Teacher instructs class to harrass student, suffers one day suspension

Topspin said:
these assclowns calling for the teachers job are the meathead dads screaming at their piss in thier pants kids while they are at bat.
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Bullshit. you're just a fucking idiot. Go roll around with some sweaty guys and trade grips. You know you like it
 
If we are going to fire this granny, we should kill every one of Tinfoil's teachers including the one who sold him the GED.
 
Unions are there to protect good teachers from being fired needlessly, they do not protect bad teachers, but do give them the tools to prove their innocence. I have seen many bad teachers fired from the Anchorage school district for various offenses.
 
Topspin said:
If we are going to fire this granny, we should kill every one of Tinfoil's teachers including the one who sold him the GED.
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But then to be fair, we'd have to find the homeboy that sold you yours.....and charge you with buying stolen property....
 
Rana said:
Unions are there to protect good teachers from being fired needlessly, they do not protect bad teachers, but do give them the tools to prove their innocence. I have seen many bad teachers fired from the Anchorage school district for various offenses.
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http://biggovernment.com/rnehring/2...akeover-of-state-capitol-building-next-month/

Documents call for takeover of Capitol, using kids and taxpayer-funded public classrooms for protest activities, controversial “secondary boycott” tactics

The California Teachers Association is preparing for Wisconsin-type activities aimed at forcing the legislature to pass tax increases on Californians in a series of actions planned for next month culminating in a takeover of the State Capitol.

Many of the steps outlined in CTA plans include the use of students, taxpayer-funded public school facilities to which the union has access, and highly controversial “secondary boycott” tactics that involve targeting businesses in the districts of legislators who refuse to accede to union demands.

The union is conducting its actions in support of taxes under the guise of a “State of Emergency.”

Our team believes the true “state of emergency” is in public education’s crushing bureaucracy, lack of choices and options offered to parents, and bizarre union-supported work rules that produce phenomena like New York City’s infamous “Rubber Room” where the city’s worst teachers go because they can’t be fired.

Union officials were clearly caught off guard today when our team circulated links to the union’s plans, which were posted on a non-descript website online.

Educate yourself...do some research on NYC's "rubber room".....California has a similar program costing taxpayers tens of millions of dollars....teachers being paid for 5 and ten years and don't set foot in a classroom...
 
bravo said:
http://biggovernment.com/rnehring/2...akeover-of-state-capitol-building-next-month/

Documents call for takeover of Capitol, using kids and taxpayer-funded public classrooms for protest activities, controversial “secondary boycott” tactics

The California Teachers Association is preparing for Wisconsin-type activities aimed at forcing the legislature to pass tax increases on Californians in a series of actions planned for next month culminating in a takeover of the State Capitol.

Many of the steps outlined in CTA plans include the use of students, taxpayer-funded public school facilities to which the union has access, and highly controversial “secondary boycott” tactics that involve targeting businesses in the districts of legislators who refuse to accede to union demands.

The union is conducting its actions in support of taxes under the guise of a “State of Emergency.”

Our team believes the true “state of emergency” is in public education’s crushing bureaucracy, lack of choices and options offered to parents, and bizarre union-supported work rules that produce phenomena like New York City’s infamous “Rubber Room” where the city’s worst teachers go because they can’t be fired.

Union officials were clearly caught off guard today when our team circulated links to the union’s plans, which were posted on a non-descript website online.

Educate yourself...do some research on NYC's "rubber room".....California has a similar program costing taxpayers tens of millions of dollars....teachers being paid for 5 and ten years and don't set foot in a classroom...
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OH Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...everyone knows how fair and hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonest Andrew Breitbart and his biggovernment.com website are...I bet if we were to dig, we'd find NO TRACE of RightWing propaganda or bias on that website...

Nice try Chachi...come back when you've got something CREDIBLE to post.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Cite?

I see no mention of teachers union involvement in the story you posted.
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Isn't bravo the conservative who always claims that kids these days are cuddled, that not all kids are created equal and that liberals use rewards to give kids a false sense of accomplishment? Why would he protest this teachers methods then? Has he changed his mind suddenly, does this mean he is now a liberal?
 
http://theunionlabelblog.com/2009/05/04/bad-teachers-cant-be-fired-thanks-to-union/

Bad Teachers Can’t Be Fired Thanks to Union

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teachers3-2009may03,0,679507.story


The L.A. Times has found that rotten teachers just can’t be fired because of the powerful California Teachers Union there. This shows, of course, that neither teachers as a body, nor unions care about our kids at all.

In one instance the Times found that a teacher that ridiculed an eighth-grader that tried to commit suicide by slashing his wrists, but failed. The teacher made fun of the kid saying that the boy “doesn’t even know how to commit suicide right”! The school tried to fire this creep but the union wouldn’t permit it.

It’s remarkably difficult to fire a tenured public school teacher in California, a Times investigation has found. The path can be laborious and labyrinthine, in some cases involving years of investigation, union grievances, administrative appeals, court challenges and re-hearings.

The long, sorry story is an important one. It shows that a knee jerk support of every accused teacher, fought to the hilt, is not in the student’s interests.

