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The Almighty
The above is quite comical given the hateful rhetoric being spewed all over this thread is from the LEFT and not the right.
Republicans showing their true colors and true intent
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The above is quite comical given the hateful rhetoric being spewed all over this thread is from the LEFT and not the right.
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WinterBorn
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Its a good thing we all agreed to tone down the "hate speech", isn't it?
Bfgrn
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Why should you folks on the right complain. It's like Christmas, New Years and Easter wrapped up in one...right wing authoritarians are taking over in Wisconsin and Michigan. They are using massive government intervention to punish and crush the evil elements in our society...the bloodsuckers; lazy ass schoolteachers, nurses, and public employees, middle class families and retirees.
And the icing on the cake...more tax breaks and tax shelters for the rich and opulent whose assholes you yearn to lick.
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WinterBorn
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Thats it Bfoon, start with a gross, sensationalistic piece of bullshit, and then push even farther with vague generalizations and partisan nonsense.
Yep, glad we agreed to limit the hostile speech.
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The Almighty
This is truly comical. How do you expect anyone to 'debate' anything with you when you being a thread running around screaming.... 'u all nazis, u all nazis'????
You have absolutely no fucking clue what you are talking about.
ROFLMAO..... wow, you truly are full of shit.
You say people cannot defend conservatism without diminishing others.... yet, you are here attempting to equate conservatives with nazis because that is how you 'defend' your views????
How is being conservative.... 'anti-democratic'???? Do explain that to us, oh wise one.
also, you said in the last 30 years we have only torn things down.... do explain then the tech revolution we witnessed. Do explain the fall of the USSR, advancements in medicine, advancements in genetics etc... do explain how it is that our 'poor' can possess cell phones, tv's etc...
Please stop. The irony is far too thick. Again, you make foolish statements like the above, all the while comparing conservatives to Nazi's. Do you truly not see the irony?
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The Almighty
I didn't complain. I mocked you for your ignorance. I mocked him for posting a comic showing how Republicans 'hate' everyone on a thread where you displayed profound ignorance in comparing Rep's to Nazi's... one of the most hateful groups to ever exist.
You spout off hateful rhetoric, nothing more.
You pretend duly elected officials enacting laws are 'evil' simply because you don't like the laws. You are a pathetic fool. I actually pity idiots like you who so obviously have nothing to offer society... thus you lash out with your hate filled rhetoric.
You are a sad fool.
Bfgrn
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I pity people like you who have no moral compass. You have no concern for fellow Americans, unless they are rich and opulent. THEN it is egregious and immoral to ask them to share the pain. You continued over and over to build a false case of union malfeasance in Wisconsin where there is none. Where the evidence is beyond doubt that the malfeasance we have in America is corporations and the elite who have no allegiance to this country, just their own bank account.
It is way beyond ironic that the term 'entitlement' has been pinned on the middle class and poor by conservative rhetors who have made owning words and language a priority. The first 200+ years of our nation the term "entitlement" referred to aristocrats. Aristocrats had titles, and they thought that they were thereby entitled to various things, particularly the deference of the common people.
The thing that floors me, is all of you right wing parrots constantly defend an aristocracy, plutocracy and hierarchy while constantly demeaning democracy. When someone recites the words 'all men are created equal' you right wingers add the caveat; 'but not equal outcomes' THAT is because you don't believe in democracy, you believe in heirarchy. WHY is it so hard for you folks to see it? Probably because you have become so brainwashed that you can't see it seething from every phrase. The one thing I've learned from talking to you right wing parrots is the self righteousness that completely eliminates what are liberal tenets; empathy; the ability to see things from another mans station, self examination and self moderation. Dogma has no room for those human values.
Minister of Truth
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Our concern, Bfguiehiebq, is for anyone who's rights are being circumvented, to include their God-given property rights, such as ownership of businesses, investments, cash, and other assets. A true American loves the rights of his neighbours first and foremost, because that is what America IS. That is why conservatives continue to support lower taxes, smaller bureaucracy, less regulation (particularly of small businesses), and less government intrusion.
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The Almighty
I could care less what you think. Your sense of 'moral compass' is to belittle what the people who suffered at the hands of the Nazi's went through. So to be quite frank.... your 'moral compass' falls somewhere between 'murderer' and 'rapist'.
