2012 Predictions...

Obama v. Romney - Romney rolls Obama, but christian fundementalist roll Mitt first.

Obama v. Palin - Edge Obama,

Obama v. Newt - Newt has zero shot beyond his Klan and dixie like moron base.

Obama v. Hukabee - Blowout Obama, huck can't win anything but best sermon or biggest loser.

Obama v. Unknown as of this time - Very likely a win by unknown, unless the economy makes a miraculus recovery.
 
Very respectable predictions, I disagree on Romney... But we may see! That's the thing about "unknown" no negative! Once unknown is known.... You get the negative!
 
Topspin;710522]Obama v. Romney - Romney rolls Obama, but christian fundementalist roll Mitt first. very likely

Obama v. Palin - Edge Obama, easy

Obama v. Newt - Newt has zero shot beyond his Klan and dixie like moron base. not necessarily and truly your trademark dumbass comments about klans etc...

Obama v. Hukabee - Blowout Obama, huck can't win anything but best sermon or biggest loser. true

Obama v. Unknown as of this time - Very likely a win by unknown, unless the economy makes a miraculus recovery. agreed, but obama will have a hard time even with the economy, he has lost HUGE political capital already
 
It's probably not going to be Romney. His 'approval' numbers are just too low nationwide. He polls well in the moderate northeast, and that is a definite plus for the GOP overall, but he can't win the nomination, without the conservative south, in my opinion.

Just speculating, I think Newt has the best shot at this point, but that is solely based on name recognition and a presumption of his message. Aside from Gingrich, it's hard for me to count Palin out completely, she has generated an enormous amount of enthusiasm and support among the conservative base, and remains wildly popular in spite of relentless attacks from both liberals and establishment republicans. But I will reiterate, I personally think the 2012 GOP nominee will be someone we aren't even talking about right now. Something just tells me a person will emerge after 2010, to become the voice of conservatives, and solidify support across the spectrum of conservatives, both the libertarian independent types, and social conservatives.

Now, I fully understand how a liberal has no ability to reason any of this, to them, anyone right of Karl Marx has no chance in hell against King Obama, and I can understand how Libertarian Ron Paul types, don't see a Sarah Palin or Newt winning the GOP nomination, but you guys are biased in your viewpoints, you are not considering the sentiment of the majority, or even really in tune with the majority thinking. The GOP nominee will have to be someone who can transcend the divide between social cons and libertarians, to be able to bring both sides together in a coalition. This will likely be done on matters of fiscal policy, perhaps national security, but those of you who are wishing for a GOP candidate who distances himself/herself from social conservatism, are living in a fantasy world, that won't happen, and the GOP can't win without social cons...meaning, pro life... anti-gay marriage... etc.
 
Threedee said:
Romney losing votes in the South doesn't effect his Electoral results, only his size of the popular vote.
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He polls low in not just the south, but the midwest and southwest as well. Last I checked, it was around a 29% favorable rating, compared with Palin at 43% and Gingrich at 46%... that's not a poll of Alabama Christians, it's nationwide average.
 
Threedee said:
If Palin is outpolling real candiates, then the GOP deserves to lose.
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Well, 3d, you can bash and trash her all you like, it seems to just drive her popularity even higher when you do. I would suggest you attack her on the issues and her message instead, this petty little personal attack game isn't going to work any better for you than it has for liberal democrats.

And it's really not going to be about who 'deserves to lose', it's most likely going to be about returning to core conservative principles, and whether or not the country wants to continue down the dismal path of failed socialist policies. As for people like you, if you can't pull your heads out of your libertarian asses and help save us from certain Marxist socialism, you 'deserve' to live in the miserable existence you're going to get as a result.
 
Jarod said:
I like to do this from time to time...

I know this is fairly meaningless, even though I have a good track record, but who do you belive will win the 2012 race in the following matchups....

Obama v. Romney - Edge Obama, but it would be close.

Obama v. Palin - Blowout Obama, but it will not happen bc Palin cant win the nomination and likely wont run.

Obama v. Newt - Blowout Obama, He may run, he cant win the nomination.

Obama v. Hukabee - Blowout Obama, he cant get nomination and wont run.

Obama v. Unknown as of this time - Very likely a win by unknown.
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I bet almost anyone could win against Obama right now.

