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Taichiliberal
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Our Dixie Dunce strikes again!
The following post demonstrates the sheer stupidity, dishonesty, and insipid stubborness that makes up our Dixie Dunce, folks.
Posts #42, 53, 66, 67, 69, 71, 73, 75
Pay close attention to one of Dixie's comparative examples between nuclear power and wind generated power on Post #42, truly mindboggling. Now let's watch Dixie either repeat the SOS six ways to Sunday or essentially lie/distort/take out of context what has previously transpired.
Taichiliberal
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You're wasting your time....this has been explained and documented to our Dixie Dunce several times, as the chronology of the posts shows. But in true willfully ignorant neocon fashion, DD just pretends that his myopic viewpoint and short sightedness is all that matters. Mind you, I asked him if he and his loved ones/family/friends were exposed to the same levels of radiation and told by the NRC/gov't officials that all is well because they didn't immediately die, would Dixie be so accepting of this attitude when he and his brethern starting showing up with cancers and such within two years? To date, no answer....but I suspect Dixie would (theoretically) die before admitting that the "libbies" were right on anything. But since it's not Dixie's flabby ass on the hot seat in Japan, he can afford his attitude.
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Right. So you are just going to reel off a bunch of post #'s and ignore the question again? And let's please stop with the accusations that I am being dishonest here, all I did was asked a question... you can not be 'dishonest' by asking a question, it's logically impossible!
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And here's the thing......neither you, Bravo, Dixie, Yurt or any of your peers can logically and factually fault what I'm stating here, much less disprove the evidence I link.
Again, this isn't just about ideology...this is about the FACTS and the dire consequences of ignoring those facts. God willing, you or I will never have to experience a 3 Mile Island or what is happening in Japan....but to advocate the continuing of construction of nuke plants as if what happened in Japan is in no way related to our facilities in America is just stubborn foolishness.
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Yeah Chicklet, you do that! Leave! Run away like a little girl, because you can't argue your points or make coherent sense... that's the best thing for you to do! It sure beats the hell out of repeating the same mindless nonsense over and over, like you've been doing.
You whine that no one acknowledges your "evidence" but what have you presented that isn't speculation and overblown overhyped rhetoric. The same idiotic anti-nuke rhetoric we've heard for 30 years, and the primary reason we haven't build a nuclear plant since Three Mile Island. We should invent a way to harness the hot air generated by the left... that would surely solve ALL potential energy needs for years to come!
You whine that no one acknowledges your "evidence" but what have you presented that isn't speculation and overblown overhyped rhetoric. The same idiotic anti-nuke rhetoric we've heard for 30 years, and the primary reason we haven't build a nuclear plant since Three Mile Island. We should invent a way to harness the hot air generated by the left... that would surely solve ALL potential energy needs for years to come!
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This is the reason why nobody takes you seriously on this issue, you just cannot separate emotion from objectivity. I have already stated more than once that 3rd generation nuclear reactors use a passive method of cooling and do not need separate diesel generators if the mains power goes. yet you just totally ignore that fact. As for nuclear waste, the spent fuel rods are recycled that is why they were in cooling ponds. They are left there to cool prior to being shipped to a reprocessing plant.
One other thing that ought to be mentioned, events like the earthquake last week are very rare. Dr. Roger Musson, a leading seismologist has stated that the last time an event of that magnitude occurred in this region was in 869AD. You act as if they are an everyday event, which again demonstrates your complete inability to assess risk objectively.
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PostmodernProphet
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LOFL, put it in Tom's backyard since another one won't hit for thousands of years. Assholes who get a safe feeling from some tool doing a risk assessment are hillarious. Bet no one factored the risk of a plane hitting the towers. Nukes are dogshit.
Taichiliberal
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This is the SECOND time you've LIED about what I wrote, Thomas. No where did I state or allude to the earthquake off Japan's coast as being frequent on any level, and I defy you to produce the post and quote (in it's entire context) where I did. If you can't, then you've AGAIN stooped to using the imbecilic tactics of our resident intellectually bankrupt neocon parrots. Despite our past dust ups, I'd thought better of you Thomas. Guess I was wrong.As to your reference to Dr. Musson......it's a moot point. Remember, you've had experts tell us that such events are so rare, they couldn't happen on a level to threaten the nuke facilities that were well protected against such things. Well, mother nature has a way of reminding mankind who's in charge...and with nuclear power plants it's not a matter of when it happens, but how. I can't speak for England, but in America we have nuke plants on fault lines that are theoretically built to withstand a 7 pt. scale quake. So if mother nature feels in an 8 pt. or above mood, the shit hits the fan and all those experts that were right for a few decades are either dead or living somewhere outside the danger zone avoiding interviews or making excuses. Ooops! Small comfort to the victims.
And then there's the matter of good old human greed, ego and arrogance. Here's again is some information that you can try to ignore:
SAN ONOFRE: Regulatory commission had concerns about generators at nuclear plant
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sd...589b063e6.html
Tokyo Electric to Build US Nuclear Plants
The no-BS info on Japan's disastrous nuclear operators
http://www.gregpalast.com/no-bs-info...axpayer-funds/
Oh, and for the love of God please refrain from using Wiki-pedia as a source.....I mean, damn lame on your part Thomas.
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Taichiliberal
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As usual the Post Modern Fool offers nothing of substance to the discussion but his intellectually PMP frustrated barking.
Again, this isn't just about ideology...this is about the FACTS and the dire consequences of ignoring those facts. God willing, you or I will never have to experience a 3 Mile Island or what is happening in Japan....but to advocate the continuing of construction of nuke plants as if what happened in Japan is in no way related to our facilities in America is just stubborn foolishness...but given the inane chuckling of PMP, I can expect nothing else. Let's watch him repeat his folly in various ways.
