Madison police chief, mayor ask governor to explain 'troubling' statements

Yurt said:
have you ever been in a business meeting or any other kind of meeting? if someone floats an idea, you can't help but think about it....you can however quash the idea....which is what he did

you're like those mind control freaks in that tom cruise movie
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Would you suggest to a client in a business meeting that they consider committing a criminal act?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Like hell. Such acts, as what was considered, are illegal. Scott Walker may be the Governor of Wisconsin but he is not above the law. If someone on Walkers staff was proposing a criminal act and a criminal act was considered, even if rejected, then the authorities have a duty to investigate those activities.
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My wife told me to drive over the speed limit today...I should have her arrested....right?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Would you suggest to a client in a business meeting that they consider committing a criminal act?
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red herring....

are you claiming the governor suggested someone commit a criminal act? because all we have is that the idea was thrown out there and the governor rejected the idea. if you have something that shows he suggested it.....you would have a point. until then, you have squat.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Would you suggest to a client in a business meeting that they consider committing a criminal act?
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"planting troublemakers among the thousands of demonstrators at the Capitol."

Thats a criminal act?....you're a pinhead....

The Democrats already admitted to planting 'troublemakers' at the tea party rallies and I didn't see any arrests, did you?

They sent assholes to Sarah Palin speeches to disrupt them, see any arrests there?

they have union thugs beat up tea party protesters with the proof on video...see any arrests there?

These aren't just ideas, these are actually events....
 
this police chief should probably shut his mouth. he isn't the brightest bulb in the bunch either, saying he'd draw down and arrest anyone open carrying a gun, according to the law, and THEN decide if that person had the right.
 
bravo said:
"planting troublemakers among the thousands of demonstrators at the Capitol."

Thats a criminal act?....you're a pinhead....

The Democrats already admitted to planting 'troublemakers' at the tea party rallies and I didn't see any arrests, did you?

They sent assholes to Sarah Palin speeches to disrupt them, see any arrests there?

they have union thugs beat up tea party protesters with the proof on video...see any arrests there?

These aren't just ideas, these are actually events....
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You need to provide PROOF and links bravo.

This man is the Governor of a state. We have PROOF Walker contemplated placing thugs in a crowd of peaceful protesters. He decided against it, not because it was wrong, but because:

"... My only fear would be is if there was a ruckus caused that that would scare the public into thinking maybe the governor has got to settle to avoid all these problems."
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You consider it encouraging that someone would consider unethical and immoral behavior as long as they reject it? That's pretty warped reasoning PMP.
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sigh....Mott, what's warped is your insinuation that he "considered" it.....do you have evidence he at any time entertained a possibility of accepting it?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....don't pretend this thread is about proof.....
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There is a recording of Gov Walker talking to who he thinks is billionaire David Koch. It is PROOF Walker considered placing thugs in a crowd of schoolteachers, nurses, fire fighters, guys who drive snowplows and their families. And he also admits WHY he didn't do it...not because it is wrong, not because it is immoral, not because it is unethical and not because people might get hurt or worse. He makes it clear why he didn't do it:
"... My only fear would be is if there was a ruckus caused that that would scare the public into thinking maybe the governor has got to settle to avoid all these problems."
 
bravo said:
Bad ideas are put forth every second of every minute by someone somewhere....its irrelevant.....the story is...GOOD TRIUMPHS OVER EVIL...

:lmao: I don't expect pinheads to understand ethics even on this simple scale...
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You oafs are freaking unbelievable.

I remember when you all raked Shirley Sherrod over the coals a few months ago because she thought about not helping a white farmer.

Now that the shoe's on the other foot, suddenly you're all ethical and self-congratulatory about Walker.

Your double standards are pathetic. :mad:
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Like hell. Such acts, as what was considered, are illegal. Scott Walker may be the Governor of Wisconsin but he is not above the law. If someone on Walkers staff was proposing a criminal act and a criminal act was considered, even if rejected, then the authorities have a duty to investigate those activities.
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You are such a complete HACK.

You are pretending that the idea of inserting 'troublemakers' is equivalent to breaking the law.

Now I know this is the first thing Democrats think of, given their natural propensity to destroy property at their 'rallies', but that does not mean the 'idea' was in violation of any law.

I could go to a rally and start chants that would garner support from union workers, but would appear poorly to the general public. That would be creating 'trouble', but would most certainly not be illegal.

I could go to the rally and chant counter points that would stir up the opposing side in the hopes of watching them implode. This too would not be illegal.

But no, you go into your pathetic 'he is proposing a criminal act' bullshit.

As stated, you are a complete HACK.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Give me a fucking break. You're trying to tell me that Walker was just "testing people"? That the people of Wisconsin shouldn't be alarmed that their Governor considered committing a crime? That they should find it refreshing that their States chief law enforcement officer considered committing a crime but fucking rejected the idea?

I don't know what fucked up world you live in but if my Governor is considering committing a crime of any kind, I would find the notion deeply disturbing!

I mean think how fucked up that is on a personal level? "Hey my kid considered robbing a gas station today but rejected the idea. Isn't that refreshing?"

