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You really shouldn't attempt to use facts with Yurt. It sends the poor kid into emo fits.
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You really shouldn't attempt to use facts with Yurt. It sends the poor kid into emo fits.
christiefan915
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It wasn't simply a personal trip.
Third, to say that the trip "was as much an opportunity for the Obama family and friends to go on a safari as it was a trip intended to advance the administration's agenda in Africa" is absurd. The six-day trip was dominated by official events and meetings with world leaders. Mrs. Obama met with the South African president's wife, Nompumelelo Ntuli-Zuma; spoke to the Young African Women Leaders Forum; participated in community service events in Johannesburg; visited U.S. embassies and consulates; spoke at the University of Cape Town and met with students from poor communities; held a meeting with Archbishop Desmond Tutu; met with Botswanan president Ian Khama; and gave interviews to several news outlets, including NBC, ABC, BET, and CNN.
Lastly, Judicial Watch doesn't really explain how a meeting with Nelson Mandela, the former South African president and icon of the global struggle for racial equality, constitutes "tourism." Also, the other events Judicial Watch considers "tourism" -- visits to museums and historical landmarks -- are standard fare for visiting dignitaries. Laura Bush, during the same Africa trip noted above, toured museums and memorials dedicated to victims of apartheid and genocide.
So there's not a whole lot to undergird Judicial Watch's outrage, though that was never the point. Hatchet-jobs like these are less about good government than they are taking pot-shots at the administration. The First Lady's Africa trip was nothing out of the ordinary, but when you cherry-pick a few numbers and gin up the requisite amount of faux-righteous anger, you can turn almost anything into a damaging meme.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201110040023
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you posted info for the 747....that is not the plane they rode on
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truly great contribution to the discussion. i did look, i couldn't find it anything. hence, why i am discussing it on a political board. i had no idea how sensitive you guys are when someone questions dear leader.
Hey, as I said - this is right up there with the Target photo & Hank Williams. I've been seething all day on this one...
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perhaps i should have used MORE CAPS and more ??????????????????????
then your delicate sensibilities wouldn't have been so offended.
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did i say this was a big deal? you're the one making a huge stink over it. if you can't handle discussing matters about the executive branch, perhaps you should go to a different forum.
Nah; I'm goofing on it. You're the one going to the mat about manifests & designations & such...
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i had no idea seeking information about a topic was "going to the mat"....
then again, you're a bury your head in the sand kind of guy so you wouldn't understand
brazenhussy
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Has Onceler denounced and renounced this heinous act yet? Maybe then Damo can lock the thread and put us all out of our misery?
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funny how onceler again runs away when confronted with the reality he was wrong.....
I'm going to hold off. I'd like to keep this one going for awhile. I'm still awaiting the triumphant return of bravo...
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the only heinous act is your attempt at humor
brazenhussy
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LOL
christiefan915
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<sigh> Keep picking that nit. The RNC is counting on you.
"Based on the plane’s tail number and a description of it in a press pool report, it’s clear Mrs. Obama flew over and back on a C-32, a specially configured military version of the Boeing 757 that also ferries the vice president on occasion and is sometimes known as “Air Force Two.”
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/06/27/michelles-south-africa-trip-cost-taxpayers-500000/
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The Almighty
See Christie, the above is what happens.... and that is just the early stages of his full on spaz attacks.
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lmao...so when you use used all those caps and question marks, you were in fact spazzing
good one
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good lord, how can you be this dense? did you not notice i said 747, not 757?
here the diagram of the plane you gave earlier:
^ that is NOT the same plane, that is a 747, not a 757.
how many more times do i need to explain this to you? or are you just going to dig your heels in so you don't have to admit you're wrong?
further, using YOUR example, guests should not have been seated with staff, yet they were.
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still running?
christiefan915
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good lord, how can you be this dense? did you not notice i said 747, not 757?
here the diagram of the plane you gave earlier:
^ that is NOT the same plane, that is a 747, not a 757.
how many more times do i need to explain this to you? or are you just going to dig your heels in so you don't have to admit you're wrong?
further, using YOUR example, guests should not have been seated with staff, yet they were.
What makes you think the same seating parameters wouldn't apply, no matter what the plane? They're seated according to importance and that's the bottom line. I guess you forgot Gingrich's hissy fit back in the 90s because his seat on AFO was back with the hoi polloi rather than in the front like a senior staffer.
You can dig in your heels like a mule and argue until hell freezes over, but the only people you're going to persuade that the Obama kids are "senior staffers" are the ideological hacks like yourself.