Made In The USA

Return of Dune said:
red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red. That is all the times I wanted to say red. Oh plus, what do you cut with your ryobi, cardbord? Must have a sharp blade or something.

Must be mod priveledge, I couldn't quote you.
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My sawzall cuts through 1 1/2 inch 4340 plates like butter. I prefer it to my torch if I have the time (acetylene is fucking expensive). But mostly I use it in doing non metal work.
 
Superfreak said:
LOL... which is why businesses are leaving the rust belt and moving south? They can't compete?

You do realize that someone making $80k in Detroit is about the same standard of living as someone making $68k in Birmingham? Hmmm... I wonder which I would choose if I were a business and could get the same quality of production.
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Lulz no, someone making 80k here has around a 110k standard of living as Alabama.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
and if it wasn't for the Union workers up here they'd be making $10 bucks an hour like they did in the textile mills before they all closed down and moved to China where they could pay $0.25/hour and you completely ignored the fact that there are about 10 times as many auto workers up here then there are in the south. Not to mention who you good ole boys down there call "The really good ones" are your pals and family members who don't know shit while no one else get's to negotiate at all cause you good ole boys think only you should have that right cause you're better then everyone else when what you really are, are a bunch of corrupt punk. Which is why you can't compete with us up here and is why "Made in the South" is right up there with "Made in Pakistan" LOL
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On the flip side, there's the Boeing Corporation, where the union is so powerful that screw-ups often get promoted to save the company from further loses after they royally fuck-up a project.
 
Emperor Nero said:
I have decided to go specifically out of my way to not buy American, due to your post, Leaningright. If there are two products, one Japanese, one American, and the Japanese product is shittier and costs more, I will buy the Japanese product. This is only justice, retaliation for traitors like you who are disloyal to your fellow human beings. The fact that people as treasonous as you exist is disgusting. Why should I be disloyal to non-Mississippians? The south has always been an embarrassment to the United States and humanity in general, full of ignorant, stupid oafs, primitive thinkers like you who are incapable of single logical thought, haters of knowledge and light, self-righteous pieces of shit who are the most immoral peoples to have ever existed in human history. And why should I be irrationally disloyal to non-Americans? Indeed, there is a great deal of reason to be less loyal to Americans than I am to others, because Americans are stupid, aggressive bullies who take pride in needlessly killing others to sate their sadistic pleasure, thoughtlessly repressing the third world to serve their own interests, taking pride in their deliberate lack of knowledge, and giving the produce of the productive classes to a parasitic upperclass. No, if an American has no job, he deserves it. All unemployed Americans deserve their suffering. I am disappointed that the unemployment rate isn't higher. No, my fellow human beings abroad are much more deserving of my money than these pieces of shit I had the misfortune of being born around. who don't even deserve to be called human. I will seek to further the employment of those who deserve it, and Americans don't deserve to be employed.
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I found this "burn" to be very interesting. The problem with Watermark is I can never tell when he is serious, sarcastic or just drunk. If this is the way you really feel WM.....well, keep feeling your way and I will keep feeling mine. More power to ya.
 
I belive in buying the best product at your price point, doing otherwise is coddeling and encouraging mediocre. Let the market produce the best product for the best price.
 
Anyway, especially with the way the economy is depressed right now, these movements can do some good. I'd even say that it's possible that temporary state protectionism could do some good, although that has the potential for retaliation from other countries which may persist into the long-term and can damage our economy. Obviously, if you could convince everyone in America to only buy Americans products, while foreigners failed to retaliate and kept buying American products like normal, we'd be golden. But that's not realistic. There is some room for a little beggar-thy-neighorishness, though.
 
Jarod said:
Birmingham is a nice city, but the people and the politics suck!
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Birmingham is a schizophrenic city. On the one hand parts of it are incredibly picturesque with some really cordial and friendly people. Then parts of it are incredibly blighted and I met some of the most obnoxiously tight assed blue bloods there who don't think anyone who can't record their family going back 16 generations in Birmingham are subhuman life forms.
 
sedan said:
I have never understood those who (on the one hand) champion the rights to assemble and associate and negotiate if these rights are exercised separately, but who (on the other hand) excoriate those who exercise these same rights simultaneously -- that is, when citizens bargain collectively with their employers.
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Its called capitalism. Unions are by definitions, monopolies. They also prevent the talented employees from making more money, and the crappy ones from getting fired.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
and if it wasn't for the Union workers up here they'd be making $10 bucks an hour like they did in the textile mills before they all closed down and moved to China where they could pay $0.25/hour and you completely ignored the fact that there are about 10 times as many auto workers up here then there are in the south. Not to mention who you good ole boys down there call "The really good ones" are your pals and family members who don't know shit while no one else get's to negotiate at all cause you good ole boys think only you should have that right cause you're better then everyone else when what you really are, are a bunch of corrupt punk. Which is why you can't compete with us up here and is why "Made in the South" is right up there with "Made in Pakistan" LOL
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As usual Moot you have no substance to your arguments. Cronyism is inherent in union shops. Unions raise employment costs and at the same time lower standards by carrying the crappy employees. Jobs go to The South and to China to avoid union issues in the North.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Exactly. Keep in mind that by "the really good ones" he means "Us good ole boys". You'll never be "A really good one" cause you aint one of them. By their lights how skillful and productive you are matters not at all. Why in DY's eye a master tool maker is worth just as much as a janitor.
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Liar.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Birmingham is a schizophrenic city. On the one hand parts of it are incredibly picturesque with some really cordial and friendly people. Then parts of it are incredibly blighted and I met some of the most obnoxiously tight assed blue bloods there who don't think anyone who can't record their family going back 16 generations in Birmingham are subhuman life forms.
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Yup, those people liked me because I can trace my family back 16 generations in Alabama anyway. But it was not too hard to see what kinda people they are.
 
Jarod said:
Yup, those people liked me because I can trace my family back 16 generations in Alabama anyway. But it was not too hard to see what kinda people they are.
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I'm kinda used to that and laugh it off. Birmingham, for the most part, is a nice city but it aint like it's the cultural center of the universe. I grew up in a rural farm town that had people like that. Hick farmers who looked down their noses at you if your family hadn't lived in the area of umpteen generations. I was like...."Who the hell in their right mind would want to?" LOL
 
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