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In England, you are never more than about 60 miles away from a nuclear power plant.
Here is a little factoid for you, in the US there have been more deaths caused from wind turbines than from nuclear power stations. So should all wind turbines be banned as being inherently dangerous?
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As to your reference to Dr. Musson......it's a moot point. Remember, you've had experts tell us that such events are so rare, they couldn't happen on a level to threaten the nuke facilities that were well protected against such things. Well, mother nature has a way of reminding mankind who's in charge...and with nuclear power plants it's not a matter of when it happens, but how. I can't speak for England, but in America we have nuke plants on fault lines that are theoretically built to withstand a 7 pt. scale quake. So if mother nature feels in an 8 pt. or above mood, the shit hits the fan and all those experts that were right for a few decades are either dead or living somewhere outside the danger zone avoiding interviews or making excuses. Ooops! Small comfort to the victims.
And then there's the matter of good old human greed, ego and arrogance. Here's again is some information that you can try to ignore:
SAN ONOFRE: Regulatory commission had concerns about generators at nuclear plant
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sd...589b063e6.html
Tokyo Electric to Build US Nuclear Plants
The no-BS info on Japan's disastrous nuclear operators
http://www.gregpalast.com/no-bs-info...axpayer-funds/
Oh, and for the love of God please refrain from using Wiki-pedia as a source.....I mean, damn lame on your part Thomas.
China expects to have 20 AP1000 reactors by 2020, there are also 7 planned in the US. As you are so fond of wind turbines, are you aware that a typical 1 MW turbine actually only produces around 1/3 MW and you would need over 6000 to replace just one 2 GW nuclear power station? So in the UK, which has a baseload of around 60 GW, you would need nearly 200,000 to provide that output. In the USA, I imagine that the figure would well over 1 million. Wind power would make more sense if there was a national grid, as we have in the UK, so that electricity could sent to where its needed to try to balance out the variablity factor of wind power. This is not a cheap option however, even at a conservative estimate it will take over $100 billion and decades to achieve.
Finally, I doubt that you will listen but is it possible for you to post anything that doesn't refer to neocons, parrots or chronology? You just seem to have this emotion fuelled agitprop posting style that does you no favours.
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Taichiliberal
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Once again, folks...Thomas displays the intellectual dishonesty that is a-typical of the die hard nuke power wonk.
As the chronology of the posts shows, Thomas kept harping on about these new technologies that would prevent the current problems we see in nuke plants. I asked Thomas TWICE as to list how many CURRENTLY OPERATING nuclear plants (domestic or international) have this wonderous techonology he's so proud of.
Thomas could not name one.
Instead, he keeps squawking about PROPOSALS for 8 years or more down the line in America and China and what looks good on the drawing board. That doesn't mean a damned thing to the people who are living with and will live with the current series of nuclear plants that share similar technological and/or geographical flaws of the Fukushima plants.
Well, the world does not have much control over what China or a very honest account of their trial and errors regarding tech development, ecological impact, failures, mishaps, etc. And right now in America, all proposals for previously promised new nuke plants are being given a STERN looking at by our Congress...so NOTHING is guaranteed.
My point....again....is that Thomas avoids and denies ANY valid, documented evidence that points to the deadly and potentially deadly circumstances regarding our current nuclear power industry....and the significance/correlation of what is happening in Fukushima to the rest of the worlds nuclear power plants. And when his stubborn denials become painfully apparent, Thomas then tries to slander the people he can't BS past, as he did TWICE here with me.
See Thomas, you might be able sell your BS in a conversation, as people may not be able to remember all that you've said or be baited to divert from a valid point....but with the chonology of the posts will expose your failed ploys everytime.
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There has been no significant increase in deaths from cancer among residents near the site of America's worst nuclear accident, according to a 20-year follow-up study. This confounds your hysterical and emotion laden rant about cancer rates in the surrounding area. Despite how you try to portray me, I have never been a gung ho nuclear flag waver but I understand that there is no realistic alternative to its deployment. Most technologies incur risk, if we had listened to people like you then jet aircraft, space exploration, cars and a myriad others would never have got off the drawing board.
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Once again, folks...Thomas displays the intellectual honesty that is a-typical of the die hard nuke power supporter....and
As the chronology of the posts shows, TC is owned, pwned, and boned..........................................................................again !
:lol:,,,,,,,.......... but keeps on
until we're all bored to death
Taichiliberal
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See folks, Thomas STILL has not mustered the intellectual honesty to acknowledge the point made in the last post. So like all good little company wonks, Thomas backpeddles and repeats the time honored and factually inaccurate claim by the nuke industry regarding deaths and 3 Mile Island.
I already posted information that at the least cast serious doubt to the "official" conclusion regarding 3 Mile Island. Thomas has chosen to employ his usual willful ignorance regarding this information, but the truth just won't go away.
Cancer death rate age 0-9, 1980-2002, 45% above U.S. (35 deaths)
Cancer incidence rate age 0-14, 1993-2002, 17% above U.S. (86 cases)
Infant death rate, age 0-27 days, 1979-2002, 23% above U.S. (600 deaths)
Child death rate, age 1-14, 1979-2002, 13% above U.S. (187 deaths)*
Rate of births under 5 ½ lbs, 2000-2002, 37% above U.S. (994 births)
http://www.radiation.org/press/tmi1105.html
You have to ask yourself folks, if Thomas would stoicly adhere to the nuke power dogma if it his kid was one of those statistics....would Thomas be so cavalier as to call it "no significant increase"?
Thomas, your intellectual dishonesty on this subject has gone from stubborn to pathological....no wonder you gave a thumbs up to the ramblings of our Dixie Dunce...you're as proudly dumb as he is on this.