Tennessee bill would jail Shariah followers

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Tennessee bill would jail Shariah followers
A proposed Tennessee law would make following the Islamic code known as Shariah law a felony, punishable by 15 years in jail.

State Sen. Bill Ketron, R-Murfreesboro, and state Rep. Judd Matheny, R-Tullahoma, introduced the same bill in the Senate and House last week. It calls Shariah law a danger to homeland security and gives the attorney general authority to investigate complaints and decide who's practicing it.

It exempts peaceful practice of Islam but labels any adherence to Shariah law — which includes religious practices such as feet washing and prayers — as treasonous. It claims Shariah adherents want to replace the Constitution with their religious law.

A dozen other states are considering anti-Shariah bills, and there's a federal lawsuit in Oklahoma over one.

Imam Mohamed Ahmed of the Islamic Center of Nashville on 12th Avenue South said Islam teaches its followers to obey the law of the land. Shariah law, he said, teaches moral values.

"What do you mean, really, by saying I can't abide by Shariah law?" he said. "Shariah law is telling me don't steal. Do you want me to steal and rob a bank?"

The Attorney General's Office had no comment.

It is unclear whether the bill will go before lawmakers in its current form. The measure was filed Thursday to beat the deadline to introduce bills for the current session, Matheny said. It has not been assigned to a committee.

Changes considered
Matheny, the House speaker pro tempore, said he is concerned that aspects of Shariah law might conflict with the U.S. Constitution, but he does not intend to criminalize practices such as the preparations for prayer or dietary rules. He said he would consider amending the bill before asking the legislature to consider it.

"I'm still researching it," he said. "My intent is to educate and to look at it."

Most anti-Shariah bills in other states would ban courts from citing Shariah law. Oklahoma voters approved a referendum in November that banned state courts from using Shariah law in their rulings. A federal judge blocked the Oklahoma law from being implemented, pending a federal lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional.

The Tennessee bill goes further by proposing criminal penalties for following Shariah. Matheny said the bill was model legislation, given to him by the Tennessee Eagle Forum, a conservative advocacy group.

Bobbie Patray, state president of the Eagle Forum, confirmed that the law had been drafted by David Yerushalmi, a Chandler, Ariz.-based attorney. Yerushalmi runs the Society of Americans for National Existence, a nonprofit that says following Shariah is treasonous.

He also has close ties to Frank Gaffney, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy, a key witness for the plaintiffs in a lawsuit against a mosque being built in Murfreesboro.

Backers, critics sound off
Rebecca Bynum, editor of the New English Review, a Nashville-based website that is critical of Islam, supports the bill.

"I applaud Senator Ketron for his effort to protect the citizens of Tennessee from the real and present danger presented by Shari'a and for the deep knowledge and thoughtful consideration that produced this bill," she wrote in an e-mail. "Even if this bill does not pass, it will have done our citizens a great service by provoking informed discussion of this issue."

Charles Haynes, a senior scholar with the First Amendment Center in Nashville, disagrees. He said the bill is based on a complete misunderstanding of Shariah law, which he described as a set of voluntary religious rules, similar to Catholic canon law or Jewish religious law.

The bill is wrongheaded, he said.

"It's complete nonsense," he said.

The bill also is unnecessary, Haynes said, because people of all faiths have to follow secular law.

"Civil law and the Constitution of the United States trumps religious law," he said. "The government can't label religious laws as wrong or treasonous or evil. The government may not take sides in religion. It may not say what is a good religion or a bad religion."

Selah Sbenaty, a member of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, said state legislators have bigger problems to worry about than Shariah law. He wishes they would spend more time trying to fix the state's economy and less time worrying about Islam.

"I believe this bill is a waste of our tax dollars, and I am sure the bill will not pass," he said. "The people of Tennessee are good, loving, hospitable, and do not tolerate bigotry."

Chas Sisk contributed to this report.
 
The more I consider it....the better I like the idea':D:usflag:


What the hell, are we supposed put up with "honor killing" and "wife beating" disguised as accidents?
 
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The more I consider it....the better I like the idea':D:usflag:


What the hell, are we supposed put up with "honor killing" and "wife beating" disguised as accidents?

not everybody who goes into the navy is uneducted but many are. The honor killer got convicted didn't he? And I'd wager most of the 17,000 other murderers are christians.
 
do you have the text of the bill?

its a stupid idea. the parts of sharia law that violate our laws can be dealt with without violating the 1st amendment.
 
not everybody who goes into the navy is uneducted but many are. The honor killer got convicted didn't he? And I'd wager most of the 17,000 other murderers are christians.