Your pathetic attempts to propagate the above line of bullshit is really growing quite old.
Again, nothing in anything I have ever said would suggest that is the case for what I believe. No matter how many times you try to make that straw man real.... it's still just a bunch of straw.
You really should look up the definitions of words before you try to use them. You simply continue to provide further evidence that you are indeed a moron.
In no way did I state there was union malfeasance. None.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Conservatism doesn't "believe" anything, it is a belief itself! It has nothing to do with what you claim, nor does it seek to create fear or categorize people into "groups!" That would be what LIBERALS do!
....Except those who make over $250k a year... they are evil rich people who took advantage of the poor to gain wealth, and they must be punished!!!
Here's the difference as I see it, Conservatives believe our rights are endowed by the Creator, and not granted by man. We believe that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL! Liberals don't believe in God, and thus, can't believe that all men are created, much less, equally. They believe it is their obligation to determine who is equal and who is not equal, and manipulate 'fairness' accordingly. They will often use class warfare strategies to advance their ideas of fairness.
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your citation, as i said, has NOTHING to do with this bill. your understanding of the law is grossly ignorant.
further, YOU are the one who made the claims, it is up to YOU to provide law to support your claim. the only case you've provided actually supports this bill and capt completely owned you on that issue.
its hilarious to watch you now demand others show you where in the constitution it says they can do something, but when you are asked to show where in the constitution we can have obamacare, you go batshit crazy and cite the general welfare clause. i don't have to prove what they are doing is constitutional, YOU have to prove what they are doing is not.
and you haven't. see the way this works is, if a state passes a law and its unconstitutional, YOU have to bring a claim showing HOW it is unconstitutional. then the state rebuts. but you can't take the state to court and simply say: its unconstitutional, so you prove it is. the burden is on the movant, YOU. you have also ignored the laws i gave you, but that is pretty much all you ever do with anyone who disagrees with you, you ignore their cites, but i'll give you credit for admitting you fucked up with the case citation.
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WinterBorn
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Excuse me? I think you have it backwards.
Conservatives are pro 2nd amendment. Most of the gun control measures are liberal in origin. Who is it that thinks people are basically evil and who trusts the individual?
Conservatives are pro equal rights, while liberals want to give "special" rights to select groups.
Liberals believe that individuals aren't smart enough to take care of themselves, and so the state should do it.
You have it backwards, which does not surprise me.
Topspin
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Your generalizations are so lazy.
All, liberals, all the time, how ridiculous, talk about a partisan hack!
You insult your own intelligence when you write these things, at times you seem rational and well spoken, when you go off on this bullshit, well, it takes away a lot of your credibility.
Internment camps for liberals, is that also one of your great ideas?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Hey, I merely addressed a generalization with another generalization... I agree, we are all individuals, with individual motivations, goals, objectives, reasons for why we believe the way we do. But I do believe what I said is true for a large majority on the left and right, I think it comes down to a fundamental difference in how we understand the fundamentals of the nation itself. Conservatives tend to believe we are not granted rights by a court or by man, but rather, we are ENDOWED with these, by something greater than man, and these can't be taken away. Liberals don't necessarily believe that... they generally determine that this group over here is at a disadvantage, and that group over there, are at an advantage... they must do the work of the Creator themselves, and make things fair and even for all men, because they certainly aren't "created" that way.
Sorry, that's just where I see the difference is, when it comes to those who are Liberal and those who are Conservative.... maybe my perception is wrong.... maybe it is 'politically incorrect' or 'judgmental' or whatever... but that's what I see in how people act. I am just pointing it out here. Don't shoot the messenger!!
It is the way you "see it", it doesn't mean it is the way it is. It is your perception! I am sure not all conservatives share you views or feel that our rights are endowed, nor do all liberals thing as you have stated, not even close.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Again.... As I said, I am not arguing that we aren't all individuals, we all have our different reasons for why we hold liberal or conservative views, and this is not intended to be a 'broad brush' application of a generalization.... I realize that's a hard thing for a liberal to comprehend, since you are all the time putting people in boxes, categorizing entire classes, singling out specific groups... but that was not my intent, nor how I see it. I am quite sure that some conservatives don't have religious faith, and some liberals have a bunch... but I do believe that is the defining difference in most cases, between the liberal philosophy and the conservative philosophy... that's all I was saying.