So Why The Double Standard?

[christiefan915]

Exactly.... I was born into the Cosby Show. Far from a hell hole. But don't mind him...he's stuck. And don't know it.

We know willful ignorance when we see it.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

And you're quite sick. I have too many whites that revere me as a person and I them for me to ever view them as a part of some dark network or deserving of what blacks and others endured. I'm not you. Nothing like you. Until you get that...this conversation is academic. My vitriol is aimed at individuals, and not due to their race, but their philosophy.
Contrary to popular belief, whites are not monolithic in thought as blacks are not. Your reality is your own.

No, you are vitriolic toward white people who haven't relinquished power and privilege to you, and you're at the boiling point and won't compromise until they do, because there is no moving forward as a society until they do, because white privilege is ingrained in our society. That's what you said earlier, anyway. Are you now backing off that comment, since you've been challenged?

You are right about one thing, you certainly are nothing like me. I believe that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator, and that we should judge men by the content of their character and not the color of their skin... you believe white privilege is hopelessly ingrained in society and people with white skin should relinquish power to black-skinned people to make things okay. I believe in Dr. King's dream, and you think Dr. King was a fool, dreaming an impossible dream... so you are absolutely right, I am nothing like you!

 

[poet]

No, you are vitriolic toward white people who haven't relinquished power and privilege to you, and you're at the boiling point and won't compromise until they do, because there is no moving forward as a society until they do, because white privilege is ingrained in our society. That's what you said earlier, anyway. Are you now backing off that comment, since you've been challenged?

You are right about one thing, you certainly are nothing like me. I believe that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator, and that we should judge men by the content of their character and not the color of their skin... you believe white privilege is hopelessly ingrained in society and people with white skin should relinquish power to black-skinned people to make things okay. I believe in Dr. King's dream, and you think Dr. King was a fool, dreaming an impossible dream... so you are absolutely right, I am nothing like you!

And you're a stupid bitch. I don't need power and privilege. I've managed to get through life, despite white folks getting in my way ( and I don't mean all white folks...because some are "normal"). "Boiling point"? You don't know me...stop pretending that you do. And you think too highly of yourself...you're no challenge.
And you can "front" and preach all that crap to the board, but I know you by your previous rhetoric. You're not worthy to invoke Dr. King's name, with the rhetoric you have posted. Get over yourself.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

And you're a stupid bitch. I don't need power and privilege. I've managed to get through life, despite white folks getting in my way ( and I don't mean all white folks...because some are "normal"). "Boiling point"? You don't know me...stop pretending that you do. And you think too highly of yourself...you're no challenge.
And you can "front" and preach all that crap to the board, but I know you by your previous rhetoric. You're not worthy to invoke Dr. King's name, with the rhetoric you have posted. Get over yourself.

Not at all. Unless you are willing to admit that you are "wrong-headed", and have taken advantage of a situation, we can never move forward, as a society, with you refusing to relinquish power, position and privilege, at all cost.
And it's not fear I'm ingrained with...it's the breaking point, I'm no longer willing to compromise on. The ball has always been in your court...dribble, take the shot, or capitulate the game. But do something.

I'm sorry, it was the "breaking point" you're at, not the "boiling point" ....I know there is a world of a difference in the two, I just wanted to set the record straight.

If you have managed to get through life without power and privilege, why can't other people who are black? You claimed that white people have to relinquish power and privilege, so that black people can obtain it, I would assume, but you say you don't need it... so why is this a big deal?

As for what you imagine I have said in the past, let's stick to what I am saying right here and now, okay?

 

[poet]

I'm sorry, it was the "breaking point" you're at, not the "boiling point" ....I know there is a world of a difference in the two, I just wanted to set the record straight.

If you have managed to get through life without power and privilege, why can't other people who are black? You claimed that white people have to relinquish power and privilege, so that black people can obtain it, I would assume, but you say you don't need it... so why is this a big deal?

As for what you imagine I have said in the past, let's stick to what I am saying right here and now, okay?

You're mentally disturbed. You're fixated on relinquishing privilege and power...and totally missed the point. I'm through indulging and engaging you. Move around.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You're mentally disturbed. You're fixated on relinquishing privilege and power...and totally missed the point. I'm through indulging and engaging you. Move around.

LOL... I just took what you said and asked you specific questions about it. What's wrong, didn't think it through well enough or something?

