Oh absolutely he indicated an attitude of leverage... (if you want us to stay and protect you from Iran pay up) My point was that he was not talking about what he would have done as much as what he will do.
I'm starting to change my mind on Trump!
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Oh absolutely he indicated an attitude of leverage... (if you want us to stay and protect you from Iran pay up) My point was that he was not talking about what he would have done as much as what he will do.
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I'm still not 100% sold... I can't wrap my mind around the idea of going into the voting booth, and pulling the lever for Donald Trump as President of the United States... I mean... that's something I am really grappling with here... it's a little surreal. And I am still not convinced I am wrong on my first instincts, that he is merely trying to help out Romney. This latest 'tough talk' appealed to the more hawkish right... not the typical moderate republican position.. he didn't win over many Romney voters with that stuff. So, I could still be right initially about Trump, everything is still up in the air... but I am starting to see where Trump could potentially blow this whole election out of the water, and forever change politics as we know them. I'm kind of jazzed about that, actually.
Right now, I have a little devil Don on one shoulder, and a little angel Don on the other... One is saying: The man has absolutely no political experience, he's never been elected dog catcher! ...The other is saying: The man has absolutely no ties to the political machine and doesn't care how party politics are played, and is wealthy enough to not be bought off by special interests. I am really struggling with this.
I am open minded, and the fact that Trump has the liberals wondering what the fuck they are going to do about this... it's kind of fun to watch. I would LOVE to see Donald Trump in a debate with Obama... he would mop the floor with him! Hell, I kinda want to see The Don in a debate with the other Republican candidates, that's going to be interesting as well. If nothing else, Trump serves to raise the issues no one else is willing to touch, and he just puts it all out there on the table for discussion and makes his case. What would normally be his weak spot, the total lack of political experience, is also his strongest asset... you can't tie Trump to the GOP... to Bush... to McCain... to Boehner... or even to the TEA Party. He doesn't have ANY experience governing in public office... NONE! Yet....in the current political climate, that is somehow translating to a PLUS for Trump! What remains to be seen is, will the actual VOTERS show up and support Donald Trump with an actual VOTE?
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The man is a joke, he panders to birthers?!!
The man is a joke, he panders to birthers?!!
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The man is a joke, he panders to birthers?!!
LOL.... So? He is a pandering kinda guy! It's sort of what he is known for. But Trump would disagree he is pandering to the birthers, he maintains there wouldn't be any 'birthers' if Obama would show us the birth certificate, and he's absolutely right about that. He doesn't care about the birthers, he cares about the integrity of the office, and restoring public trust in the president as legitimate. 48% of Iowans agree with him, and nearly a quarter of the country doesn't think he was born in the US. Trump falls in the category of a LOT of us, who don't necessarily believe he wasn't born in Hawaii, but there is something on his birth certificate he doesn't want us to see. And here's the deal, pinheads.... Sooner or later, the Obama birth certificate is going to be made public. This might be when we are old and gray, hell it might be after we are long gone... but eventually, his birth certificate will be made public for the world to see. It's like the Elvis autopsy report... The Kennedy files... it all becomes public as some point.
Is that Ken posting a picture of Trump as a monkey? Kenneth is a racist~
PostmodernProphet
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/shrugs......you have to admit, the Dems have set the bar pretty low by electing Obama.....its clear the candidate no longer needs to be qualified, merely popular....
Dix - you're funny. Is Trump relatively new to you? It sounds like you haven't seen much of him before the past couple of weeks.
Obama isn't quaking in his boots about Trump. In the few actual interviews he's done since interest in the Presidency started brewing this time around, he's been defensive, vindictive & all over the place. He'll be a mess in the debates, and under the scrutiny of an actual campaign.
It would be fun alright, but not in the way you think. He'll implode on the campaign trail. But it won't get that far; smart money is on his doing this to boost ratings for his show, & nothing more...
Obama isn't quaking in his boots about Trump. In the few actual interviews he's done since interest in the Presidency started brewing this time around, he's been defensive, vindictive & all over the place. He'll be a mess in the debates, and under the scrutiny of an actual campaign.
It would be fun alright, but not in the way you think. He'll implode on the campaign trail. But it won't get that far; smart money is on his doing this to boost ratings for his show, & nothing more...
charver
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I hate to butt in here, but is Mr Trump actually declared to run for the Presidency yet?
I hear many of his detractors saying that Mr Trump is only garnering publicity for his 'Apprentice' show on the telly box. I imagine this is a terrible slur, and look forward to Mr Trump's announcement, pertaining to his Presidential intentions, in the finale of his 'Celebrity Apprentice' show.
I hear many of his detractors saying that Mr Trump is only garnering publicity for his 'Apprentice' show on the telly box. I imagine this is a terrible slur, and look forward to Mr Trump's announcement, pertaining to his Presidential intentions, in the finale of his 'Celebrity Apprentice' show.
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Here's the deal with the speculation he is doing this for ratings... his show is wildly successful, it's the leading reality show on TV and the top show in its time slot.... now why in the hell does Trump need "publicity" for the show again? I mean, I could see it if the show were fledgling, or being beaten out by the competition... but he has the #1 rated show, it doesn't get better than this... why do you need more publicity?
