Republicans showing their true colors and true intent

Schadenfreude said:
actually he used a reproduction of the soviet unions flag - star and hammer and sickle

and no i do not think that it is a bit much
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He changed the picture about halfway thru the conversation. Originally it was a large swastika.
 
back to the OP, those not from Michigan should be made aware that the state has always had the power to take over failing school districts and municipalities......they did it with the Detroit school system decades ago, the city of Benton Harbor and I believe something in Flint, don't remember if it was the schools or the city....

when it happened a committee of legislators and their staff members were charged with handling it.....

this act permits the legislators to hire professionals to do it instead.....

personally, I think that's a good idea.....it's the sort of thing I expected Snyder (founder of Gateway Computers) to come up with when I voted for him.....
 
Threedee said:
Our concern, Bfguiehiebq, is for anyone who's rights are being circumvented, to include their God-given property rights, such as ownership of businesses, investments, cash, and other assets. A true American loves the rights of his neighbours first and foremost, because that is what America IS. That is why conservatives continue to support lower taxes, smaller bureaucracy, less regulation (particularly of small businesses), and less government intrusion.
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Congratulations, you have composed something that is beyond throwing peanuts from the gallery. Now work of getting my name right.

Now, please explain HOW a law that gives Governor Snyder the power to circumvent the people and all democratic processes, that gives one man the power to fire local elected officials, break contracts, seize and sell assets, eliminate services, even eliminate whole cities or school districts without any public input IS smaller bureaucracy, less regulation, and less government intrusion???

Maybe we need to start with some definitions of what a democratic republic is and what an aristocracy or a monarchy is.

Abraham Lincoln eloquently defined the essence of America; government OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people.

What we are seeing in Wisconsin and Michigan is government dictating TO the people. Liberals AND conservatives should be appalled by this kind of government intrusion! But all I hear from conservatives is EXCUSES and JUSTIFICATION for GROSS government intrusion by Walker and Snyder, and a total embrace of THAT type of heavy handed, power of ONE government.

THAT is embracing an aristocracy, monarchy and hierarchy...which is and has always been the CORE of conservatism since man first walked the earth.
 
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WinterBorn said:
Excuse me? I think you have it backwards.

Conservatives are pro 2nd amendment. Most of the gun control measures are liberal in origin. Who is it that thinks people are basically evil and who trusts the individual?

Conservatives are pro equal rights, while liberals want to give "special" rights to select groups.

Liberals believe that individuals aren't smart enough to take care of themselves, and so the state should do it.



You have it backwards, which does not surprise me.
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Conservatives are pro equal rights?
 
christiefan915 said:
Conservatives are pro equal rights?
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Both sides have some issues with equal rights. But yes, conservatives are as pro equal rights as libs.

Mainly though, you might do some research on the civil rights legislation in the 1960s.
 
WinterBorn said:
Both sides have some issues with equal rights. But yes, conservatives are as pro equal rights as libs.

Mainly though, you might do some research on the civil rights legislation in the 1960s.
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Yea, it was proposed by a liberal President, John F. Kennedy and it was opposed by southern conservatives.
 
Rana said:
Your generalizations are so lazy.

All, liberals, all the time, how ridiculous, talk about a partisan hack!

You insult your own intelligence when you write these things, at times you seem rational and well spoken, when you go off on this bullshit, well, it takes away a lot of your credibility.

Internment camps for liberals, is that also one of your great ideas?
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Was Hitler a Libertarian? :good4u:
 
Bfgrn said:
Yea, it was proposed by a liberal President, John F. Kennedy and it was opposed by southern conservatives.
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Southern democrats opposed it.

From: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/12/13/194350.shtml

"In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes."



Also, when you actively promote special rights for some, you cannot call yourself pro equal rights.
 
WinterBorn said:
Southern democrats opposed it.

From: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/12/13/194350.shtml

"In the 26 major civil rights votes after 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 percent of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 percent of the votes."



Also, when you actively promote special rights for some, you cannot call yourself pro equal rights.
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The Dixiecrats may have been Democrats, but it doesn't mean they were liberals. They were conservatives. Some of them became Republicans after the 1964 Civil Rights bill like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms.

The States' Rights Democratic Party (commonly known as the Dixiecrats) was a shortlived segregationist, socially conservative political party in the United States. It originated as a breakaway faction of the Democratic Party in 1948, determined to protect what they portrayed as the Southern way of life beset by an oppressive federal government. wiki
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Politics and Public Service, 1948-Present

President Franklin Roosevelt's electoral body in 1945 had included a diverse, in fact contradictory, set of elements — both conservatives and liberals, northern and southern Democrats and Republicans. By 1948, however, the civil rights issue revealed the real philosophical differences between northern and southern Democrats as never before. The move of Southern states from solidly Democrat to solidly Republican began to take place. In that environment, the Dixiecrats and the “Southern Strategy” was born.

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1751.html
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Also, your New Max article failed to mention some important facts about John F. Kennedy and Richard M Nixon.

Coretta King Carries On
From Coretta Scott King: A Woman of Peace by Paula Taylor

Shortly before Dexter was born, Coretta again feared for her husband's life. He was arrested for leading a sit-in at a lunch counter in Atlanta. For this minor offense, the judge handed down a harsh sentence of 6 months hard labor at the State Penitentiary.

Coretta was terribly upset. The penitentiary was 300 miles from the Kings' home in Atlanta. Pregnant and with 2 small children, she could rarely make the 8-hour trip to visit her husband. She knew how black prisoners were treated in southern jails. Martin might be beaten--or worse.

Before lawyers had time to appeal the judge's decision, Martin was roughly dragged from his Atlanta jail cell. He was chained and handcuffed. In the middle of the night, he was taken to the penitentiary.

When Coretta heard what had happened, she was distraught. Just as she was about to give up hope, the telephone rang. "Just a moment, Mrs. King," the long-distance operator said, "Senator John F. Kennedy wants to speak to you."

"How are you, Mrs. King?" a warm voice inquired. After chatting a few minutes about her family and the new baby they were expecting, Senator Kennedy told Coretta he was concerned about Martin's arrest. "Let me know if there's anything I can do to help," he told her. The next day, Martin was released.

Two years later, Coretta had another talk with John Kennedy. By then he was President. Martin had been jailed in Birmingham. Coretta was not allowed to see or even phone him. Fearing the worst, she called the White House. Once again, Kennedy came to the rescue, and Martin was freed.
http://dsp.fullcoll.edu/ACL/ImpColRead/read%201.htm

Nixon's Southern Strategy

"The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. And that's where the votes are"
Kevin Phillips - Formerly a Republican Party strategist. Phillips also was partly responsible for the design of the Republican "Southern strategy" of the 1970s and 1980s.

7/14/2005
GOP: 'We were wrong' to play racial politics
By Richard Benedetto, USA TODAY

Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman apologized to one of the nation's largest black civil rights groups Thursday, saying Republicans had not done enough to court blacks in the past and had exploited racial strife to court white voters, particularly in the South.

"Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South. Beginning in the mid-1960s, Republicans encouraged disaffected Southern white voters to vote Republican by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats for racial unrest and other racial problems.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-07-14-GOP-racial-politics_x.htm
 
Damn Yankee said:
No, just Southern Democrats.
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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Civil Rights Act of 1964

By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

* Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
* Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)

* Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
* Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)

The Senate version:

* Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
* Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
* Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
* Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

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