Why is Rick Perry in the lead?

Talking to yourself, I see.

what are you? 13?
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once again you're dishonestly misrepresenting what i said. its gets old.

further, why is it you keep running from picking which is it: did he create it; or did he simply fail to stop it? those are two different concepts. additionally, you have yet to explain, how bush alone, created or failed to stop (depending on which side of the mouth you're talking from) the economic downturn. and again, it is absolutely the height of partisan bullshit to blame only bush. that you promote proves beyond any doubt that you're a hack.

Bush's inaction, on something you & Damo both agree he "knew" and "warned" about, definitely created the crisis.

Why are you so dedicated to protecting him? I really don't get it. He was Prez, steward of the economy, for 8 years - and had a GOP Congress for most of those years. Do you really see him as some sort of innocent bystander on the economy for those years? Someone with no control over domestic policy, or even influence?

How do you remember Carter? He gets pretty much universal blame for the economy of the '70's, which I don't really dispute, and he was only in office for 4 years.

You seem to think Bush was just a caretaker or something...
 
Why did Obama win the Presidency with ZERO business experience over a man with a much better track record of service to this nation?

It is a fucking poll Jarud....

What business experience did John McCain have exactly? He was parachuted into the position of Vice President of Public Relations at Hensley & Co, by his father in law, which was a clear case of nepotism at work. He didn't stay very long preferring to use that as a launchpad for his political career.
 
Bush's inaction, on something you & Damo both agree he "knew" and "warned" about, definitely created the crisis.

Why are you so dedicated to protecting him? I really don't get it. He was Prez, steward of the economy, for 8 years - and had a GOP Congress for most of those years. Do you really see him as some sort of innocent bystander on the economy for those years? Someone with no control over domestic policy, or even influence?

How do you remember Carter? He gets pretty much universal blame for the economy of the '70's, which I don't really dispute, and he was only in office for 4 years.

You seem to think Bush was just a caretaker or something...

if you are going to continue to dishonestly misconstrue what i said, you can pound sand. and once again for the retarded:

not stopping something is not the same thing as creating something. if i don't stop a ball rolling down the street, it doesn't mean i started the ball rolling down the street.

further, you are so obsessed with blaming only him that you can't see people pointing out facts to you is not really defending him, rather, educating you as to the truth. but go ahead and rant and whine about how we are just protecting. go ahead and cry and moan how it is all bush's fault. only a true hack believes that. carry on.
 
I'm not being dishonest; you have no idea what you say on this site (and I'm not the only one who notices that, btw). I'm still stunned about your Libya/Iraq denial; that was something you posted countless times.

As for this, it is unsurprising that you're falling back on the ol' "yer a hack." You have nothing. You're in a bad position, trying to defend 8 years of Bush's complete negligence on the economy & domestic policy....
 
Just got to hear George Schultz speak at lunch. Wow. Wish a 90 year old could run for President. He is truly a sage. I really liked his part about how things like cash for clunkers and temporary payroll tax breaks are nice short term gimmicks but do nothing for big picture growth. That would take real tax and entitlement reform which we haven't seen other than Ryan's proposal.

He also spoke about health care reform and how it will go back to the wage and price control of the '70's and we will have shortages of doctors and care.
 
Just got to hear George Schultz speak at lunch. Wow. Wish a 90 year old could run for President. He is truly a sage. I really liked his part about how things like cash for clunkers and temporary payroll tax breaks are nice short term gimmicks but do nothing for big picture growth. That would take real tax and entitlement reform which we haven't seen other than Ryan's proposal. He also spoke about health care reform and how it will go back to the wage and price control of the '70's and we will have shortages of doctors and care.

What a brilliant contribution to the thread topic.


Perry is in the lead because Teabaggers like his views on Social Security, which he thinks is unconstitutional.
 
I'm not being dishonest; you have no idea what you say on this site (and I'm not the only one who notices that, btw). I'm still stunned about your Libya/Iraq denial; that was something you posted countless times.

As for this, it is unsurprising that you're falling back on the ol' "yer a hack." You have nothing. You're in a bad position, trying to defend 8 years of Bush's complete negligence on the economy & domestic policy....

yep, ignore the substance and focus on your YOU'RE A LIAR obsession. carry on. your thread derailments are beyond boring, they are creepy.
 