I'm fixated on the idea you have, that things would be alright in society, if white people would voluntarily relinquish positions of power, and (I presume) black people would assume these roles. It's a fascinating concept, not unlike ideas attempted in the past, whenever a certain race of people become problematic. Although, in the past, every time an authority strips an entire group of all power, those people don't tend to fare very well. So, I am a bit concerned by this, but you assure me that white people ceding all power and influence to black people, would be enough for you, that you could overcome your bigotry and prejudice toward white people, if they would just do that.

 

[poet]

LOL... I just took what you said and asked you specific questions about it. What's wrong, didn't think it through well enough or something?

I'm fixated on the idea you have, that things would be alright in society, if white people would voluntarily relinquish positions of power, and (I presume) black people would assume these roles. It's a fascinating concept, not unlike ideas attempted in the past, whenever a certain race of people become problematic. Although, in the past, every time an authority strips an entire group of all power, those people don't tend to fare very well. So, I am a bit concerned by this, but you assure me that white people ceding all power and influence to black people, would be enough for you, that you could overcome your bigotry and prejudice toward white people, if they would just do that.

Not at all what I said, or meant. But carry on.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Please. Employ your white privilege ( you know...the notion that you're omniscient) , and tell us, since what you have said has to be true, because you said it.

I don't have all the answers but at least I'm able to ask some of the questions. I am stating things the way I see it from a vantage point of 3000+ miles away and
with an ocean in between.

Just to give you some perspective, here is a good friend of mine Richard Swaby who I've known for over 25 years, he works in Dublin at the moment and has taking up the local culture with a vengeance.

 

[brazenhussy]

I prefer to think of it as avoiding an awkward question, so I will ask it again in a slightly different manner? Why do you think that Black Americans have not succeeded in the same way that many other ethnic communities have done? It seems to me that many Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Polish, Italians, Indians and Pakistanis have transcended the inherent racism in the US even though they arrived well after the African diaspora.

It's a complicated question, not a "gotcha!" as the righties like to claim. You could as well ask why Native Americans have the highest poverty rates of all groups in our country, including African-Americans. THey did up until five years ago anyway, when I read several books on American poverty. That was before the great recession, or as I like to more realistically call it, the depression. I don't have 2011 figures.

However, that's irrelevant. What's important is, obviously, historically oppressed groups in this country do not do well. It's the native american who was the victim of a genocide and dismantling of their culture in this country. Not a Korean. It's the African-American who was held in brutal slavery for generations in this country. Not an Italian.

I'm sure it's mixture of structural, situational, and generational poverty, along with other factors. It's a subject that academics write book after book on, all steeped in historical fact and juxtaposed with current statistics. In some ways, it is uniquely American, and yet, I'm sure other parts of the world have poverty that is highly relegated to one or more groups. THe circumstances may look different, but I'll bet there are as many similarities as differences. That would be more fascinating reading.

Yet you seem to be? demanding that he answer your question on a message board, and acting as if you have a "Gotcha!" You don't. It's a fascinating and important subject. Yuu can read many fascinating and important non-fiction books put out by academic presses about this. If you are so interested, you should definitely do so but you will also find that even there, no consensus exists.

This question will not be answered on this board. But to even posit that this means there is not institutional racism in this country that is directly oppressing and harming African Americans would be wrong, and clearly wrong to anyone who isn't a racist. To any American who isn't a racist. What honest people from other countries might surmise or wonder about is not something I can speak to or judge.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Not at all what I said, or meant. But carry on.

We just went over this, it's exactly what you said, and you have not explained what you meant.

I think we should get to the bottom of your prejudice and hate for rich white people. That seems to be your biggest problem, and if you could overcome it, maybe your whole outlook on life would change? Do you think you hold these animosities toward rich white people because you presume their wealth may have come from exploitation of blacks in some way? If so, how can you be sure that merely stripping white people of their wealth and power, will satisfy your beef with them? I mean, look around at some of the brothers, they look like they're doing pretty well, with the 26" rims and sick rides, bling dripping off, dressed to the nines... doesn't look like 'white privilege' prevented them from achieving what they wanted in America, does it? So we can observe society, and see that black people have done very well for themselves, in spite of their skin color or your false perception that white people control everything. Oprah Winfrey is one of the richest people in America... a black woman... grew up in poverty. I could name hundreds of examples, but you know who they are... and the point is, they all somehow managed to acquire wealth, status, privilege, power... and be black at the same time! How can that be possible in a world where white privilege is ingrained in society?

