Made In The USA

Return of Dune said:
Ryobi is crap. Mikita has some good tools. For metalworking you want Metabo or Fein. Dewalt sucks too. Milwaulkee tools last well and are a good value but Metabo outlasts Milwaukee 3 or 4 to one and only costs twice as much. For air, Dynabrade is king. For welders go red, fuck blue, homeowner garbage. Going high tech, go Thermal Dynamics.

My CNC is a Bridgeport Series II but I have heard good things about Haas.
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Mikitas don't feel as well built to me. Nor do they have a battery sawzall. Ryobi does, and has served me well for a long time. As for welders, you can say go red all you want, but Miller makes the best TIG machines on the market.
 
DamnYankee said:
We still have factory jobs here in The South, because we have the Right To Work. Unions have pretty much destroyed factories up north though.
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Bullshit.

Why do you oppose interfering in the economy to demand fair regulation of corporations, but suddenly support government interference in the economy to artificially depress the value of human labor? Doesn't the market know best? Now, of course I think it doesn't. But your not being consistent in your beliefs.
 
leaningright said:
OK, I know I am a Loyalist, as far as I know the definition of the word. I am loyal to the place where I work and work hard to make it successful. I am loyal to my part of the state (looked at as the 'hicks' of the state by those further west) and I am loyal to my state overall. I root for all of my state teams and only root against OSU when they play OU....(yes, my team got waxed last weekend)...and partly because of that loyalty to my my state I think OSU should play LSU in the title game instead of Alabama. [off subject] [back on] I am also loyal to the United States and think we are the greatest country on earth...you know, flag in the yard, supporting soldiers (sending some care packages this week), etc. I also try to buy everything that I use "Made In America" from cars to cell phones to whatever I use. That is why I was happy to see this ABC news piece and decided to share it here. Hopefully most of you can watch it and then....tell me, whatdyathink? I really think we need to look at what is damaging the creation of jobs in this country. There is no reason we can't have factories here and create stuff here....and there is certainly nothing wrong with working at a factory job to support one's family.

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You are loyal to everything besides humanity. Loyal to stupidity, disloyal to rationality. And that's what makes you the greatest traitor of all.
 
leaningright said:
While I would agree with you that technology has impacted the job marke a great deal, I have to say that outsourcing still impacts it with real jobs disappearing quickly. For example, in the county seat of my county there was a manufacturing plant...on a small scale mind you and I'm not even sure what they manufactured as I was a kid at the time. In the late 80's the plant moved all operations to Mexico. In a town of about 20,000 people serving a county or perhaps two-county area with jobs, those 600 or so jobs gone pretty much overnight, that was a huge blow to local job availability. Now in Ft. Smith, Whirlpool has been consistently downsizing in recent years, and now are shutting the doors of that factory permanently to move operations overseas...or at least out of the United States. Those couple of thousand jobs are going to greatly impact families in that area. Maybe I am in a position to see outsourcing more. I train kids to get jobs in robotics, programming and such that are often used to automate factories, but not everyone is suited to learn to do those sorts of jobs. There have to be some "ditch-digging" jobs available in this country as well as in Mexico, China or wherever. I suppose that is why everytime I see a factory moved out of the country I just get sick.
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I suppose, based on this, you would love movements in other countries to not buy American products? Or should they buy American products as well? Why should others not do unto you what you do unto them? Why are you so egocentric? You are the ultimate example of a primitive thinker.
 
I have decided to go specifically out of my way to not buy American, due to your post, Leaningright. If there are two products, one Japanese, one American, and the Japanese product is shittier and costs more, I will buy the Japanese product. This is only justice, retaliation for traitors like you who are disloyal to your fellow human beings. The fact that people as treasonous as you exist is disgusting. Why should I be disloyal to non-Mississippians? The south has always been an embarrassment to the United States and humanity in general, full of ignorant, stupid oafs, primitive thinkers like you who are incapable of single logical thought, haters of knowledge and light, self-righteous pieces of shit who are the most immoral peoples to have ever existed in human history. And why should I be irrationally disloyal to non-Americans? Indeed, there is a great deal of reason to be less loyal to Americans than I am to others, because Americans are stupid, aggressive bullies who take pride in needlessly killing others to sate their sadistic pleasure, thoughtlessly repressing the third world to serve their own interests, taking pride in their deliberate lack of knowledge, and giving the produce of the productive classes to a parasitic upperclass. No, if an American has no job, he deserves it. All unemployed Americans deserve their suffering. I am disappointed that the unemployment rate isn't higher. No, my fellow human beings abroad are much more deserving of my money than these pieces of shit I had the misfortune of being born around. who don't even deserve to be called human. I will seek to further the employment of those who deserve it, and Americans don't deserve to be employed.
 
Return of Dune said:
Ryobi is crap. Mikita has some good tools. For metalworking you want Metabo or Fein. Dewalt sucks too. Milwaulkee tools last well and are a good value but Metabo outlasts Milwaukee 3 or 4 to one and only costs twice as much. For air, Dynabrade is king. For welders go red, fuck blue, homeowner garbage. Going high tech, go Thermal Dynamics.

