Catholic Church protects pedophile priests but...

OK....so I go back and read the thread after you pose this question. So yes, according to DY's definition my wife & I might just be deviants. ;)

I applaud you adherence to your own standards and those of your faith. Its admireable.
 
You, of course, as usual, make no sense. If the church worked within the confines of contemporary society, they would have changed their stance on abortion and gay rights.
There's no logic to your line of thinking. One one side we have a monetary issue. The Church used to provide a court system, water systems, standardized systems of trade, community planning, and military security. Since the government has taken over those responsibilities, it no longer makes sense to tithe a full 10%. And they have done so for 100% of the population, and "tithe" our money, enforcing taxation through threat of incarceration.

On your side of the argument you have the relatively recent whims of a portion of the population.
 
There's no logic to your line of thinking. One one side we have a monetary issue. The Church used to provide a court system, water systems, standardized systems of trade, community planning, and military security. Since the government has taken over those responsibilities, it no longer makes sense to tithe a full 10%. And they have done so for 100% of the population, and "tithe" our money, enforcing taxation through threat of incarceration.

On your side of the argument you have the relatively recent whims of a portion of the population.


Are you insane? Who decided this? You? How do you think churches provide for their upkeep, utilities, mission outreach, salaries, etc????? The diocese? The Vatican? Where do you suppose the money comes from, you idiot? You get a wild hair up your ass and decide it's all a form of taxation, and decide not to pay it??????????
It's about sacrifice, symbolic of Christ's crucifixion on the cross for your sins...and in your selfishness, you can't even part with 10 % of your income, as a praise offering to God.
Well, it's a cinch how God is going to view that. You're always claiming to know the mind of God. I can vouch for this one....you're going to Hell, in a gasoline handbasket.
A camel has a better chance of going through the eye of a needle, than a rich man entering the kingdom of heaven. Didn't you ever hear that one? And you call yourself a Christian. You can toss around scripture, but deny Christ' instructions. Fool.
 
You, of course, as usual, make no sense. If the church worked within the confines of contemporary society, they would have changed their stance on abortion and gay rights.

There is no such thing as gay rights in Christianity, Mr. Christian.
 
This message is hidden because Alias is on your ignore list. And you and DY can think that means you have won to your heart's content. You've won the right to be ignored.
 
Are you insane? Who decided this? You? How do you think churches provide for their upkeep, utilities, mission outreach, salaries, etc?...
Contributions from the parishioners, of course. Our Diocese has a budgetary mandate from the Vatican, and in turn gives our Pastor a required contribution mandate. The Vatican, of course has an extensive list of global charitable programs. The Diocese provides troubled women's' services, retirement benefits for the Priests, and a slew of other regional programs. If this isn't met by weekly offerings, the Pastor will notify us that we need to contribute more. Never are dollar amounts or tithes mentioned.

The Church also sponsors Food for the Poor which is funded by separate individual contributions.

Major capital improvements are a different matter. For those we determine an overall budget, and announce that along with the number of families in the parish. Again though, no specific dollar amount is suggested. But folks can do the math and determine where they are wealth-wise in relation to other folks. We then ask, but do not require, a specific pledge amount from each family, and then invoice them for that amount over a 36 month period. We don't put a shovel in the ground until we have 70% of the total in the bank. That way financing costs are minimized, and can usually be done at no cost through the Diocese budget. This system works well, and most folks advance payments or give extra. In my local church we met the 70% threshold in 9 months and obtained 100% before construction was completed, therefore incurred no finance costs. In another church that we attend occasionally they obtained 100% with 3 months.
 
Contributions from the parishioners, of course. Our Diocese has a budgetary mandate from the Vatican, and in turn gives our Pastor a required contribution mandate. The Vatican, of course has an extensive list of global charitable programs. The Diocese provides troubled women's' services, retirement benefits for the Priests, and a slew of other regional programs. If this isn't met by weekly offerings, the Pastor will notify us that we need to contribute more. Never are dollar amounts or tithes mentioned.

The Church also sponsors Food for the Poor which is funded by separate individual contributions.

Major capital improvements are a different matter. For those we determine an overall budget, and announce that along with the number of families in the parish. Again though, no specific dollar amount is suggested. But folks can do the math and determine where they are wealth-wise in relation to other folks. We then ask, but do not require, a specific pledge amount from each family, and then invoice them for that amount over a 36 month period. We don't put a shovel in the ground until we have 70% of the total in the bank. That way financing costs are minimized, and can usually be done at no cost through the Diocese budget. This system works well, and most folks advance payments or give extra. In my local church we met the 70% threshold in 9 months and obtained 100% before construction was completed, therefore incurred no finance costs. In another church that we attend occasionally they obtained 100% with 3 months.

Yet, the church attempts to cover up the sexual crimes of its' clergy, and pay out huge class action settlements. So, one could conclude that you wouldn't be asked to pay more, if funds were not having to be diverted to pay for victims' compensation. Ducky. The Roman Catholic Church is full of shit and hypocrisy.
 
Yet, the church attempts to cover up the sexual crimes of its' clergy, and pay out huge class action settlements. So, one could conclude that you wouldn't be asked to pay more, if funds were not having to be diverted to pay for victims' compensation. Ducky. The Roman Catholic Church is full of shit and hypocrisy.

All which has nothing to do with the issue of tithing. Since you failed to address the issue and instead attempt to divert the argument, you lose this debate. Score a bonus point for me as well since earlier you tried to link tithing with homosexuality and sodomy and that fell flat on its face. :D
 
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