another murder by the government

to a cowchip tossing texas idiot yes, to the educated a martial artist has no need or desire to be in that pussy class of individual.

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first, he never fired a shot
second, it wouldn't be the first time a cop or group of cops have killed during SWAT raids, whether the victim was armed or unarmed
third, he would still be alive today if your government would end the unconstitutional war on a naturally occurring plant.

I am not defending cops, who have way too many thugs wearing badges. I am not defending the draconian law that forbids people from growing a harmless plant. I am not saying citizens shouldn't have the right to have a gun to protect their family and property. I am questioning the intelligence of anyone who would confront a SWAT team with an AR-15 in his hands.

If he did have an AR-15 in his hand, he died from stupidity.
 
I am not defending cops, who have way too many thugs wearing badges. I am not defending the draconian law that forbids people from growing a harmless plant. I am not saying citizens shouldn't have the right to have a gun to protect their family and property. I am questioning the intelligence of anyone who would confront a SWAT team with an AR-15 in his hands.

If he did have an AR-15 in his hand, he died from stupidity.

according to the wife, the SWAT team didn't announce entry, they just started banging away. so he thought he was confronting home invaders, which he was in fact.
 

You are preaching to the choir. I have posted numerous times the conservative 'Nanny State' that has been created over the last 40 years.

Love it or leave it...wow, I haven't heard that since they started killing honor roll students at Kent State!

It's ironic, conservatives scream, cry and groan about BIG government, warn of the dire perils of government intervention and intrusion, but most of all, they always hammer home the ever lurking 'unintended consequences' of the same...

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So either conservatives are lying, or this is THEIR idea of a 'Nanny State'

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Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
Edmund Burke
 
you left out something, so i fixed it for you

Oh no, you're not going to pin this one on liberals. There is no 100% blame in this world, but the majority of the blame rightfully goes to conservatives.

The Republicans and the right in America today believe the only way to solve our problems is through punishment. And if that doesn't work, the punishment is just not severe enough. I suggest you research the 1994 Crimes Bill and how Republicans and the right demonized the most constructive part of that bill.

In the early to mid 90's Congress crafted a crimes bill. The original funding framework called for equal thirds of the money to go to 1) police enforcement 2) prisons 3) crime prevention

The crime prevention part of the bill would go toward education, job training, community engagement by law enforcement, child-centered activities (money for arts and crafts, dance programs, recreational activities, nutrition training, and so forth), assorted inner city youth activity programs, urban parks and recreation, schools (money is to be used "to improve the academic and social development of youths by instituting a collaborative structure that trains and coordinates efforts of social workers, teachers, and principles."), youth development for such activities as "providing youth with life skills", drug treatment programs in prisons. and facilities like community centers.

Statistics showed that the majority of youth crimes are committed after school lets out and before dinner time. It is not difficult to see what is missing during that time period, adult supervision. So the idea was to provide a safe and supervised facility where these kids could go.

It was during this period that Newt Gingrich and the 'Contract with America' Republicans took over Congress.

The 'Contract with America' Republicans attacked and demonized this part of the bill and did everything possible to defund that part of the bill.

The real irony of that debate; Police Chiefs from around the country ascended on Washington to lobby Congress FOR the prevention provisions, because they knew that the best way to help law enforcement was not more police or more punishment, it was through education, training and community activism.
 
I agree with BF, the little bit of blame the dems get is for being pussies and following the repukes lead.
It will take a lot to shake the vagina off the male dems, Obama's double shot and splash should go a long way to eventually making man cards available to democrat politicians.
 
Oh no, you're not going to pin this one on liberals. There is no 100% blame in this world, but the majority of the blame rightfully goes to conservatives.
yes, I am going to pin this one on liberals, every bit as much as I will on conservatives. it is a 50/50 split.

The Republicans and the right in America today believe the only way to solve our problems is through punishment. And if that doesn't work, the punishment is just not severe enough. I suggest you research the 1994 Crimes Bill and how Republicans and the right demonized the most constructive part of that bill.
In the early to mid 90's Congress crafted a crimes bill. The original funding framework called for equal thirds of the money to go to 1) police enforcement 2) prisons 3) crime prevention

The crime prevention part of the bill would go toward education, job training, community engagement by law enforcement, child-centered activities (money for arts and crafts, dance programs, recreational activities, nutrition training, and so forth), assorted inner city youth activity programs, urban parks and recreation, schools (money is to be used "to improve the academic and social development of youths by instituting a collaborative structure that trains and coordinates efforts of social workers, teachers, and principles."), youth development for such activities as "providing youth with life skills", drug treatment programs in prisons. and facilities like community centers.