So now, if the exclusive on status and privilege is not really the issue you have against rich white people, it has to be something else. This is why I doubt you would be satisfied by all white people relinquishing their wealth and status to black people, as that's not really the problem here. The problem is, white people remind you that black people were once enslaved, and the only thing that will remedy that, is to rid the world of white people. But you can't really just come right out and say that, because it's so bombastic, even you realize it. Not really knowing how to mask your true feelings, you jumped to this idiotic idea of white people relinquishing all power and status to black people... you understand that is an impossibility and will never happen, but that's why it makes the perfect "fake cause" to camouflage your true sentiments. Only problem is, I came along and shot your story full of holes, and so now you want to pretend you no longer have time to discuss this further with me.

That's fine.

Mission Accomplished!

 

[brazenhussy]

"I mean, look around at some of the brothers, they look like they're doing pretty well, with the 26" rims and sick rides, bling dripping off, dressed to the nines"

Look at this shit. And people give poet shit, and I don't understand all of why, I only have some gut feelings. He makes them uncomfortable because a lot of american whites enjoy believing they are somehow the victim of things like AA. It's blackie keeping me down! I woulda had that job if it wasn't for blackie and his quotas! I woulda been somebody! I woulda been a contender! And then some of them are just stone-cold racists who like screwing with black people.

But no one says anything about it. They just continue to pile on the black guy as they righteously look for reasons why he's a "racist".

All I can really say is; ewww.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Why on Earth would I accuse someone of being racist, that didn't exhibit the rhetoric, the mindset, or support the ideology? .

excellent question......your propensity for doing exactly that has always puzzled us........

 

[Guns Guns Guns]

Displaying a Confederate flag in your avatar isn't racist?

 

[poet]

It's a complicated question, not a "gotcha!" as the righties like to claim. You could as well ask why Native Americans have the highest poverty rates of all groups in our country, including African-Americans. THey did up until five years ago anyway, when I read several books on American poverty. That was before the great recession, or as I like to more realistically call it, the depression. I don't have 2011 figures.

However, that's irrelevant. What's important is, obviously, historically oppressed groups in this country do not do well. It's the native american who was the victim of a genocide and dismantling of their culture in this country. Not a Korean. It's the African-American who was held in brutal slavery for generations in this country. Not an Italian.

I'm sure it's mixture of structural, situational, and generational poverty, along with other factors. It's a subject that academics write book after book on, all steeped in historical fact and juxtaposed with current statistics. In some ways, it is uniquely American, and yet, I'm sure other parts of the world have poverty that is highly relegated to one or more groups. THe circumstances may look different, but I'll bet there are as many similarities as differences. That would be more fascinating reading.

Yet you seem to be? demanding that he answer your question on a message board, and acting as if you have a "Gotcha!" You don't. It's a fascinating and important subject. Yuu can read many fascinating and important non-fiction books put out by academic presses about this. If you are so interested, you should definitely do so but you will also find that even there, no consensus exists.

This question will not be answered on this board. But to even posit that this means there is not institutional racism in this country that is directly oppressing and harming African Americans would be wrong, and clearly wrong to anyone who isn't a racist. To any American who isn't a racist. What honest people from other countries might surmise or wonder about is not something I can speak to or judge.

Breathtakingly eloquent.

 

[poet]

We just went over this, it's exactly what you said, and you have not explained what you meant.

I think we should get to the bottom of your prejudice and hate for rich white people. That seems to be your biggest problem, and if you could overcome it, maybe your whole outlook on life would change? Do you think you hold these animosities toward rich white people because you presume their wealth may have come from exploitation of blacks in some way? If so, how can you be sure that merely stripping white people of their wealth and power, will satisfy your beef with them? I mean, look around at some of the brothers, they look like they're doing pretty well, with the 26" rims and sick rides, bling dripping off, dressed to the nines... doesn't look like 'white privilege' prevented them from achieving what they wanted in America, does it? So we can observe society, and see that black people have done very well for themselves, in spite of their skin color or your false perception that white people control everything. Oprah Winfrey is one of the richest people in America... a black woman... grew up in poverty. I could name hundreds of examples, but you know who they are... and the point is, they all somehow managed to acquire wealth, status, privilege, power... and be black at the same time! How can that be possible in a world where white privilege is ingrained in society?