And I don't think things are going to get any better for him by 2012.
 
I belive Romney could beat Obama, but not after barely winning a very tough brusing nomination fight that would almost certantly be required.

I doubt the Republicans will nominate him.
 
Dixie said:
Well, 3d, you can bash and trash her all you like, it seems to just drive her popularity even higher when you do. I would suggest you attack her on the issues and her message instead, this petty little personal attack game isn't going to work any better for you than it has for liberal democrats.

And it's really not going to be about who 'deserves to lose', it's most likely going to be about returning to core conservative principles, and whether or not the country wants to continue down the dismal path of failed socialist policies. As for people like you, if you can't pull your heads out of your libertarian asses and help save us from certain Marxist socialism, you 'deserve' to live in the miserable existence you're going to get as a result.
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Its morons like you who actually take her seriously. Its the same kind of nonsense that got O'Donnel nominated, not because she is like Palin (I consider her a serious politician), but because there is no strategy in running somewhere where you can't win when there is someone willing to run instead, who is a shoe-in.
 
WHIG Party Swills Tea

Jarod said:
I belive Romney could beat Obama, but not after barely winning a very tough brusing nomination fight that would almost certantly be required.

I doubt the Republicans will nominate him.
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You'd need an Eisenhower Republican to beat Obama. I can think of only two and they both refuse to support the new WHIGs.
 
I'm telling you guys, if they had the elections tomorrow, Sara Palin would stomp Obama's ass. You people are just not grasping the fact that she has overwhelming public support. That might change as she campaigns, and we get closer to crunch time, but for right now, her popularity is through the roof, and frankly, I don't see anyone else remotely close to generating that kind of enthusiasm with the base of conservatives.

I'll challenge you "libertarian" fucks once more... Cite something that she stands for or is advocating, that you do not agree with? If all you can do is dismiss her because she is pretty, or because she can see Russia from her back yard, or because she hunts moose... you really don't have much to be opposed to her on, in my opinion. Her conservative values are what will win her the support of conservatives across the board, and I think you may be a bit surprised at just how 'libertarian' her actual views are on the social issues, she just hasn't been given the chance to articulate those at this point. I believe she thinks like most conservatives, that these touchy social conservative issues should be left up to the people of the states to decide, and not the Federal Government.
 
She can't see Russia, and I love the fact that she is pretty. She just isn't intelligent, and I can't remember when exactly it was that she lost me, but I keep coming back to the interview where the BA in Journalism got stumped by a question about what newsprints she reads.

I also love the fact that she is very strong, raises some difficult children, can shoot a gun, survive in the wild, and a whole host of other things. If she complemented her looks, willpower, strength, and stamina with some intellect and better speech presentation (the winking, flirting, etc.), she could have gone somewhere...
 
Threedee said:
She can't see Russia, and I love the fact that she is pretty. She just isn't intelligent, and I can't remember when exactly it was that she lost me, but I keep coming back to the interview where the BA in Journalism got stumped by a question about what newsprints she reads.

I also love the fact that she is very strong, raises some difficult children, can shoot a gun, survive in the wild, and a whole host of other things. If she complemented her looks, willpower, strength, and stamina with some intellect and better speech presentation (the winking, flirting, etc.), she could have gone somewhere...
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Uhm... Yes, you can see parts of Russia from parts of Alaska, they are like 38 miles apart. Palin is extremely intelligent, not a "Harvard Grad" but look at how well the last couple of those have turned out for ya!

You're stuck on the 'ambush gotchya interview' she did with Katie Couric, which was totally and completely designed, edited, and set up to make her look as stupid as possible. Congratulations, you have everything it takes to become a brainwashed little pinhead liberal!

Again, I pose the challenge to you... Tell me what she advocates or supports, that you do not like! Tell me specifically, what you 'oppose' in her message? You've not done that! Do you just not comprehend this, or what? If Palin is not the "right person" tell me why she's not... it can't be some personal prejudice, like "she's dumb" or something without merit. She's obviously smart enough to be elected governor of Alaska, and be picked for the second highest office in the land by John McCain.... I haven't seen YOU accomplish anything close to that.
 
Palin can neither see Russia from Wasilla or Juneau, as neither is located near the Bering Straight.

Stupidity should be a deal-breaker in any candidate, and I don't care what they believe in.
 
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