He has not announced yet, because once you announce, the election laws prohibit you from having a TV show... the network would have to give all candidates 'equal time' ...this is why he can't officially announce his candidacy until the completion of this season's show. Trump, as well as those close to Trump, indicate he is running, it's just a matter of timing on the announcement.
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Onezies, I fully understand your need to defiantly refute me and insist Obama doesn't fear The Donald. I am sure Democrat strategists are jizzing in their panties over the chance to campaign against someone with ZERO political experience, but I believe that is going to be the kicker here, Trump isn't a traditional candidate, throw convention out the window. If he wins the GOP nomination, it signals the electorate is not concerned over his lack of political experience, and his leadership experience outweighs that. Should we get to that point, Obama is in serious trouble, because while he knows and understands how to play politics, how to wage a traditional political party battle, he doesn't know how to beat a populist "non-party" type like Trump.
The evidence to support this, is your weak-ass posting here. Most any other candidate, you go off in a rant about how they are tied to Bush, parroting right ring extremist rhetoric, want to starve old people and take away their social security... voted for this or that... you know the drill. But with Trump, what the hell have you got to say? He's a joke? He has bad hair? He's a mess? It's just really weak compared to the politically charged allegations and accusations you routinely lob at Republicans. I think that is what might make Trump a very attractive candidate for the GOP, he can't be tied to Bush or the establishment Republicans, he didn't agree with the Bush administration on many things, so there is no albatross to hang around Trump's neck. What are you going to say about Trump? He's outrageous and flamboyant? YEP! SO???
PostmodernProphet
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I think that would be a bad tactic.....the argument can be made that although he's been president for three years, Obama STILL has zero political experience......
That's my point, though. With Trump, no one will really have to say anything. He'll self-destruct; his ego isn't built for the scrutiny & criticism he'll get in a national campaign. Like I said, we're already seeing it on a smaller scale.
And this is coming from a Trump fan (of sorts). I have watched the guy for over 2 decades now - I love what he has done in business, and on his show. But you're in for a treat if you don't understand some of his negatives, yet.
Man, would you regret it if he became the nominee, if that really happened. It won't though; he won't survive the primaries...
charver
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And by that reasoning 'Coke' have no reason to advertise either.
Funny that they still do though, eh?
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Advertising is one thing, a publicity stunt is something else. You don't see Coke resorting to sensationalist publicity stunts, they don't need to... maybe some off brand no one has ever heard of, who wants to compete with Coke, would be so compelled, but Coke has no such motivation.
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I agree that Trump has an ego, and says outrageous things sometimes, or isn't afraid to tell it like it is.... but you see, I think in his case, it's an asset. The thing that would destroy most any political career in America, is what makes Trump so appealing. It's bizarre, I know... but that's what I am seeing so far. I also have to stick with my original gut feeling, that Trump is in this to help Romney win the nomination, by siphoning votes away from other TEA Party candidates. I really do believe that is what is happening, but I could be wrong. That said, I will repeat this... IF Trump actually WINS the GOP nomination, Obama has a serious problem. Now you can refuse to believe that, it's fine... but I am telling you, mark my words... if he does win the GOP nomination, Obama will have a difficult time winning re-election.
Any other candidate on the right, is going to have to play the political game with Obama and beat him at it, and Obama is good. Any other candidate on the right, can and will be tied to Bush or Republicans, and will have to battle that stigma... Trump is an anomaly, the "non-candidate" who doesn't know how to play the political game, and doesn't really care to learn. It's really hard to politically attack someone who hasn't been political... what is Trump's voting record? What did he promise and fail to deliver the last time he was elected? What lobby group is funding his campaign? You see... all of the negative shit that follows every politician around like a black cloud, doesn't exist for Trump. Therefore, his detractors are left stuttering and stammering like a bunch of goofballs, talking about how crazy he is, how unconventional, what bad hair.... and that seems to be what is making him so popular out there! We might have to start calling him Teflon Don, because so far, none of your slime balls are sticking.
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Trump's biggest supporters all seem to have suffered head injuries, for some reason.
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I don't know, but I was probably right.
Look, he hasn't won the nomination, he hasn't even announced he is running, no on has really... so it's way too early to tell... we don't even know if Trump's amazing poll numbers would translate to actual votes or not... that remains to be seen. A lot of people can be pissed off enough right now to SAY they would vote for Trump, but when they are in that booth and ready to pull the lever, will they actually do so? This is just something we don't know yet, and can't really predict. But like I said... IF (note the word) Trump should win the GOP nomination, it means the unconventional has become conventional, and it means this election will not fit the mold of tradition. Party politics go out the window, and all bets are off as to who will win the presidency. Obama can win a campaign against a traditional candidate, he knows what to do, what to say, what tricks to pull out of the hat... it's his game to lose. With Trump, he would face something unlike any politician in modern times has had to face, and I don't think he can beat Trump, if the snowball has taken him to the nomination. If Trump gets that far with this, Obama doesn't have a chance.