So now, if the exclusive on status and privilege is not really the issue you have against rich white people, it has to be something else. This is why I doubt you would be satisfied by all white people relinquishing their wealth and status to black people, as that's not really the problem here. The problem is, white people remind you that black people were once enslaved, and the only thing that will remedy that, is to rid the world of white people. But you can't really just come right out and say that, because it's so bombastic, even you realize it. Not really knowing how to mask your true feelings, you jumped to this idiotic idea of white people relinquishing all power and status to black people... you understand that is an impossibility and will never happen, but that's why it makes the perfect "fake cause" to camouflage your true sentiments. Only problem is, I came along and shot your story full of holes, and so now you want to pretend you no longer have time to discuss this further with me.

That's fine.

Mission Accomplished!

OMG. You think? Seems your "white privilege" concerning "need to know" has kicked into "high gear". My hatred for rich white people. Hmmm. I'm trying to place it. Bill Gates. Not feeling it. Steve Jobs. Not feeling it. Mark Zuckerberg. Not feeling it. Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, Jeffrey Katzenberg. Not feeling it (well, technically they're Jewish, and not white...but for all practical purposes...) Madonna. Not feeling it. The Koch Brothers. Well, now...you might be on to something, as they obviously got their money by "hook or crook", and are hell bent on using it to control election outcomes, agendas which favor white conservatives, and have no problems doing business with rogue nations like Iran.
Yeah, I kinda hate them. Mainly for their despicable behavior and actions, as opposed to their race.
And I'm not necessarily into "stripping whites of power" as I am into "power sharing", which by the way, you seemingly overlooked as my course of action. Typical.
Brothers? With tricked out "rides"? Oh, you mean like P. Diddy and Jay-Z? Both who were former (or perhaps "current") gangsters, much like New York mafioso. They've gone legit (for all practical purposes)...but I wouldn't bank on their characters...once a snake, always a snake, I always say. How many whites fit that bill? We don't have that much time to go into it, do we? Money is the equalizer, isn't it. When you have it, it tends to draw more money to it. You're able to circumvent the normal circles and even use it to buy influence and power....sometimes even criminally so. And make no mistake.....white people do control everything...banks, Wall St., government, law enforcement, the Justice system, financing, Hollywood, mineral and oil rights, media, and public opinion, which is the essence of power and control. Ain't nobody stupid, save you.

For insight into "white privilege", I offer up the following:

And darling, as I said before...I don't have a problem with white people, per se. I don't wish to rid the world of them (as if). I believe in "live and let live" and have said so, many times. Most of the white people that I know, feel a sense of guilt and remorse for what black people endured , and there is an unspoken aire of humility and compassion which exists between them and black people, palpable and real...which reinforces feelings of forgiveness and good will. But of course, you're not "most white people", as others here are not. So the onus wouldn't be on me, to express feelings I don't feel...or for you to speculate on your own "twisted" fantasies of what you believe of me.
But look how defensive you've become at the mere mention of sharing power....which speaks to the notion that you have no intention of ever giving it up. Time has a way of working things out. For the greater good. Forces are at play which are greater than your ability to hold on to power and influence. The presidency of Barack Obama should give you a clue, of the future of things to come. Hate the message, not the messenger.

 

[cancel2 2022]

It's a complicated question, not a "gotcha!" as the righties like to claim. You could as well ask why Native Americans have the highest poverty rates of all groups in our country, including African-Americans. THey did up until five years ago anyway, when I read several books on American poverty. That was before the great recession, or as I like to more realistically call it, the depression. I don't have 2011 figures.

However, that's irrelevant. What's important is, obviously, historically oppressed groups in this country do not do well. It's the native american who was the victim of a genocide and dismantling of their culture in this country. Not a Korean. It's the African-American who was held in brutal slavery for generations in this country. Not an Italian.

I'm sure it's mixture of structural, situational, and generational poverty, along with other factors. It's a subject that academics write book after book on, all steeped in historical fact and juxtaposed with current statistics. In some ways, it is uniquely American, and yet, I'm sure other parts of the world have poverty that is highly relegated to one or more groups. THe circumstances may look different, but I'll bet there are as many similarities as differences. That would be more fascinating reading.

Yet you seem to be? demanding that he answer your question on a message board, and acting as if you have a "Gotcha!" You don't. It's a fascinating and important subject. Yuu can read many fascinating and important non-fiction books put out by academic presses about this. If you are so interested, you should definitely do so but you will also find that even there, no consensus exists.

