Topspin
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they took your dumbass obviously they don't require much. Hopefully you at least took the GI bill and got in your local community college for your trade.
Tennessee bill would jail Shariah followers
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they took your dumbass obviously they don't require much. Hopefully you at least took the GI bill and got in your local community college for your trade.
Excuse me! A few murdering fanatics claiming to be Christian is not equal to a religious system of Law that states emphatically that it is OK for a husband to beat; mutilate and or kill a woman!
Everything is relative....
There are 18 year old kids that are responsible for multi-million dollar aircraft, and the lives of their pilots, while you invest pennies for peasants in Louisiana....so sit down, lad.
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WinterBorn
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Oh really? Would you care to share any posts I have made that show that? Or is it just wishful thinking?
Actually, I have little to no tolerance for anyone who kills in the name of any religion. But I also don't tolerate small-minded jerks who claim one religion is evil while excusing members of their own faith of similar crimes.
Maybe we'll call you "JAROD II" just to recognize your achievements...
is that ok with you.....Topspin-JAROD II.....looks good in print.
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WinterBorn
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No it is not. But neither is the wholesale condemnation of an entire faith based on the actions of a tiny minority. There are already laws against mutilations, domestic violence, and murder. If the bill only stops Sharia Law from being used as a defense, I have no problems with that. If, however, it bans activities that are not harmful, simply because they are part of Sharia Law, or if people want to lie and claim one religion is evil while theirs is 100% wholesome, I have a problem.
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The question was asked when did any christian commit "honor killings". Since that is not a tenet of christianity, it was a bogus question. But it did open up the topic of christians committing murders in the name of their faith. I would say that violent christians are an extreme minority within their faith, but then so are muslims who commit honor killings.
It was a condemnation of Sharia Law-not Islamic faith...we already have Laws to govern persons in this country.
My problem was with your comparison which on its face is false.
Thats it?while you mopped the deck village people lover.
I bring the oil your navy ship uses.
You can't even be clever?
You bring the oil ?....I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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WinterBorn
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No, it was not false. My post was made as a reply to "When was the last time a Christian did an honor killing in the name of his religion?".
Now, the "honor killing" part does not exist in christianity, which makes the question bogus. But there have been numerous murders in the name of a christian's religion.
I condemn the parts of Sharia Law that are harmful to a person, but not all of Sharia Law (as I understand it) are harmful.
The muslims I know condemn "honor killings" as vehemently as I, as a christian, condemn murders in the name of our God.
People who claim the name of Christ in order to commit murder is not equal to a faith that claims LAW to perpetrate murder and mutilations-you gave a bogus comparison~ That's the point. The OP is about Sharia Law in the US- it was not about the "wholesale condemnation" of Islamic faith.
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WinterBorn
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And the wholesale condemnation of Sharia Law is wrong. Creating laws to prevent Sharia Law from being used as a defense from prosecution for breaking US laws is not a problem. The problem is that Sharia Law is not only about honor killings or other things that are crimes here. It also governs prayer, fasting, paying of a poor tax, and other topics which do not conflict with our laws.
The individual post to which I replied created the comparison to Christianity. But the comparison made there was not valid, so I replied with a more balanced answer.
Minister of Truth
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These guys' names were worth Googling?
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WinterBorn
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Sorry, I should have stated that they were abortion Drs and a security guard at a clinic.
Minister of Truth
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Exactly.
Then Muslim's, at least in this country, need to seperate from Sharia those laws that are specific to the administration of their worship and submit wholly to the laws of this land- Until they do that the whole law should be condemned.
The Bible has no trouble dividing up the Law.
- Moral Law
- Ceremonial Law
- Civil Law
Moral Law
The Moral Law is the basis of God’s universal kingdom. It is the expression of God’s character. It exists because God exists, and as God is, so it is. The Moral Law combines a perfect blend of justice and mercy. It may be summed up in one word: Love.
All the requirements of God’s Moral Law hang upon two great principles
"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."
"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
Ceremonial Law
Ceremonial laws were those which regulated the services of the sanctuary, the offering of sacrifices, and the priestly ministration. The Ceremonial Law is clearly distinguished from the Moral Law.
Whereas the Moral Law defines the conduct of the righteous, the Ceremonial Law had to do with the plan of salvation and God’s work of grace for the repentant, believing sinner. It was through the Ceremonial Law that the righteousness of God was able to be "witnessed by the law and the prophets
Every ordinance of the Ceremonial Law pointed to Christ and His work of saving man from sin. Every animal that was slain typified Christ’s death on the cross. Every function the priests performed symbolized Christ’s ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Every sacred festival foreshadowed a saving event in the redemption of the world.
God never gave the Ceremonial Law as a covenant of works whereby one could earn God’s favor through meritorious acts. There was no saving value in the sacrificial activities themselves. But through those activities the believer could by faith claim the righteousness of Christ to atone for his sins. Thus the believer was continually to look forward to the "Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."
Civil Law
Every country has civil regulations and the God-given authority for enforcing law and order. So to Israel as a nation were given laws governing the administration of justice. These laws, distinguished by their very nature, were of an inherently national type. Israel was subject to these laws in the same way in which we are subject to the laws of the land in which we live. "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake." "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For...the powers that be are ordained of God."
Unlike the Ceremonial Laws, which were wholly symbolic in nature, the Civil Laws were not abolished by the death of Christ. Rather, they lost their force when Israel ceased to be a nation.
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Well Precious Prendergasp! believes our Topper, the brainless bopper, is WAY deeper than he originally thought.
Perhaps he can clue you in on the dichotomy of his alleged brain power.
christiefan915
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The more I consider it....the better I like the idea'
What the hell, are we supposed put up with "honor killing" and "wife beating" disguised as accidents?
You're such an idiot it's sometimes painful to read your posts. Honor killings are cultural and date back to ancient Rome; they didn't start with Islam. Brazilian and Colombian men could kill their wives legally. Northern India has these killings. in the U.S. such killings are called crimes of passion.
There is not one word in the Qur'an or Shar'iah about honor killings and Islam totally denounces them. Those TN congressman are a couple of ignorant bigots pandering to their ignorant constituents and also, apparently, you.