Statistics showed that the majority of youth crimes are committed after school lets out and before dinner time. It is not difficult to see what is missing during that time period, adult supervision. So the idea was to provide a safe and supervised facility where these kids could go.

It was during this period that Newt Gingrich and the 'Contract with America' Republicans took over Congress.

The 'Contract with America' Republicans attacked and demonized this part of the bill and did everything possible to defund that part of the bill.

The real irony of that debate; Police Chiefs from around the country ascended on Washington to lobby Congress FOR the prevention provisions, because they knew that the best way to help law enforcement was not more police or more punishment, it was through education, training and community activism.

then why did a democrat president and a democrat senate approve and sign it? I say again, it is a 50/50 split on blame.
 
repukes are 70 % against and dems are about 40% against

the prison complex is owned by the repubs almost as much as they own oil

sty your a simpleton
 
yes, I am going to pin this one on liberals, every bit as much as I will on conservatives. it is a 50/50 split.



then why did a democrat president and a democrat senate approve and sign it? I say again, it is a 50/50 split on blame.

You can choose to ignore the realities of liberals vs. conservatives at your own peril.
 
You can choose to ignore the realities of liberals vs. conservatives at your own peril.

you can choose to remain ignorant of reality as well, at your own peril. I pay attention to all the news, I watch LIBERAL states like MASS and Maryland kill their own citizens on a daily basis due to the totalitarian regimes there, which are LIBERAL, just as often as their conservative counterparts like AZ and TX.

does cyber piracy require SWAT raids? both left and right states do them, so how is that mainly conservative?
 
you can choose to remain ignorant of reality as well, at your own peril. I pay attention to all the news, I watch LIBERAL states like MASS and Maryland kill their own citizens on a daily basis due to the totalitarian regimes there, which are LIBERAL, just as often as their conservative counterparts like AZ and TX.

does cyber piracy require SWAT raids? both left and right states do them, so how is that mainly conservative?

Hey Einstein, SWAT teams, law enforcement and the military are just liberal magnets.
 
Hey Einstein, SWAT teams, law enforcement and the military are just liberal magnets.

since you haven't been paying attention, they are THUG magnets, attracting the worst of both groups. It's why most of the top law enforcement people are anti gun liberals and anti pot conservatives. 50/50, like i've been telling you. stop ignoring reality.
 
since you haven't been paying attention, they are THUG magnets, attracting the worst of both groups. It's why most of the top law enforcement people are anti gun liberals and anti pot conservatives. 50/50, like i've been telling you. stop ignoring reality.

You have no understanding of the difference between liberals and conservatives. You are merely justifying your own 2nd amendment paranoia. Anti- gun liberals are not people who use guns to kill people. Most liberals are against all killing, human, animal, plants and trees.
 
Is it any wonder we can't get shit done?

Rather than work for a solution we waste our time with "Its your party's fault", "No its your party's fault more".


This is how the politicians can keep us from noticing we are getting fucked regardless of who is in power. As long as we keep this nonsense up we won't stop getting played.

The entire world, almost any event, gets boiled down to whether it is the liberal's fault or the conservative's fault.

Imagine if we put as much energy into a solution as we do into blaming someone else? Wouldn't that be something to see.

Nah, never happen.
 
since you haven't been paying attention, they are THUG magnets, attracting the worst of both groups. It's why most of the top law enforcement people are anti gun liberals and anti pot conservatives. 50/50, like i've been telling you. stop ignoring reality.

Is Smarter Than Few able to quantify that statement with facts?

Let's see.
 
Is it any wonder we can't get shit done?

Rather than work for a solution we waste our time with "Its your party's fault", "No its your party's fault more".


This is how the politicians can keep us from noticing we are getting fucked regardless of who is in power. As long as we keep this nonsense up we won't stop getting played.

The entire world, almost any event, gets boiled down to whether it is the liberal's fault or the conservative's fault.

Imagine if we put as much energy into a solution as we do into blaming someone else? Wouldn't that be something to see.

Nah, never happen.

Sounds great, but here is the problem. Right wingers don't even know what caused the problems. They are being fed lies and propaganda 24/7. They are totally controlled by fear, dogma and ignorance.

Our economy crashed because of deregulation, so what is the right wing solution...MORE and DEEPER deregulation.
 
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