Sadly, however, this is the result of overly powerful unions, and school administrations and politicians that work hand in hand with them. In the end, the only people that are hurt are the kids.
 
Rana said:
Isn't bravo the conservative who always claims that kids these days are cuddled, that not all kids are created equal and that liberals use rewards to give kids a false sense of accomplishment? Why would he protest this teachers methods then? Has he changed his mind suddenly, does this mean he is now a liberal?
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I don't know where you dig up most of your bullshit, but....
bravo IS the conservative who always claims that kids should NEVER be abused, and thats especially true when the abuse is from teachers.....
 
bravo said:
http://theunionlabelblog.com/2009/05/04/bad-teachers-cant-be-fired-thanks-to-union/

Bad Teachers Can’t Be Fired Thanks to Union

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teachers3-2009may03,0,679507.story


The L.A. Times has found that rotten teachers just can’t be fired because of the powerful California Teachers Union there. This shows, of course, that neither teachers as a body, nor unions care about our kids at all.

In one instance the Times found that a teacher that ridiculed an eighth-grader that tried to commit suicide by slashing his wrists, but failed. The teacher made fun of the kid saying that the boy “doesn’t even know how to commit suicide right”! The school tried to fire this creep but the union wouldn’t permit it.

It’s remarkably difficult to fire a tenured public school teacher in California, a Times investigation has found. The path can be laborious and labyrinthine, in some cases involving years of investigation, union grievances, administrative appeals, court challenges and re-hearings.

The long, sorry story is an important one. It shows that a knee jerk support of every accused teacher, fought to the hilt, is not in the student’s interests.

Sadly, however, this is the result of overly powerful unions, and school administrations and politicians that work hand in hand with them. In the end, the only people that are hurt are the kids.
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Tenure

According to the pro-education reform documentary Waiting for ‘Superman,’ one out of every 57 doctors loses his or her license to practice medicine.

One out of every 97 lawyers loses their license to practice law.

In many major cities, only one out of 1000 teachers is fired for performance-related reasons. Why? Tenure.

Tenure is the practice of guaranteeing a teacher their job. Originally, this was a due process guarantee, something intended to work as a check against administrators capriciously firing teachers and replacing them with friends or family members. It was also designed to protect teachers who took political stands the community might disagree with. Tenure as we understand it today was first seen at the university level, where professors would work for years and publish many pieces of inspired academic work before being awarded what amounted to a job for life.
 
Rana said:
Unions are there to protect good teachers from being fired needlessly, they do not protect bad teachers, but do give them the tools to prove their innocence. I have seen many bad teachers fired from the Anchorage school district for various offenses.
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Unions are there to protect the union. To do so means they protect the tenured, good or bad. To do so requires the collections of dues and distribution of monies to the supporters of the unions:

http://dailycollegian.com/2010/04/26/unions-protect-bad-teachers-not-students/

...Teachers usually don’t have a choice on whether or not to join the unions in their districts. This is why unions hate non-unionized charter schools: especially the successful ones.

Teachers unions in Massachusetts have fought tooth and nail to keep the charter school caps low. They fought to keep Teach for America out of Boston last year despite the program’s accomplishments. The union argued new educators shouldn’t be hired in a recession which threatened teacher layoffs.

Ostensibly that seems fair. But, my guess is even in the best economic climate the union would reject Teach for America.

Termination is virtually non-existent among tenured teachers in the U. S. In New Jersey, about one in 20,000 teachers are fired annually. In Los Angeles, between 1995 and 2005 only 112 tenured teachers were fired. In 2003, the city graduated only half its high school seniors. Less than one percent of tenured teachers are fired each year in Dallas, Texas.

This is largely due to legal expenses firing tenured educators incurs, which can cost anywhere from $50,000 to $250,000 depending on the district. Furthermore, unions (particularly in urban districts) have diluted the teacher evaluation system making it almost impossible for a teacher to receive an “unsatisfactory” review.

Union leaders, like mafia bosses, are all about dough. Teachers shell out hundreds of dollars per year to feed the hungry union hierarchy. Union leaders earn six-figure salaries, which is exponentially more than many of the teachers they claim to represent. The fewer unionized teachers there are, the fewer dues these leaders can collect.

Essentially, tenure ensures contract-renewal for mediocre educators year after year. The ability principals have to remove these teachers from classrooms is extremely limited. Principles often cite union power for not firing teachers.

In 2007, the National Education Association contributed more than $80 million (20 percent of its budget) to largely left wing, non-education-related causes. That’s $80 million that could have benefited students. But why waste money on them with a blooming money tree growing in their backyard known as the taxpayers?

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It's sad that Annie and people like her justify unions protecting incompetent teachers. It proves you do not care if the children get good educations and you only care about the teachers

You guys suck
 
tinfoil said:
It's sad that Annie and people like her justify unions protecting incompetent teachers. It proves you do not care if the children get good educations and you only care about the teachers

You guys suck
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Oh certainly that's the implication of what I posted. :rolleyes:
 
tinfoil said:
It's sad that Annie and people like her justify unions protecting incompetent teachers. It proves you do not care if the children get good educations and you only care about the teachers

You guys suck
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LOL. Annie wasn't defending unions.
 
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