This question will not be answered on this board. But to even posit that this means there is not institutional racism in this country that is directly oppressing and harming African Americans would be wrong, and clearly wrong to anyone who isn't a racist. To any American who isn't a racist. What honest people from other countries might surmise or wonder about is not something I can speak to or judge.

I refer you to post #130, i believe much of the article applies equally well to the US.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

OMG. You think? Seems your "white privilege" concerning "need to know" has kicked into "high gear". My hatred for rich white people. Hmmm. I'm trying to place it. Bill Gates. Not feeling it. Steve Jobs. Not feeling it. Mark Zuckerberg. Not feeling it. Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, Jeffrey Katzenberg. Not feeling it (well, technically they're Jewish, and not white...but for all practical purposes...) Madonna. Not feeling it. The Koch Brothers. Well, now...you might be on to something, as they obviously got their money by "hook or crook", and are hell bent on using it to control election outcomes, agendas which favor white conservatives, and have no problems doing business with rogue nations like Iran.
Yeah, I kinda hate them. Mainly for their despicable behavior and actions, as opposed to their race.

But if they were black, you could find a way to get over it.

And I'm not necessarily into "stripping whites of power" as I am into "power sharing", which by the way, you seemingly overlooked as my course of action.Typical.

Oh, but I didn't overlook what you said, I responded to it. You said society could never move forward until white people relinquished power. I've pointed out twice, that our Constitution and laws give every American the same rights, there is no exception made for color of skin. I even gave examples of black people who haven't had a problem becoming successful, wealthy, and powerful, in spite of their blackness.

Brothers? With tricked out "rides"? Oh, you mean like P. Diddy and Jay-Z? Both who were former (or perhaps "current") gangsters, much like New York mafioso.

No, I mean like go to any city in America on a Friday or Saturday night and drive around... you'll see all kinds of black people who appear to be doing very well. Are you trying to tell me these brothers in tricked out rides are all criminals and crooks? As many as I see on a daily basis, perhaps we should be dealing with THAT problem, instead of "white privilege" which you haven't proven exists.

They've gone legit (for all practical purposes)...but I wouldn't bank on their characters...once a snake, always a snake, I always say. How many whites fit that bill? We don't have that much time to go into it, do we? Money is the equalizer, isn't it. When you have it, it tends to draw more money to it. You're able to circumvent the normal circles and even use it to buy influence and power....sometimes even criminally so. And make no mistake.....white people do control everything...banks, Wall St., government, law enforcement, the Justice system, financing, Hollywood, mineral and oil rights, media, and public opinion, which is the essence of power and control. Ain't nobody stupid, save you.

So basically, the successful black people we see out there, are all gangsters and criminals? That's the only way they can be successful, since white people control all the power, right? So....do white people control the black men who work on Wall Street? Because, the last time I saw a clip of the traders on the floor, I know I saw some black faces among the traders... they must be the slaves of some rich crooked white person, huh? Sent against their will to do the white man's bidding... shameful! And Obama being a black man winning the presidency, doesn't count for blacks in politics, nor does Clarence Thomas count for blacks in the justice system.. they are "tokens" right? Will Smith, Chris Rock, James Earl Jones, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Jamie Foxx, Red Foxx, Halle Berry, Whoopi Goldberg (wait, maybe she's a jew?) ....These award winning actors and actresses are mere figments of my imagination? White people dresses as black people? Crooks and Gangsters? What is your explanation for why these people are dismissed when you claim all power in Hollywood is controlled by whites?

For insight into "white privilege", I offer up the following:

Sorry, I am not going to watch your video. We are discussing a broad topic, and it can't be defined by a single individual.

And darling, as I said before...I don't have a problem with white people, per se.

Oh really? It sure sounds to me like you've got a burr in your saddle about white people. Have you read the thread?

I don't wish to rid the world of them (as if).

LOL...the ONLY reason you don't wish it, is because it's pointless to wish for the impossible. If someone gave you a switch and said, poet... you can eliminate all white people in the world with a flick of this switch, you'd do it in a heartbeat, because nothing would please you more than to have a world where whites did not exist... that is the only way to resolve your issues with the white race. As long as white people breathe the same air as you, there will be something to complain about and the world will be imperfect to you.

