takes.
I have seen so many ICE being towed. It must be a new sport since ICEs are fixed roadside. Only EVs need towing except for some reason they cannot be towed.
There will be ICE around for all your lifetimes. You will be driving belching autos. Quit crying.

 

[Into the Night]

Why would you think that?

Because EVs can only be repaired by the dealer.

I suppose because you want to.

No, it's because EVs can only be repaired by the dealer.

However, a new auto has repair and maintenance a couple of its objectives.

No, it isn't. However, IF a repair is needed, I can do it myself. I don't need to repair it at the dealer.

You do not ignore important factors like that.

Not a factor.

You want repeat customers and a good reputation.

A piece of shit car that constantly requires repair is NOT a good reputation. A car that can only be repaired at the dealer is NOT a good reputation.

You do not build plants and assembly lines to throw them away after a year or 2.

That's right. You retool them.

 

[Into the Night]

The 429 Boss Mustang you had to loosen a engine mount and jack the side of the engine up to remove a rear spark plug.

Dumb design. Ford always had spatial relationship problems. They seem to have a lot of difficulty getting their head wrapped around hydraulics too. I've seen some pretty wacky plumbing on Fords.

 

[Into the Night]

And maybe you spend your time not thinking of reasons to hate liberals.

Why should I embrace the tyranny you crave? Why should I embrace the perversions you crave? Why should I embrace the fear you crave? Why should I embrace the hatred you crave?

It would do wonders for your mental health.

My mental health is just fine, thank you very much.

People are buying EVs because they're cool cars to drive.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a good one!! Let's see you shove THAT attitude past your typical Texas rancher!

They're easier and cheaper to maintain.

Blatant lie. They are more expensive to buy and maintain. I can buy THREE brand new Subaru Imprezas for what I have to pay for a Tesla Model 3. EVs can only be repaired at the dealer. I can repair any gasoline or diesel car myself using commonly available tools.

Less moving parts.

So? The one moving part that counts is the wheels.

Simple technology and more reliable.

They are NOT more reliable. Tesla has the highest recall rate of any car manufacturer.

Cheaper to run, too.

They are NOT cheaper to run. You still have to charge them and maintain them. You are essentially limited to freeways and cities.

Oh, and EVs good for the planet? Icing on the cake.

EV's don't 'save the planet'. It doesn't need 'saving'. EVs require the open strip mining of lithium, and processing steps that can take YEARS before the lithium is ready to be shipped to a battery manufacturer. Lithium is NOT a renewable material. Lithium mining often uses tremendous amounts of sulfuric acid for processing. Acid that is left to leach into the soil. EV's must be charged. That requires the use of power plants that are typically burning coal, oil, or natural gas to produce power. Mandating EVs' would require far more high tension lines crisscrossing the landscape, AND the blight they are. It would also require many new power plants to be built, and the blight THEY are.

Everybody wins.... Except you fucking MAGA morons.

The tyranny of mandating or subsidizing EVs or any of it's required infrastructure is not a win. The limitations of the EV is not a win.
MAGA is not a person nor a moron.

 

[Into the Night]

Why not? They are expensive ICEs to repair in an accident. You picked a selective case and implied EVs are more expensive to repair.

Doesn't take much of an accident to total an EV. A single battery damaged totals the car. That's a pretty minor accident, dude. The EV cannot be repaired.
Trucks can withstand such an accident, maybe even replace a body panel or so, that drive on.