christiefan915
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Obama: Most people confident he was born in Hawaii
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"More conservative than people think I am..." His words, not mine. Grow up.
zappasguitar
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Well surely that can't be the ONLY evidence you birthers have that indicates President Obama is lying about his place of birth.
Is it?
And we're talking "evidence" not speculation like "he's got a Connecticut SSN but he never lived there...that PROVES he's lying!"
zappasguitar
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Someone who refuses to accept the fact that Obama has provided sufficient evidence to prove he was born in this country.
No, the FIRST goal post was that Obama PROVE his citizenship...and he has done just that.
Once Birthers realized they might have a potential wedge issue with this come 2012, they moved the goalposts and demanded that the President PROVIDE FURTHER PROOF beyond what he had already supplied and that THEY PERSONALLY be allowed to examine the BC President Obama provided.
Just like the "Intelligent Design" nutjobs...birthers don't have any hard evidence to support their claims, all they do is create doubt with regards to evidence the Obama camp has already provided in an attempt to create support for their speculative conspiracies.
Considering that Hawaii wont release the origional or a copy of it, the document Obama has already released it the best evidence.
WRONG, he cant, thats what the AG of Hawaii has said.
There is no provision for anyone to get a copy of there BC, if you ask for one, you get what the Presidnet Has already released.
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you have no clue what you're talking about. i actually called the registrars office in hawaii and confirmed that you can get a copy of the long form or original b/c. you can stomp your feet all day long about the the AG says....but the fact remains....the LAW allows you to get a copy of the original.
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not true......a copy of the original can be released according to their LAW. and as a lawyer, you know damn well that even if hawaii said they would not release a copy of the original.....that the orginal is still the best evidence BECAUSE it exists.
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ok....then i'm not a birther. were you lying or just wrong?
my lord.....you're dumb. the goal is STILL the same. that obama PROVE his citizenship. that is the goal dumbass. asking or demanding better evidence of the GOAL is not moving the goal post, as the goal is still the same, they want proof obama is a citizen. evidence is not the goal. but i'm not surprised you can't understand such a simple concept.
so you can't answer a simple question as to what is the "best evidence" proving obama is a citizen.....i don't wonder why.....i know its because you know, deep down, that it is the original or copy of the b/c. but you can't admit that, because that would mean you would have to admit your enemy, yurt, is right. so you puss out.
charver
You lookin' at my pint?
Let's take a theme and run with it.
I'm not convinced that this Obama fellow is a man.
I demand that he prove that he was actually born a man.
Why oh why will Obama not make each and every speech naked from the waist down to prove to the world he is not actually a 'Pope Joan' style fraud? He had the ability and the means to prove this to the world and yet he does no such thing, with his fancy trousers and all.
Is this not a reasonable request?
What has Obama got to hide?
For shame.
I'm not convinced that this Obama fellow is a man.
I demand that he prove that he was actually born a man.
Why oh why will Obama not make each and every speech naked from the waist down to prove to the world he is not actually a 'Pope Joan' style fraud? He had the ability and the means to prove this to the world and yet he does no such thing, with his fancy trousers and all.
Is this not a reasonable request?
What has Obama got to hide?
For shame.
I suspect you are lying, please see the cite at the thread, "Trump the Chump". Please cite the law that allows you to get a copy of the origional.
It would be the best, in that sense, but it would not be the BEST available because its not available..
Ill play your game. The "BEST" evidence would be testamony from his mother. A birth Certificate is actually hearsay, likely it would fall under some of the exceptions, but its still hearsay.
I suspect you are lying, please see the cite at the thread, "Trump the Chump". Please cite the law that allows you to get a copy of the origional.
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jarod.....i've posted the law numerous times, and so have others. i promise you, i called hawaii and confirmed what i said. you can suspect i'm lying all you want, but it is the truth, i called and asked if i could get a copy of the long form/original for a paternity suit. their answer --> yes.
do you really need me to post the law again? why don't you call them up yourself.....i dare you jarod.
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it is available jarod....
and the b/c is an EXCEPTION to the hearsay rule jarod......so you fail again
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your link doesn't work jarod.....why are you ignoring the law? i dare you to call up and ask for a copy of the long form/original....not obama....just ask if you can get it.
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the number on their website.....
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/12/breaking-from-hawaii-no-more-long-form-birth-certificates/
^ is this what you are referring to? if the link is true.....don't you find that a bit suspicious....?