WOW, Petraeus said burning the Koran should be illegal? Really? THat is awfull.
Petraeus Says Quran Burning Endangers War Effort .
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WOW, Petraeus said burning the Koran should be illegal? Really? THat is awfull.
No, Yurtart, Betrayus doesn't say anthing about giving up our free speech rights in the video or the article. He said it was ir-responsible, which it was.
christiefan915
Catalyst
He didn't say it was illegal. That was just yurt hyperbole.
He said it was "hateful, extremely disrespectful and enormously intolerant."
christiefan915
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The opposite of what conservatives are trying to impose on liberals?
christiefan915
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If Afghans rioted after learning that some Americans were protesting the war, yurt would be on here screeching that we were "emboldening the enemy."
I have a couple of seconds so I'll wade in here. I didn't find anywhere where Petreaus said burning the koran should be "illegal." I found where he said it was irresponsible, placed our troops in danger, etc. but not "illegal." After reading this thread I have to agree with those i consider to be lefties on this one. We have freedom of speech in this country but with that freedom, when exercised in an irresponsible manner, comes consequences. This nut in Florida is learning that first hand. He is receiving death threats, there are protests in Afghanistan where at least 21 people have been killed,
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...threats-for-pastor-at-center-of-quran-burning
and who knows where the protests might further lead.
Now we have some crazy politicians who want to punish or take action against the "Pastor" for what he did....they are the bad guys in this freedom of speech issue, IMO, but not Petreaus.
http://nation.foxnews.com/koran/2011/04/04/senators-want-punish-koran-burning
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...threats-for-pastor-at-center-of-quran-burning
and who knows where the protests might further lead.
Now we have some crazy politicians who want to punish or take action against the "Pastor" for what he did....they are the bad guys in this freedom of speech issue, IMO, but not Petreaus.
http://nation.foxnews.com/koran/2011/04/04/senators-want-punish-koran-burning
Spot on. It's not about limiting or censoring speech; it's about a sense of responsbibility and understanding the consequences of what you choose to express...
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The Almighty
Why is that the one thing so many forget? With the right to free speech, we CAN say anything we want... but we should always consider the SHOULD WE say it? Patreaus is 100% correct. It was completely irresponsible and the idiots in FL should have known better. Their intolerance is also quite ironic given the religion they supposedly follow is supposed to be one of tolerance. Their actions are no less inexcusable than those of the radicals within Islam or Judaism etc.. How would they respond if someone bought a truck load of bibles and burned them one at a time in front of their church? (on the public sidewalk of course)
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They have already arrested 27 people for the riot and deaths, I don't see anybody here saying they shouldn't have been.
Don't be such a predictable simpleton. Motivation does not = justification.
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The Almighty
Yes, the ones who did the killing are certainly responsible for their radical actions. As is FL church responsible for their radical actions. The FL church has the right... but as Patreaus stated... they are 100% irresponsible for doing so and they are every bit as radical as those who did the killing.
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The Almighty
Tinfoil.... if you have a moment, do you think the FL church's actions were 'right'.... not legal (we all know they are legal).... but 'right'?
What possible good could come from burning a book? Especially one that is deemed holy to about 1/6 of the world's population.
What possible good could come from burning a book? Especially one that is deemed holy to about 1/6 of the world's population.
No, I don't think it was right. But it was even more incorrect for the news to report it and spread the word. It was even more incorrect for the savages to kill people over it. And it's even more incorrect for people to lay the blame onto the preacher for things other people did. they chose to react the way they did.
Can people attack the Phelps protestors and blame them for causing the violent acts agaisnt them?
I don't understand the kid gloves for muslim savages
Can people attack the Phelps protestors and blame them for causing the violent acts agaisnt them?
I don't understand the kid gloves for muslim savages
what good can come from protesting the ridiculous religion? Maybe people will stop believing in it. That would be good.
That they killed people over some paper burning should help.
The rest of the country who stood by and allowed the savages to do their thing are responsible. Are they muslims? then they deserve to be ridiculed
That they killed people over some paper burning should help.
The rest of the country who stood by and allowed the savages to do their thing are responsible. Are they muslims? then they deserve to be ridiculed
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The Almighty
I don't disagree with you on the reporting of the issue. Had the media not made a big deal out of a 30 member church's sign of bigotry and hate, it is unlikely the world would have even noticed. I also agree that murdering people due to such an event is barbaric.
I don't agree with either treating Muslims with kid gloves (as many do) nor do I agree with those who call them savages. For one, I doubt most of us (myself included) truly understand their culture or belief system. So it is hard to put myself in their place. The closest I can think of would be those assholes from KS protesting at the funerals. I purposely avoid going anywhere near those funerals, because I would likely beat the crap out of those assholes.... even though they have the right to protest, it again comes down to SHOULD YOU? It makes my blood boil when I see them, not to the point that I would kill, but I would likely break a few jaws.
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The Almighty
1) Calling the religion of a billion people 'ridiculous' is a sign of complete intolerance. The same intolerance being displayed by the radical element of the Islamic faith.
2) By your standards, we should all be held accountable by the actions of the extremists within our groups. That is insane.
their religion is what makes them ridiculous and I don't hesitate to call it what it is. Ridiculous. I think the bible thumpers are stupid, but they aren't allowed to go about killing people by their fellow christians (...anymore LOL crusades anyone?)
when the muslims act to stop their crazies, they will be lifted from the level of ridiculous
when the muslims act to stop their crazies, they will be lifted from the level of ridiculous
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Bottom line, everyone, adults must be careful about what they say and do in front of children. The 21st Century is much older than the the 7th Century, and we postmoderns must remember that we are the adults here. Make no mistake, we are dealing with children here, so always remember to watch what you say and do around the Muslims. Don't burn their coloring books, or tantrems will follow.