I believe in "live and let live" and have said so, many times. Most of the white people that I know, feel a sense of guilt and remorse for what black people endured , and there is an unspoken aire of humility and compassion which exists between them and black people, palpable and real...which reinforces feelings of forgiveness and good will.

And you believe in exploiting that for all it's worth, because white people owe you, right?

But of course, you're not "most white people", as others here are not.

No, I am very atypical... I am 1/16 black, 1/8 Asian and 1/8 Native American... so there's that.

So the onus wouldn't be on me, to express feelings I don't feel...or for you to speculate on your own "twisted" fantasies of what you believe of me.
But look how defensive you've become at the mere mention of sharing power....which speaks to the notion that you have no intention of ever giving it up. Time has a way of working things out. For the greater good. Forces are at play which are greater than your ability to hold on to power and influence. The presidency of Barack Obama should give you a clue, of the future of things to come. Hate the message, not the messenger.

Hey, I haven't said anything about not giving up power, I merely asked you some pertinent questions about the plan... I need to have some level of assurance that white people wouldn't be executed or made slaves, if they no longer held any power. I am also having a problem reconciling your plan of 'power redistribution' with our founding principles that we're ALL EQUAL! Shouldn't we ALL be able to obtain power, if we are ALL EQUAL? Your idea just calls for taking power from rich white people and giving it to black people...doesn't sound like EQUALITY to me.

The presidency of Barack Obama should have told you something, that black people can achieve and accomplish anything they want to in America, regardless of what color their skin is. If this "ingrained white privilege" were real, Obama would have never made it onto the Democrat ballot for nomination, much less, win the presidency. .....But then..... Obama IS half WHITE!

 

[poet]

But if they were black, you could find a way to get over it.
Color doesn't have anything to do with integrity or the lack thereof.



Oh, but I didn't overlook what you said, I responded to it. You said society could never move forward until white people relinquished power. I've pointed out twice, that our Constitution and laws give every American the same rights, there is no exception made for color of skin. I even gave examples of black people who haven't had a problem becoming successful, wealthy, and powerful, in spite of their blackness.

[B]And I keep correcting you as to "power sharing" instead of abdication of power.[/B]



No, I mean like go to any city in America on a Friday or Saturday night and drive around... you'll see all kinds of black people who appear to be doing very well. Are you trying to tell me these brothers in tricked out rides are all criminals and crooks? As many as I see on a daily basis, perhaps we should be dealing with THAT problem, instead of "white privilege" which you haven't proven exists.


No. That would be your stereotypical view. Not mine. And oh, please. Tim Wise has several videos out on the subject, and there are numerous articles addressing the issue. That it exists, is not in question.[/B]


So basically, the successful black people we see out there, are all gangsters and criminals? That's the only way they can be successful, since white people control all the power, right? So....do white people control the black men who work on Wall Street? Because, the last time I saw a clip of the traders on the floor, I know I saw some black faces among the traders... they must be the slaves of some rich crooked white person, huh? Sent against their will to do the white man's bidding... shameful! And Obama being a black man winning the presidency, doesn't count for blacks in politics, nor does Clarence Thomas count for blacks in the justice system.. they are "tokens" right? Will Smith, Chris Rock, James Earl Jones, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Jamie Foxx, Red Foxx, Halle Berry, Whoopi Goldberg (wait, maybe she's a jew?) ....These award winning actors and actresses are mere figments of my imagination? White people dresses as black people? Crooks and Gangsters? What is your explanation for why these people are dismissed when you claim all power in Hollywood is controlled by whites?


Uh, these are questions you should be answering, given that you're white. Anyone working for someone else is, obviously, "not in control". Moot point.
Uh, who do you think has the power and the clout to "green light" projects, movies, ventures, deals, mergers????????????? Black people? I know you're not that stupid or naive (although you're pretending to be). Only a few blacks (as compared to a whole bunch of whites and Jews) have the clout (money) to push projects through. The major movie studios are controlled and owned by whom? Financial institutions and media outlets are owned and run by whom? Stop being stupid and maudlin.

Sorry, I am not going to watch your video. We are discussing a broad topic, and it can't be defined by a single individual.

Whatever. Suit yourself. I don't watch any of yours.


Oh really? It sure sounds to me like you've got a burr in your saddle about white people. Have you read the thread?

No. Not really. I have quite a few friends here, who happen to be white, which you'd dismissed because they are liberals. Why don't you ask them about me, for a more accurate account?