I'm not being dishonest; you have no idea what you say on this site (and I'm not the only one who notices that, btw). I'm still stunned about your Libya/Iraq denial; that was something you posted countless times.

As for this, it is unsurprising that you're falling back on the ol' "yer a hack." You have nothing. You're in a bad position, trying to defend 8 years of Bush's complete negligence on the economy & domestic policy....

trying to defend 8 years of Bush's complete negligence on the economy & domestic policy..???

And there is the problem.....BDS.....

Bush presided over a country at FULL employment for over 7 years.....averaging less that 5% unemployment....
A growing an stable economy IN SPITE of a horrendous terrorist attack on the very center of economic life in the US, The World Trade Center......
That alone is an achievement unmatched by anything Obama could do in his wildest dreams....\
He lost Congress and that ended his reign of control....
 
yep, ignore the substance and focus on your YOU'RE A LIAR obsession. carry on. your thread derailments are beyond boring, they are creepy.

Don't you find that a little ironic, after you post that I'm "dishonest" about a dozen or so times today? What's the difference, Yurt? Hint: there isn't any, except that I'm telling the truth.

As for "substance," you have delusions of grandeur. You're kind of always like that - "no one can address my points." There are no points; there is no substance. You offer very little save for ill-informed generalization & fabrication.
 
trying to defend 8 years of Bush's complete negligence on the economy & domestic policy..???

And there is the problem.....BDS.....

Bush presided over a country at FULL employment for over 7 years.....averaging less that 5% unemployment....
A growing an stable economy IN SPITE of a horrendous terrorist attack on the very center of economic life in the US, The World Trade Center......
That alone is an achievement unmatched by anything Obama could do in his wildest dreams....\
He lost political control of Congress and that ended his reign of power....


And this is one of my fave arguments from bravs.

I'll just bet that you thought the head of Enron did a smashing job, right until they went belly-up. Why, the bonuses were good most of those years!
 
And this is one of my fave arguments from bravs.

I'll just bet that you thought the head of Enron did a smashing job, right until they went belly-up. Why, the bonuses were good most of those years!

Ironic...there you have it....

"no one can address my points." There are no points; there is no substance. You offer very little save for ill-informed generalization & fabrication.

Sound familiar ?

The head of Enron went to jail....he was never President....its irrelevant.
 
Ironic...there you have it....

"no one can address my points." There are no points; there is no substance. You offer very little save for ill-informed generalization & fabrication.

Sound familiar ?

The head of Enron went to jail....he was never President....its irrelevant.

The point, dopey, is that leaders are judged by the end results. Just as we wouldn't say Enron's head did a good job, because the company failed under his nose, nor would we say Bush did a good job on the economy, because the #'s were decent before it crashed - under his nose. Clearly, we had an economic house of cards under Bush.

It's hilarious that you always bring up unemployment #'s before the crash as some sort of bragging about Bush. He failed, bravs - no way around that. And it's already in the history books.
 
Don't you find that a little ironic, after you post that I'm "dishonest" about a dozen or so times today? What's the difference, Yurt? Hint: there isn't any, except that I'm telling the truth.

As for "substance," you have delusions of grandeur. You're kind of always like that - "no one can address my points." There are no points; there is no substance. You offer very little save for ill-informed generalization & fabrication.

see onceler, i'm speaking specifically to your dishonest characterizations in THIS thread. you are obsessing over purported lies i told MONTHS ago on another topic and not only are you obsessively bringing it up here, but you are trying to derail another thread about the same false accusations.

see the difference?

it is one thing to point out to you in this thread your dishonest twisting of people's word and quite another to obsessively hound someone over some false allegations in multiple threads which have nothing to do with your false allegations. you're just obsessed with the whole YOU'RE A LIAR thing.

tell you what, show the post where i said bush knew "all" about it. show that and you can clear your name on one thing.
 
Oh, goodie! I can clear my name....with someone who is pathologically deranged!

Yurt, you don't realize what you say on this site. I've never seen anything like it; it's like you're in a perpetual state of denial...
 
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