Rick Perry, the George W. Bush of this election?

Jarod

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Seriously are the Republicans going to try to redo the W presidency. I watched that guy give a speech last night and I thought I was watching W without the studder.

An arrogant social conservative Texan Governor with a swagger is not what we need.

Ugh, dont they ever learn?
 
Perry will be severely handicapped because it will be way too easy - deserved or not - for the liberals to equate him to Dubya. Perry could be NOTHING like Bush, and that would not stop the liberal democratic propaganda machine (ie: the main stream media) from painting him as a clone. Unfortunately, there are similarities on which the clone picture can be painted. I mean, governor of Texas?

I do not think he could win the general election with the bitter taste of the Bush years being kept fresh in the minds of people via the rhetoric of the liberals, who are getting more and more desperate to continue scapegoating the complete incompetence of their beloved leader.
 
As if liberals would ever consider him anyway. They hated Bush, they hate Perry, they hate all Conservatives.

Are you saying the TEA Party should let liberals pick our candidate?
 
As if liberals would ever consider him anyway. They hated Bush, they hate Perry, they hate all Conservatives.

Are you saying the TEA Party should let liberals pick our candidate?
I am saying the republicans need a candidate that can win. What use is the ideal conservative candidate if they are running under an insurmountable handicap? It is unfortunate that we have degraded so far in our political system that one needs pay as much attention to the likely strategies and tactics of the opposition as we do in the person themselves when selecting a viable candidate, but that is the sad reality we face these days.

Of course liberals won't vote for him, and I never hinted they would. We already know whom the liberals are going to vote for. But in order to win, they will bend over backwards, lie, cheat, steal, rape, pillage, write bad poetry, froth at the mouth, throw tantrums, eat donkey shit by the shovel full, auction off their first born to Middle East slavers, and sell what few souls they have left between them in order to defeat anyone who opposes their precious Hope & Change, Bob-the-Builder Obama. Selecting a candidate that gives them laser-sights, pre-loaded magazines and extra ammunition on stripper clips isn't going to win conservatives anything, let alone the White House.

The moderate center will determine this next presidential election, just as they have the last several. Kerry lost to Bush because Kerry could not get the center to relate to him as a candidate. Gore SHOULD have won, but with his basic lack of personality lost just enough of the center to lose the electoral college by losing Florida. (Watch the liberals jump all over this! LOL) Clinton had HUGE appeal with the center, and that appeal swept him into the WH easily. Bush I lost the center with his "read my lips" broken promise, and lost his second bid for office. Reagan also had a HUGE following in the center, and won by margins that the democrats still drool over.

With a candidate whom it is too easy to paint as a Dubya clone, we could end up losing too much of that all-important center. And that would be bad for the nation, as well as republicans.
 
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Stick with Mittzie the Mass Mormon like a good little Teabagger.

It really deson't matter which Teatard you run.

Obama will crucify you. Four more years.

:lol:​
 
To win, they will bend over backwards, lie, cheat, steal, rape, pillage, write bad poetry, froth at the mouth, throw tantrums, eat donkey shit by the shovel full, auction off their first born to Middle East slavers, and sell what few souls they have left between them in order to defeat anyone who opposes their precious Hope & Change, Bob-the-Builder Obama. Selecting a candidate that gives them laser-sights, pre-loaded magazines and extra ammunition on stripper clips isn't going to win conservatives anything, let alone the White House.

How poetic.
 
All the republican candidates are morons.

I'm sure that is something of an exaggeration, WB. They are misguided. They are self serving. They are mistaken. They believe in fairies and goblins. They think they are entitled to more than their allotted fifteen minutes. Many are completely stupid. Few can form a coherent sentence. They fall off bicycles. They live in Texas. But morons? Bit strong, I think.
 
I am saying the republicans need a candidate that can win. What use is the ideal conservative candidate if they are running under an insurmountable handicap? It is unfortunate that we have degraded so far in our political system that one needs pay as much attention to the likely strategies and tactics of the opposition as we do in the person themselves when selecting a viable candidate, but that is the sad reality we face these days.

Of course liberals won't vote for him, and I never hinted they would. We already know whom the liberals are going to vote for. But in order to win, they will bend over backwards, lie, cheat, steal, rape, pillage, write bad poetry, froth at the mouth, throw tantrums, eat donkey shit by the shovel full, auction off their first born to Middle East slavers, and sell what few souls they have left between them in order to defeat anyone who opposes their precious Hope & Change, Bob-the-Builder Obama. Selecting a candidate that gives them laser-sights, pre-loaded magazines and extra ammunition on stripper clips isn't going to win conservatives anything, let alone the White House.

The moderate center will determine this next presidential election, just as they have the last several. Kerry lost to Bush because Kerry could not get the center to relate to him as a candidate. Gore SHOULD have won, but with his basic lack of personality lost just enough of the center to lose the electoral college by losing Florida. (Watch the liberals jump all over this! LOL) Clinton had HUGE appeal with the center, and that appeal swept him into the WH easily. Bush I lost the center with his "read my lips" broken promise, and lost his second bid for office. Reagan also had a HUGE following in the center, and won by margins that the democrats still drool over.