My CNC is a Bridgeport Series II but I have heard good things about Haas.
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red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red. That is all the times I wanted to say red. Oh plus, what do you cut with your ryobi, cardbord? Must have a sharp blade or something.

Must be mod priveledge, I couldn't quote you.
 
Emperor Nero said:
I have decided to go specifically out of my way to not buy American, due to your post, Leaningright. If there are two products, one Japanese, one American, and the Japanese product is shittier and costs more, I will buy the Japanese product. This is only justice, retaliation for traitors like you who are disloyal to your fellow human beings. The fact that people as treasonous as you exist is disgusting. Why should I be disloyal to non-Mississippians? The south has always been an embarrassment to the United States and humanity in general, full of ignorant, stupid oafs, primitive thinkers like you who are incapable of single logical thought, haters of knowledge and light, self-righteous pieces of shit who are the most immoral peoples to have ever existed in human history. And why should I be irrationally disloyal to non-Americans? Indeed, there is a great deal of reason to be less loyal to Americans than I am to others, because Americans are stupid, aggressive bullies who take pride in needlessly killing others to sate their sadistic pleasure, thoughtlessly repressing the third world to serve their own interests, taking pride in their deliberate lack of knowledge, and giving the produce of the productive classes to a parasitic upperclass. No, if an American has no job, he deserves it. All unemployed Americans deserve their suffering. I am disappointed that the unemployment rate isn't higher. No, my fellow human beings abroad are much more deserving of my money than these pieces of shit I had the misfortune of being born around. who don't even deserve to be called human. I will seek to further the employment of those who deserve it, and Americans don't deserve to be employed.
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LMAO Okay Water! Excellent stuff.
 
Emperor Septimius Severus said:
Mikitas don't feel as well built to me. Nor do they have a battery sawzall. Ryobi does, and has served me well for a long time. As for welders, you can say go red all you want, but Miller makes the best TIG machines on the market.
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Themal Arc makes Miller seem like it is powered by a wound up rubber band. Better and cheaper.

Especialy those syncrowave toilets.
 
DamnYankee said:
Yeah I really hate when people earn money Moot. :rolleyes:

But of course, you are wrong, as the average auto worker here make just as much as the union auto workers in the north. But what must burn you is that the really good ones can negotiate to make even more. :D
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and if it wasn't for the Union workers up here they'd be making $10 bucks an hour like they did in the textile mills before they all closed down and moved to China where they could pay $0.25/hour and you completely ignored the fact that there are about 10 times as many auto workers up here then there are in the south. Not to mention who you good ole boys down there call "The really good ones" are your pals and family members who don't know shit while no one else get's to negotiate at all cause you good ole boys think only you should have that right cause you're better then everyone else when what you really are, are a bunch of corrupt punk. Which is why you can't compete with us up here and is why "Made in the South" is right up there with "Made in Pakistan" LOL
 
sedan said:
I have never understood those who (on the one hand) champion the rights to assemble and associate and negotiate if these rights are exercised separately, but who (on the other hand) excoriate those who exercise these same rights simultaneously -- that is, when citizens bargain collectively with their employers.
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Exactly. Keep in mind that by "the really good ones" he means "Us good ole boys". You'll never be "A really good one" cause you aint one of them. By their lights how skillful and productive you are matters not at all. Why in DY's eye a master tool maker is worth just as much as a janitor.
 
Emperor Nero said:
Bullshit.

Why do you oppose interfering in the economy to demand fair regulation of corporations, but suddenly support government interference in the economy to artificially depress the value of human labor? Doesn't the market know best? Now, of course I think it doesn't. But your not being consistent in your beliefs.
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LOL BURN!!!!
 
The Dude said:
and had you actually gone to Ohio slow instead of Cinncinatti community college you wouldn't be 40 and a spelling nazi. Put down the ruler sister.
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Cincinnati Community College! Thems fightin words! LOL

Shoot son....I wouldn't get to cocky....LSU is essentially an Ohio school. It took a Buckeye to come down there and get the damned thing started cause ya'll couldn't do it yourselves! LOL
 
got the MBA from Loyola a fine Jesuit instituition that is not a football factory.
they didn't have a spelling class
 
Return of Dune said:
red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red red. That is all the times I wanted to say red. Oh plus, what do you cut with your ryobi, cardbord? Must have a sharp blade or something.

Must be mod priveledge, I couldn't quote you.
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Figures you would like Red you commie bastard ;)
 
Mott the Hoople said:
and if it wasn't for the Union workers up here they'd be making $10 bucks an hour like they did in the textile mills before they all closed down and moved to China where they could pay $0.25/hour and you completely ignored the fact that there are about 10 times as many auto workers up here then there are in the south. Not to mention who you good ole boys down there call "The really good ones" are your pals and family members who don't know shit while no one else get's to negotiate at all cause you good ole boys think only you should have that right cause you're better then everyone else when what you really are, are a bunch of corrupt punk. Which is why you can't compete with us up here and is why "Made in the South" is right up there with "Made in Pakistan" LOL
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LOL... which is why businesses are leaving the rust belt and moving south? They can't compete?

You do realize that someone making $80k in Detroit is about the same standard of living as someone making $68k in Birmingham? Hmmm... I wonder which I would choose if I were a business and could get the same quality of production.
 
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