A modest proposal.

I first look at who's posting the Thread ...

That's all I need to know.

Good thought. I have trouble keeping people straight, though, so I'll still find myself in threads only to realize, after typing a response, that I'm not allowed to post. It's frustrating. I know I'm supposed to check the top, first, to see who is banned, but as a practical matter I forget.
 
If you were smart enough to look at the thread bans before taking the time to draft a response....
Yes, I'm aware that I'm supposed to check the top to see who is banned, before posting. But it's not a natural thing -- I go from reading the headline directly to reading the body of the text. It seems like it would save everyone both time and clutter if it simply didn't show up from our view, unless our participation were permitted. It would also give people an incentive not to ban people, since there'd be no using it as a one-way propaganda method.
 
NOPE


we need to see what the idiots are posting in fear of facts


Just start a new thread of the same name and kick their ass generated ideas with facts


NEVER NEVER NEVER ignore lies and evil

I suppose. It gets a bit cluttered that way, though.

I don't tend to post at the top level very often, because I hate adding to the scroll. It's infuriating to put the time and effort to write a well-researched, lengthier post, only to have it vanish into the oblivion of page two a few minutes later, unseen, because of a bunch of duplicative threads and one-liner entries.
 
just think of it as a subject you can return too when further evidence arises to prove your point


You would also be amazed at how many people read our words but don't post

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any time you feel that way send me a note about the thread and Ill comment on it
 
If the forum's engine allows this tweak, how about making it so anyone banned from participating in a thread doesn't see the thread at all? Occasionally, I have wasted my time drafting a response to a point, only to see that the person who posted it has hidden from contradiction by banning those members he fears.

I don't care if our more delicate members need to shelter themselves that way. Cowards will be cowards, after all. But it would be better if they weren't taking up space from the perspective of the rest of us. And it would be much better if there were no risk of missing the fact the thread's been constrained, since that can lead to time wasted on responses.


Bingo that
 
Yes, I'm aware that I'm supposed to check the top to see who is banned, before posting. But it's not a natural thing -- I go from reading the headline directly to reading the body of the text. It seems like it would save everyone both time and clutter if it simply didn't show up from our view, unless our participation were permitted. It would also give people an incentive not to ban people, since there'd be no using it as a one-way propaganda method.

I don't have a problem with your proposal although I don't give a shit either way. When someone thread bans me, it tells me more about that person than any post they could make. All I was addressing was that there IS a way to see if you're banned BEFORE you draft a long answer and get a message you can't post.

Whether or not those they don't want posting can see it wouldn't be an incentive to not ban. If their intention is for you to not be able to post, they likely don't give a shit whether you see it their thread or not.
 
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If their intention is for you to not be able to post, they likely don't give a shit whether you see it their thread or not.

Judging by the people I see doing it, and the content of their posts, I strongly suspect many of them very much want the banned people to see it. In fact, right in this thread, one of the dumber members of the forum was reacting gleefully to the notion that someone might have tried to post in one of his threads just to get the "you are not allowed" error message. He said it really made his day. I suspect that although he might be unusual in being stupid enough to state it that way, many who use the threadban feature are looking for something similar -- they're trolls who want to push their propaganda in a way their political enemies will see it (thus, not confining it to moderated forums reserved for their own kind), but fearing actual responses.
 
If the forum's engine allows this tweak, how about making it so anyone banned from participating in a thread doesn't see the thread at all? Occasionally, I have wasted my time drafting a response to a point, only to see that the person who posted it has hidden from contradiction by banning those members he fears.

I don't care if our more delicate members need to shelter themselves that way. Cowards will be cowards, after all. But it would be better if they weren't taking up space from the perspective of the rest of us. And it would be much better if there were no risk of missing the fact the thread's been constrained, since that can lead to time wasted on responses.
how about, if you've been banned you just stay out of it......
 
You've got my vote, too, Oneuli.

(Although I don't think this change is going to be made.)

I wrote out a fairly long reply to something last week...clicked the POST button...and got the message, "You are not allowed to post in this thread."

When that happens, copy and paste into a new thread and ban the OP.
 
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