A Failed Presidency -- The American Problem

PostmodernProphet said:
/grins......"you can't believe what you hear because Fox broadcast it!"........liberals are such silly creatures.....
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How many times have they been caught in a lie, or had to issue a retraction? When have they ever reported anything positive about the president>? When?
Liberals are silly creatures? While conservatives are just "creatures" (read: monsters).
 
poet said:
How many times have they been caught in a lie, or had to issue a retraction? When have they ever reported anything positive about the president>? When?
Liberals are silly creatures? While conservatives are just "creatures" (read: monsters).
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it's a fucking video.......either you can watch and listen or you can't.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
wtf.....implying?......no, I'm stating it outright......Obama is incompetent......and a president who wasn't intent on being incompetent wouldn't have met resistance, except perhaps from his own party......
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Now, you're the epitome of a dishonest poster. What person, in their right mind, excluding the celebrated Barack Obama, would be intent, willfully on being incompetent. You have destroyed any vestige of credibility you may have been credited with, by suggesting something so inane and preposterous. There is a reason I have you on ignore on the other forum...here, now , as well.
 
How many Democrats that can afford the cost send their kids to public schools ?....NONE and its the same with Republicans....

At least Republicans want to give those without means some help with vouchers .... a little help is better than no help, but Dems won't agree....
Why do you suppose Charter Schools, Religious Schools and even home schooling is on the rise ?
The public school system is a failure and a black hole to throw our tax money down.....its union welfare and a way for Dems to buy votes to keep them in power
 
Onceler said:
Huh?

Can you list the Presidents who haven't met resistance?
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really?......you can't think of any presidents who've proposed doing the right thing and a majority of Congress passed it for him to sign?......persisting in trying to do something that a majority of Congress will not approve is hardly a definition of competence.........
 
Onceler said:
The political dynamics aren't really all that different from the '90's, and Clinton worked both sides beautifully. For all his flaws, that guy was a magnificent politician, and a perfect leader for that time.
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When in the 1990s? The dynamics were not constant.

Onceler said:
Obama doesn't have that. If you don't think the media perception & that of average Americans and even many supporters has changed & diminished, you're wrong.
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Source it then. I'm sure that some reputable polling outfit had the goods to support your contention. It sounds like genuine "conventional wisdom" horseshit to me. What's funny is that according to Gallup, at this point in his presidency Clinton was at 46%. Obama is at 42% approval. Not too far off. And the economy is much much worse now than it was then. Reagan was at 44%.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
wtf.....implying?......no, I'm stating it outright......Obama is incompetent......and a president who wasn't intent on being incompetent wouldn't have met resistance, except perhaps from his own party......
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What? Man dude, I dont' know what you're smoking but you better share some with Topper before he gets mad at you for bogarting!

By that measure every President in US History has been incompetent. Spare us the hackery PMP and please contribute to the conversation. You're not stupid and we'd thank you if you'd appreciate that we're not stupid either.
 
bravo said:
How many Democrats that can afford the cost send their kids to public schools ?....NONE and its the same with Republicans....

At least Republicans want to give those without means some help with vouchers .... a little help is better than no help, but Dems won't agree....
Why do you suppose Charter Schools, Religious Schools and even home schooling is on the rise ?
The public school system is a failure and a black hole to throw our tax money down.....its union welfare and a way for Dems to buy votes to keep them in power
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It's failure only because Republicans refuse to fund it, and pay good teachers what they are worth...how could any sane nation cut back on education, and keep up competitive with the rest of the world? Insanity.
 
poet said:
Now, you're the epitome of a dishonest poster. What person, in their right mind, excluding the celebrated Barack Obama, would be intent, willfully on being incompetent. You have destroyed any vestige of credibility you may have been credited with, by suggesting something so inane and preposterous. There is a reason I have you on ignore on the other forum...here, now , as well.
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If you put everyone on JPP that said something dumb or irrelevent on ignore you won't have a lot of conversations but yea....that was a doozy of a comment by PMP....gave me a chuckle.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
What? Man dude, I dont' know what you're smoking but you better share some with Topper before he gets mad at you for bogarting!

By that measure every President in US History has been incompetent. Spare us the hackery PMP and please contribute to the conversation. You're not stupid and we'd thank you if you'd appreciate that we're not stupid either.
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Precisely what I told him. Except, he is stupid. .
 
Mott the Hoople said:
If you put everyone on JPP that said something dumb or irrelevent on ignore you won't have a lot of conversations but yea....that was a doozy of a comment by PMP....gave me a chuckle.
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Hey, so be it. I only have the racists, bigots and stupids on ignore...they can't converse anyway.
 
poet said:
Now, you're the epitome of a dishonest poster. What person, in their right mind, excluding the celebrated Barack Obama, would be intent, willfully on being incompetent. You have destroyed any vestige of credibility you may have been credited with, by suggesting something so inane and preposterous. There is a reason I have you on ignore on the other forum...here, now , as well.
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What competent senator would vote present rather than take a principled stand on important issues.....what competent president would give speech rather than construct a plan that could be presented to congress and voted on........what competent president would have the one plan he did present voted no on unanimously by his own party.....
You gotta wake up and smell the roses....
 
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