When was the last time a Christian did an honor killing in the name of his religion? :confused:
 
When was the last time a Christian did an honor killing in the name of his religion? :confused:

Does anyone remember the last time a muslim group picketed a military funeral?

As for christian "honor killings" I can't say. But I recall a couple of murders and a bombing by christians in the name of their religion. Ask the families of Dr. David Gunn, Dr. John Britton, Dr. Barnett Slepian, or Robert Sanderson about whether christians have killed in the name of their religion.
 
Thanks for making my point. You can STFU now.

So your point was that christians don't commit "honor killings" but they do commit murders in the name of their religion?

Who knew you were trying to make that point. Glad I could help.
 
not everybody who goes into the navy is uneducted but many are. The honor killer got convicted didn't he? And I'd wager most of the 17,000 other murderers are christians.
Well, as one sailor of higher intellect than you, I realize there have been more than "the" honor killer....as in "more than one"
and as far as the "other" murderers, we don't need to add to the problem do we.....

Incidentally....what does a financial analyst do in Louisiana ?.....thats about like a sausage sandwich vendor in Cairo:palm:... but probably not as successful....
 
Well, as one sailor of higher intellect than you, I realize there have been more than "the" honor killer....as in "more than one"
and as far as the "other" murderers, we don't need to add to the problem do we.....

Incidentally....what does a financial analyst do in Louisiana ?.....thats about like a sausage sandwich vendor in Cairo:palm:... but probably not as successful....

Yeah, the smartest always go into the navy. NOt
Guys go into the navy to stay out of prison or off the unemployment line. Your smarter than tinfoil and webway and that's about it.
You know you love the village people.:awesome:
 
Does anyone remember the last time a muslim group picketed a military funeral?

As for christian "honor killings" I can't say. But I recall a couple of murders and a bombing by christians in the name of their religion. Ask the families of Dr. David Gunn, Dr. John Britton, Dr. Barnett Slepian, or Robert Sanderson about whether christians have killed in the name of their religion.
Do you actually manufacture strawmen as a hobby....you seem to have one for every occasion....
 
Do you actually manufacture strawmen as a hobby....you seem to have one for every occasion....

Really? You jumping on the "nothing but strawman" bandwagon with SM?

The discussion was concerning crimes committed in the name of their religion. Aside from the title of "honor killing" the murders I talked about seem very relevant. At the very least it shows a small group of christians that are capable of the same level of murderous behavior as a small group of muslims in this country.
 
Yeah, the smartest always go into the navy. NOt
Guys go into the navy to stay out of prison or off the unemployment line. Your smarter than tinfoil and webway and that's about it.
You know you love the village people.:awesome:

Topper, check the test scores of the 4 branches of the military. The Navy is usually at the top or just behind the Air Force. Both certainly score higher than the Army or Marine Corps.
 
Yeah, the smartest always go into the navy. NOt
Guys go into the navy to stay out of prison or off the unemployment line. Your smarter than tinfoil and webway and that's about it.
You know you love the village people.:awesome:
I guess my question was a little too hard for you.

but to answer your post,

You don't have to be the smartest to serve.....
...... not the smartest and not just the Navy....just the patriots,...... like Kennedy, McCain, Washington, Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Roosevelt, and thousands and thousands of other lesser known men and women....patriots...use your dictionary if you're confused.

You don't have to be super smart to join, they probably would have taken you if you cared to serve. Deck apes, mess cooks, the infantry.....they're always looking for "a few good men".....but then calling you a man might be over stating it.....
 
Really? You jumping on the "nothing but strawman" bandwagon with SM?

The discussion was concerning crimes committed in the name of their religion. Aside from the title of "honor killing" the murders I talked about seem very relevant. At the very least it shows a small group of christians that are capable of the same level of murderous behavior as a small group of muslims in this country.
The discussion is about Shariah Followers.

The Christians and Jews have no comparable laws....
Religious tenets are not the same at all....

You'll need another strawman....
 
Your smarter than tinfoil and webway and that's about it.
:awesome:

And before I forget...I appreciate the compliment, though tinfoil and webway might take issue with you....

and just show there are no hard feelings...your "degree" puts you at the very least, on a par with our resident "super lawyer" .... Jarhead...I mean...Jarod.
 
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