Lybia, a primer on how Iraq shold have been handled.

bravo said:
Qaddaffi and Libya mean nothing to the US.....What dictator is ruling Libya is irrelevant to the US.....

now, with Qaddaffi ousted our only concern will be if the country is taken over by crazy Muslims like those firing rockets into Isreal from Egypt now.....

We'll see....
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You have to admit...that if they do establish a democracy or a modern repbulican form of government, even if it's anti-American in sentiment.....it's hard to imagine that it could be worse then the Qaddaffi regime.
 
Speaking as someone who has never attempted to pidgeon-hole the left and Obama over Libya, I must say the comparison of a small-scale conflict to Iraq-Afghanistan is silly. Libya isn't even being waged as part of the WOT (unless you include regional stability, which is a defacto rather than deliberate part of any such scenareo). I pretty much have been anything from moderate to supportive of Obama on this particular area. While I try to discourage American involvement in these situations, I'm not going to get terribly upset, either. Especially considering the way we have been using our military these days.

I guess, with this in mind, I'm not really the target audience for the OP, but it is a silly defense to use. On a general political front, Obama will constantly remain under pressure from people on the far left to end all military engagements and to pull out of Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Pakistan, which will continue to result in those from the right criticizing him over drone and special ops incursions into Pakistan, as well as the whole Libya affair.
 
brazenhussy said:
If they don't die in war, what makes them heroes?

Do you know how many Libyans died in this war?
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I am shocked... You have to die in a war to be a hero? Those who volenteer to defend our nation, not knowing if they will be called upon to give there lives or not, those who accept small pay for very hard work to honor America... those are heros, dead or alive.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You answer my questions first (post #8) and I'll answer yours.
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you wrote that question to onceler. now, answer my question. why is it you're running around avoiding a simple question? you claim i put words in your mouth and instead of merely clearing up any confusion, you refuse to answer a question so as to put the matter behind us. good lord mott. btw, have you finally answered your other claim i put words in your mouth? i doubt it. you haven't even done so here.
 
Jarod said:
I am shocked... You have to die in a war to be a hero? Those who volenteer to defend our nation, not knowing if they will be called upon to give there lives or not, those who accept small pay for very hard work to honor America... those are heros, dead or alive.
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No I think you have to do something heroic to be a hero. Joining the military doesn't count. So I suppose I can conclude that no, you not know how many Libyans were killed? Are the dead Libyans heroes? Are the pilots who dropped bombs and killed Libyan civilians "heroes"?

Let me try this; do you care how many Libyans were killed?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You have to admit...that if they do establish a democracy or a modern repbulican form of government, even if it's anti-American in sentiment.....it's hard to imagine that it could be worse then the Qaddaffi regime.
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Estimates of Iraqis executed by the Saddam Hussein regime range to over 600,000
Killing, torture, rape and mutilation just for amusment number in hundreds of thousands....
Yet pinheads ridicule Bush's saving of Iraqi civilians even today as unnecessary and a folly...go figure
 
Jarod said:
I am so proud of America for having learned from our mistake in Iraq and for the illistration of how regieme change can be handled when incompetance and greed are not in the way of a humanararian goal. The price of gas should drop, we will have a new Arab trading partner and alli... All at a fraction of the cost of the Iraq war, without the loss of the life of a single American hero and without the huge propaganda boom Iraq gave the now all but defunct AL Queda.
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I think you forgot the constitutional violation part.
 
brazenhussy said:
No I think you have to do something heroic to be a hero. Joining the military doesn't count. So I suppose I can conclude that no, you not know how many Libyans were killed? Are the dead Libyans heroes? Are the pilots who dropped bombs and killed Libyan civilians "heroes"?

Let me try this; do you care how many Libyans were killed?
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Whats your point ? How many revolutions to oust a tyrant happen without the lose of life ?
Its obvious you're a pinheaded troll, you don't have keep proving it....
 
bravo said:
Whats your point ? How many revolutions to oust a tyrant happen without the lose of life ? Its obvious you're a pinheaded troll, you don't have keep proving it....
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Poor Blabo.


LOL, this was before he figured out who the Libyan rebels are - or before he got his new two-minutes hate message from a rightwing fear blog.


Hilarious.
 
brazenhussy said:
No I think you have to do something heroic to be a hero. Joining the military doesn't count. So I suppose I can conclude that no, you not know how many Libyans were killed? Are the dead Libyans heroes? Are the pilots who dropped bombs and killed Libyan civilians "heroes"?

Let me try this; do you care how many Libyans were killed?
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Sure I care about how many people were killed, but in a battle for a nation, I perfer those whose nation it is die for the cause over Americans.
 
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