LOL...the ONLY reason you don't wish it, is because it's pointless to wish for the impossible. If someone gave you a switch and said, poet... you can eliminate all white people in the world with a flick of this switch, you'd do it in a heartbeat, because nothing would please you more than to have a world where whites did not exist... that is the only way to resolve your issues with the white race. As long as white people breathe the same air as you, there will be something to complain about and the world will be imperfect to you.


How dare you assume or predict what I would do, in a given or hypothetical situation. Who the fuck are you? Nobody, but a racist, bigoted piece of crap, trying to work an agenda.
You don't know me...stop pretending that you do. My white friends and family and associates would laugh at your ridiculous claims and fantasies. Perhaps it's you 'projecting", as you'd love to see the world without any persons of color. Yeah, that's the ticket. It's clear now.


And you believe in exploiting that for all it's worth, because white people owe you, right?

Bitch...white people owe me nothing. As far as I'm concerned, you have nothing I want. Everything I have, I worked, long and hard for. What are you, jealous? Must be.


No, I am very atypical... I am 1/16 black, 1/8 Asian and 1/8 Native American... so there's that.


I doubt it.


Hey, I haven't said anything about not giving up power, I merely asked you some pertinent questions about the plan... I need to have some level of assurance that white people wouldn't be executed or made slaves, if they no longer held any power. I am also having a problem reconciling your plan of 'power redistribution' with our founding principles that we're ALL EQUAL! Shouldn't we ALL be able to obtain power, if we are ALL EQUAL? Your idea just calls for taking power from rich white people and giving it to black people...doesn't sound like EQUALITY to me.


Again, you're comparing us to you. There's that guilt factoring in, for past wrongdoings. If you were innocent, you wouldn't fear reprisal. You just self-incriminated yourself...because execution and enslavement is what you did. And now, that your legitimacy of power and authority are being called into question....now, all of a sudden we're "ALL EQUAL", and references are being made to "founding principles", when it didn't matter before, or in 1964, or in 2008, when Obama was being smeared as a candidate, and then seen as the potential winner in the contest between him and the lackluster John McCain. You sound like a prisoner, condemned to death, asking for mercy. Groveling, in fact. And of course taking power from whites and giving it to blacks doesn't sound like equality....neither does the reverse or the status quo. Thank you for making my case.[/B]


The presidency of Barack Obama should have told you something, that black people can achieve and accomplish anything they want to in America, regardless of what color their skin is. If this "ingrained white privilege" were real, Obama would have never made it onto the Democrat ballot for nomination, much less, win the presidency. .....But then..... Obama IS half WHITE!

Are you preaching to the choir? I know the hymn. Ironic that you want to claim Obama's presidency as proof of something...something you don't believe in, but are using as a shield to protect you from the coming onslaught. Like "Look, see...we help make one of yours President...we can be all that bad. Answer me this: Did you vote for him? Well, I already know the answer and that makes all of this a moot point. LOL.

Why do you bother? You're not a match for me.

 

[Alias]

America elected a black man President. Now if America doesn't re-elect him we are all racists.

Well that certainly makes sense. LOL.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

You know, when you point fingers, you have a big ol' thumb, pointing back at you. Funny, you were unable to elaborate or explain "how" I'm a racist. Why? Because it's not true.
No matter how many times you say it. The conservatives, of course, have a problem with me being intelligent, glib, black, and gay...and (wait for it)....Christian. It kinda flies in the face of their stereotypes : gays are effeminate, indiscriminate and never masculine....blacks are stupid, shiftless, and have their hands out....intelligent blacks are "uppity" and don't know their place. I'm here to upset that applecart. And that's what you and yours can't stand.
In your beef with me, you've alienated yourself from your white counterparts who profess to be lefties. Divide and conquer, I always say. Moron. The reason why Neanderthals went extinct, is because they couldn't adapt. Homo Sapiens (man with knowledge) succeeded where they failed. Why do you think I refer to your kind as Neanderthals? Because you are failing to adapt to an ever-changing world, where whites are in the minority, and forced to share power, space, and resources. Nothing can prevent the inevitable. One can only adapt. You're fighting it, tooth and nail. You're a Neanderthal. Neanderthals don't change....they go extinct. Hello? SmarterThanNoOne.

Your entire argument failed; because when you point fingers at someone, your thumb does not point back at you.
Ir really points at about a 45 degree angle, away from the person you're pointing the finger at.

Your attempts at generalizations really suck; but then, I digress.