A Civil Discussion: Evolution, Science, Theology, Atheism, Climate

Of course it was to a fool like you. Again, the notion that man evolved from ooze requires the willful suspension of intelligence and common sense. But you run with that one. :rofl2:

I don't really know why you're trying to engage in a discussion on evolution when you don't understand the basics of it.
 
Human Caused Clinmate Change Is Real And A Threat

The climate is changing. Humans are the cause. We must take steps to reverse the damages we have done to our own environment.

We must not only stop increasing CO2 emissions, we must reduce them to a level below previous levels, so that the damages caused by climate change can be stopped.

And we must do this right away, without delay. We cannot wait until anything is proven. When the proof is upon us it will be too late to do enough to reverse the process.

There is a delay time between the rising CO2 levels and the destructive effects of climate change.

It is sad that over 50% of ocean coral reefs have already been lost.

That alone is reason to change the way we do business and get energy.
 
I don't really know why you're trying to engage in a discussion on evolution when you don't understand the basics of it.

I think the people who don't understand the basics of it are people like you who seem to believe it explains how man evolved. :rofl2:

What do you believe the theory says about mans evolution? Do educate me.
 
I think the people who don't understand the basics of it are people like you who seem to believe it explains how man evolved. :rofl2:

What do you believe the theory says about mans evolution? Do educate me.

It's not really what I think - the fossil record backs up our evolutionary history.

And all life on the planet has a common ancestor.
 
No, not that I can think of off-hand. I've taken several college-level bio courses though so I am familiar with both macro and micro-evolution. BTW, learning how we are what we are today -- and all the other lifeforms we share the planet with -- in no way erases the wonder and feeling of awe at the beauty and complexity of life on Earth. I have no personal need for a creator deity in order to appreciate and know gratitude for this place.

I’ve done the same, plus read Darwin’s book and several other books that question the status quo.

If you haven’t found anything in evolution to be skeptical about, you either haven’t looked or you don’t want to.
 
Genome similarities between a human and amoeba is about 80%. With a chimp it's about 95%.

Even with a banana, it's about 30%.

Common ancestor.

Let’s assume those numbers are accurate.

Think about what that means. Amoeba’s metabolize at least some nutrients by a similar chemical pathway as ourselves; they produce ATP; construct cell walls and etc. And that would account for at least some of the genetic similarities.

What about the other 55-60% of their genomes? Would it somehow be ‘unscientific’ if someone looked to see if any part of the amoeba genome coded for livers, spleens or arms and legs?
 
Let’s assume those numbers are accurate.

Think about what that means. Amoeba’s metabolize at least some nutrients by a similar chemical pathway as ourselves; they produce ATP; construct cell walls and etc. And that would account for at least some of the genetic similarities.

What about the other 55-60% of their genomes? Would it somehow be ‘unscientific’ if someone looked to see if any part of the amoeba genome coded for livers, spleens or arms and legs?

I don't even know what this question means.

Any similarities at all would be a crazy coincidence without a common ancestor. Just the presence of DNA.
 
I don't even know what this question means.

Any similarities at all would be a crazy coincidence without a common ancestor. Just the presence of DNA.

Coming up with novel body plans from scratch, seems like a pretty crazy coincidence lol.

What good is one arm or leg?

I think you get the question, actually. You would be forced to conclude ‘crazy coincidence’ because the alternative is unacceptable and/or on account of your presuppositions about how life came to be.
 
Coming up with novel body plans from scratch, seems like a pretty crazy coincidence lol.

What good is one arm or leg?

I think you get the question, actually. You would be forced to conclude ‘crazy coincidence’ because the alternative is unacceptable and/or on account of your presuppositions about how life came to be.

Again, you're losing me. I believe in god, so that idea isn't "unacceptable." But I also believe everything has a common ancestor...don't you?
 
not needed if they weren't around at the time.....

Yet most of them would have been around before humans or even stone age tools.

Your version of that story would be more like a scene from Disney's Cinderella, with Noah the shrew sailing on log turned into the ark by the fairy Godmother, than anything from the bible.
 
"Genome similarities between a human and amoeba is about 80%. With a chimp it's about 95%.

Even with a banana, it's about 30%." T1 #271
I doubt if an amoeba is 80% a banana is 30%.
Perhaps more likely the other way around.
 
Again, you're losing me. I believe in god, so that idea isn't "unacceptable." But I also believe everything has a common ancestor...don't you?

Ok, in studying amoeba DNA, workers find a segment that codes for something that exists in higher life forms—say lungs for example.

What’s their conclusion?

I’m agnostic about common descent—-and that’s after wholly accepting it and wholly rejecting it. I’ve been all over the lot. I just don’t know lol.
 
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