With a candidate whom it is too easy to paint as a Dubya clone, we could end up losing too much of that all-important center. And that would be bad for the nation, as well as republicans.

One party, trying to paint the other party's candidate in the most extreme, negative way possible in order to win?

Say it ain't so! I don't think I've seen either party do that before...
 
Seriously are the Republicans going to try to redo the W presidency. I watched that guy give a speech last night and I thought I was watching W without the studder.

An arrogant social conservative Texan Governor with a swagger is not what we need.

Ugh, dont they ever learn?

:lol:

Need a job?
Move to Texas
Finding work may not be quite that simple, but it sure seems that way. While the nation’s job growth has limped along since the economic recovery began two years ago, the Lone Star State is enlarging payrolls in Texas-size fashion.


From June 2009 to June 2011 the state added 262,000 jobs, or half the USA’s 524,000 payroll gains, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas and the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Even by a more conservative estimate that omits states with net job losses, Texas’ advances make up 30% of the 1 million additions in the 34 states with net growth.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2011-07-25-texas-a-magnet-for-jobs_n.htm



He is exactly what we need, unlike the idiot we have now.


Obama Visits Corporation Where His Stimulus Created 'Green' Jobs at $2 Million Per Job


President Barack Obama on Thursday toured a vehicle battery plant in Michigan, touting his administration’s focus on green technology and jobs, at a corporation where federal money authorized by the economic stimulus law that Obama signed at the beginning of his presidency had created "green" jobs at a cost of about $2 million in federal subsidies per job.
 
There's a large difference between the two, Perry has been a largely successful leader. Of the jobs "created" during this downturn, 39% of them were in Texas. That's a significant difference over what we see in other states. His state took none of the "stimulus" money, and has done well regardless, creating a growing economy. I worry about the religious thing, but I see none of the progressiveness I saw in GWB. He isn't running on the pill bill, a power-grabbing federal education initiative or, from what I've seen, amnesty without regard to those who have come her legally.
 
On issues across the board, from Perry’s support for dropping out of Social Security and Medicaid to his state’s abysmal pollution levels and his proposal that Texas secede from the United States, the Republican governor has amassed a record of far-right extremism.

(1) PERRY ALLOWED THE EXECUTION OF A LIKELY INNOCENT MAN, THEN IMPEDED AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE MATTER: In 2004, Cameron Todd Willingham was executed in Huntsville, Texas after being convicted of arson and the murder of his three children. Even after significant evidence emerged showing that arson had not caused the fire (thus exonerating Willingham), Perry refused to grant a stay of execution. Five years after Willingham was executed, a report from a Texas Forensic Science Commission investigator found that the fire could not have been arson. As the commission prepared to hear testimony from the investigator in October 2009, Perry quickly fired and replaced three of its members, forcing an indefininte delay of the hearing.

PERRY WANTS TO REPEAL THE 17th AMENDMENT, ENDING DIRECT ELECTION OF U.S. SENATORS: In his 2010 book Fed Up!, Perry called the 17th Amendment “mistaken” and said they resulted from “a fit of populist rage.” The 17th Amendment took electing U.S. senators out of the hands of political insiders and allowed the American public to decide their representation instead.


(3) PERRY PROPOSED LETTING STATES DROP OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICAID: Despite the programs’ importance and popularity, Perry has argued that states like Texas should be allowed to opt out of Social Security and Medicaid. Were Perry to have his way on Social Security, “the entire system would collapse under the weight of too many Social Security beneficiaries who had not paid into the system,” notes Ian Millhiser. On Medicaid, in addition to stripping 3.6 million low-income Texans of their health care, Perry’s proposal would actually hurt, not help, the state’s budget deficit. This is because, as Igor Volsky writes, opting out of Medicaid would take “billions out of the state economy that goes on to support hospitals and other providers,” while forcing hospitals “to swallow the costs of caring for uninsured individuals who will continue to use the emergency room as their primary source of care.”


TEXAS IS THE COUNTRY’S BIGGEST POLLUTER, BUT PERRY SUED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR DISAPPROVING OF THE STATE’S AIR QUALITY STANDARDS: Texas is the biggest polluter in the country, leading the nation in carbon dioxide emissions. However, when the EPA published its “disapproval” of the state’s air quality standards for falling short of the Clean Air Act’s requirements, Perry sued the federal government to challenge the ruling. Perry’s environmental record doesn’t end there. He is a global warming denier who called the 2010 BP
PERRY DESIGNATED AS “EMERGENCY LEGISLATION” A BILL REQUIRING ALL WOMEN SEEKING ABORTIONS TO HAVE SONOGRAMS FIRST: In January, Perry proposed requiring all women seeking abortions to have a sonogram at least 24 hours before the procedure. Under the bill, doctors would be required to “tell a woman the size of her fetus’ limbs and organs, even if she does not want to know.” Before a woman is permitted to have an abortion, physicians are also forced to provide an image of the fetus and make the woman listen to the sound of its heartbeat. Perry designated his proposal as “emergency legislation,” allowing the bill to be rushed through the legislature. He signed it into law last month.