Give me a fucking break man.
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Tell us moron.... WHAT fucking crime did he consider?

You are equating 'troublemakers' to 'breaking the law'.... tell us how you jumped to that conclusion.

Oh yeah, your Dem masters told you that is what they meant.

People have bad thoughts all the time. It IS a good thing when they refuse to act on them. But I know, you have never had a bad thought. Never considered what you might be able to get away with. You pathetic HACK.
 
I see we have more character assassination by the liberals here of the governor who is trying to save union jobs. :palm:
 
Bfgrn said:
You need to provide PROOF and links bravo.

This man is the Governor of a state. We have PROOF Walker contemplated placing thugs in a crowd of peaceful protesters. He decided against it, not because it was wrong, but because:

"... My only fear would be is if there was a ruckus caused that that would scare the public into thinking maybe the governor has got to settle to avoid all these problems."
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No, I don't...you need to read some newspapers and listen to some tv other than MSNBC....all this stuff happened over the past couple of years and I'm not gonna hunt for old news stories to satisfy you.
 
christiefan915 said:
You oafs are freaking unbelievable.

I remember when you all raked Shirley Sherrod over the coals a few months ago because she thought about not helping a white farmer.

Now that the shoe's on the other foot, suddenly you're all ethical and self-congratulatory about Walker.

Your double standards are pathetic. :mad:
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Yeah..You oafs are freaking unbelievable, and pathetic.

You're wrong again...she didn't help the white farmer...as she herself said.



So I took him to a white lawyer that had attended some of the training that we had provided.... I figured if I take him to one of them, that his own kind would take care of him.

she acted like a typical racist....

I can't imagine a white person saying "I took the black guy to one of his own kind for help" and not be accused to racism...

The fact that she had a change of heart is noted... she did in fact, eventually help the guy..." I went all out to frantically look for a lawyer at the last minute because the first lawyer we went to was not doing anything to really help him. "

Its like robbing a bank and the giving the money back....returning the money doesn't absolve the robbery.
 
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bravo said:
No, I don't...you need to read some newspapers and listen to some tv other than MSNBC....all this stuff happened over the past couple of years and I'm not gonna hunt for old news stories to satisfy you.
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Fine, then the only PROOF we have on record is Gov Walker contemplated placing thugs in a crowd of schoolteachers, fireman, nurses, snowplow drivers and their families who were staging a peaceful demonstration. And that the only reason he didn't was because:

"... My only fear would be is if there was a ruckus caused that that would scare the public into thinking maybe the governor has got to settle to avoid all these problems."
 
Superfreak said:
Tell us moron.... WHAT fucking crime did he consider?

You are equating 'troublemakers' to 'breaking the law'.... tell us how you jumped to that conclusion.

Oh yeah, your Dem masters told you that is what they meant.

People have bad thoughts all the time. It IS a good thing when they refuse to act on them. But I know, you have never had a bad thought. Never considered what you might be able to get away with. You pathetic HACK.
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Now, now Superfreak, don't you find it disturbing that a GOVERNOR, who is sworn to protect and serve wouldn't even think about doing this, knowing that trouble making often leads to violence and the GOVERNOR of a state should not put his people at risk. He took an oath to serve, and this would not be a good service. The reason to put trouble makers in the crowd is to make them unruly so that you can turn the police or guard on them, and have a reason to disband them and make them the bad guys.

It is good that he decided not to act on this suggestion, it is sad that he did it for the wrong reasons.

It is also good that he is being investigated for this. I would want this of both Democrat and Republican and I am no party hack. I was a Libertarian for almost a year!:whoa:
 
Rana said:
Now, now Superfreak, don't you find it disturbing that a GOVERNOR, who is sworn to protect and serve wouldn't even think about doing this, knowing that trouble making often leads to violence and the GOVERNOR of a state should not put his people at risk. He took an oath to serve, and this would not be a good service. The reason to put trouble makers in the crowd is to make them unruly so that you can turn the police or guard on them, and have a reason to disband them and make them the bad guys.
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LMAO.... yeah... because politicians NEVER think about things like this... ever.

Again, there are plenty of reasons to put trouble makers in the crowd. There are many routes you could take with that 'thought'. Bottom line... he did the right thing. He didn't do it.

I wonder if the left can make the same claim? Did they do the ethical thing?

Running and hiding out of state? UNETHICAL and a direct violation of their duties to the people of Wisconsin.

Calling in a massive 'sick out' to the detriment of students... unethical.... and actually acted upon.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO.... yeah... because politicians NEVER think about things like this... ever.

Again, there are plenty of reasons to put trouble makers in the crowd. There are many routes you could take with that 'thought'. Bottom line... he did the right thing. He didn't do it.

I wonder if the left can make the same claim? Did they do the ethical thing?

Running and hiding out of state? UNETHICAL and a direct violation of their duties to the people of Wisconsin.

Calling in a massive 'sick out' to the detriment of students... unethical.... and actually acted upon.
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How about the doctors who wrote medical excuses for the strikers?
 
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