(6) PERRY GUTTED CHILDCARE SERVICES EVEN AS TEXAS CHILDHOOD POVERTY HIT 25 PERCENT: Facing a $27 billion budget deficit this year, Perry decided to gut child support services, despite a report from the Center for Public Policy Priorities that found nearly one in four Texas children lived beneath the poverty line. Instead of raising revenue like California, a state facing a similarly sized deficit, Perry scaled back more than $10 billion of child support over two years. As Think Progress’ Pat Garofalo noted, these cuts were proposed despite Texas’ possession of a $8.2 billion rainy day fund

(7) PERRY WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF TEXAS’S ANTI-SODOMY LAWS: Perry was a strong proponent of Texas’s anti-sodomy law that was struck down in 2003 by the Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas. Calling the law “appropriate,” Perry dismissed the Court decision as the result of “nine oligarchs in robes.” Even after being struck down, Perry supported the Texas legislature’s refusal to remove the law from its books.

(8) PERRY IS A STIMULUS HYPOCRITE WHO LOUDLY CRITICIZED FEDERAL RECOVERY MONEY BUT USED IT TO BALANCE HIS STATE’S BUDGET: As the nation struggled to avoid economic collapse in 2009, Perry was a vocal critic of Congress’s recovery package, even advocating that Texas reject the money because “we can take care of ourselves.” Months later, after Perry was able to balance the state’s budget only with the aid of billions in federal stimulus dollars, Perry again repeated that he would reject federal funding, arguing that the government “spends money they don’t have.” Five months later, Perry again took advantage of federal funding to issue $2 billion in bonds for highway improvements in Texas. Even so, the state faces a $27 billion budget deficit

(9) PERRY SAID THAT TEXAS MIGHT HAVE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES: One hundred and fifty years ago, Texas and other southern states seceded from the Union, resulting in a bloody Civil War. 148 years later, Perry floated the idea that Texas may again have to secede because of a federal government that “continues to thumb their nose at the American people.” Perry was roundly criticized for his proposal, yet he repeated his threat the next month on Fox News, telling host Neil Cavuto, “If Washington continues to force these programs on the states, if Washington continues to disregard the tenth amendment, who knows what happens.”

10) DESPITE HAVING THE WORST UNINSURED RATE IN THE COUNTRY, PERRY CLAIMS THAT TEXAS HAS “THE BEST HEALTH CARE IN THE COUNTRY” : On Bill Bennett’s radio show last year, Perry claimed that “Texas has the best health care in the country.” In reality, Texas has the highest rate of uninsured residents of any state. More than one in four Texans lack coverage; the national average is just 15.4 percent. As such, there are more uninsured residents in Texas than there are people in 33 states. Despite Texas’s low coverage rates, the state has some of the most restrictive Medicaid eligibility thresholds, and Perry has even proposed dropping out of the program. Texas also has an inordinately high percentage of impoverished children, yet Perry opposed expanding the successful State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/04/15/37587/perry-texas-secession/
 
There's a large difference between the two, Perry has been a largely successful leader. Of the jobs "created" during this downturn, 39% of them were in Texas. That's a significant difference over what we see in other states. His state took none of the "stimulus" money, and has done well regardless, creating a growing economy. I worry about the religious thing, but I see none of the progressiveness I saw in GWB. He isn't running on the pill bill, a power-grabbing federal education initiative or, from what I've seen, amnesty without regard to those who have come her legally.

No , Perry hasn't been a successful leader. He's been a schmuck. "His state took none of the stimulus money...."?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
http://www.khou.com/news/Stimulus-in-Texas-Where-is-the-money-going-103003424.html''

Better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. You don't fucking know what you are talking about...so STFU.
 
No , Perry hasn't been a successful leader. He's been a schmuck. "His state took none of the stimulus money...."?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
http://www.khou.com/news/Stimulus-in-Texas-Where-is-the-money-going-103003424.html''

Better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. You don't fucking know what you are talking about...so STFU.

Interesting.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/23/news/economy/texas_perry_budget_stimulus/index.htm

This will harm him in his campaign.
 
Perry will be severely handicapped because it will be way too easy - deserved or not - for the liberals to equate him to Dubya. Perry could be NOTHING like Bush, and that would not stop the liberal democratic propaganda machine (ie: the main stream media) from painting him as a clone. Unfortunately, there are similarities on which the clone picture can be painted. I mean, governor of Texas?

I do not think he could win the general election with the bitter taste of the Bush years being kept fresh in the minds of people via the rhetoric of the liberals, who are getting more and more desperate to continue scapegoating the complete incompetence of their beloved leader.
Well jesus fucking christ! The American people would have to be idiots of staggering proportions to not forget about the disaster that was the Bush presidency or have that in the fore front of their minds. The current crop of Republican candidates is by far and away the weakest in my life time.

The American public may not be impressed with Obama's leadership about getting us out the the ditch were in but for gods sake, we aint forgotten who the hell drove us into that ditch. Right wing ideologues who are completely clueless on how to govern.
 
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