Beck's holocaust comments: OTT?

Onceler said:
Is Beck a psychologist? Is he taking more into account, or is he cherrypicking phrases that HE thinks are "revealing?"

I'm not a Soros fan at all, but I have seen Beck do this with a variety of people on the left that he doesn't like. He'll take quotes from them, or their friends, or merely people that spent time with whoever is target is, and isolate them and try to draw much more sweeping conclusions from them that they deserve.

I'm not a psychologist, either, but there are plenty of ways to look at the Soros comment about the Nazi occupation. To me, he's certainly not making a judgment about Nazism, or saying that Nazism was "fun." He was talking about his perspective as a kid during a war.

Beck is a total character assassin; it's pretty much what he does...
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Beck has numerous issues with Soros-and he is not alone in that. Beck takes apart a prominent persons associations and background-looks at their ideology and political involvement. Beck's only fault is he is on the right side of the aisle in his research and analyisis instead of the left.

Soros own words as an adult make it clear that in the very least he has a callous and seeming detatched emotional response to what happened. His own father described his sons involvemnet with jewish internment as something George enjoyed. Beck is examining the "man" George Soros. Discussing his attitude as an adult about what happened as a child is relevent.
 
By any means necessary <- the ideology of the right. Don't confuse anything they say with a search for the truth. You're missing the point. They are trying to advance their evil empire, and anything else is just a distraction from that.
 
Ice Dancer said:
Beck has numerous issues with Soros-and he is not alone in that. Beck takes apart a prominent persons associations and background-looks at their ideology and political involvement. Beck's only fault is he is on the right side of the aisle in his research and analyisis instead of the left.

Soros own words as an adult make it clear that in the very least he has a callous and seeming detatched emotional response to what happened. His own father described his sons involvemnet with jewish internment as something George enjoyed. Beck is examining the "man" George Soros. Discussing his attitude as an adult about what happened as a child is relevent.
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Beck's a demagogue, and the most dangerous kind of psychologist (one with only a little bit of knowledge). He makes sweeping conclusions based on a quote or two. I get his concern about Soros, but there are plenty of legit criticisms of Soros & his financial involvement with Democrats. Beck spends more time on shoot-from-the-hip character assassination...
 
Onceler said:
Beck's a demagogue, and the most dangerous kind of psychologist (one with only a little bit of knowledge). He makes sweeping conclusions based on a quote or two. I get his concern about Soros, but there are plenty of legit criticisms of Soros & his financial involvement with Democrats. Beck spends more time on shoot-from-the-hip character assassination...
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That's just BS! Beck's examination of Soros has been almost entirely about his financial schemes and market manipulations. He spent part of one segment on this issue-it's the liberal apologists that have blown it up!
 
Yurt said:
no...but you obviously were shit faced last night if you can't remember your false clam that my comments about zurt were in response to something you said....you claimed when i talked about him following me around the interwebs that it was in response to you.....not true..it was in response to athena

the posts above are clickable, i suggest you click on them and then apologize to everyone for your nonsense :)
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Yurt, read this carefully.

What. Response. To. Athena?

What is the number of the Athena post you were responding to?

Because I don't see even one post from Athena on this thread.

Which means you are either hallucinating or lying.
 
christiefan915 said:
Yurt, read this carefully.

What. Response. To. Athena?

What is the number of the Athena post you were responding to?

Because I don't see even one post from Athena on this thread.

Which means you are either hallucinating or lying.
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if you clicked on the links like i told you to, you would not be making this stupid dishonest statement...i linked up to everything with full quotes

you claimed my post about zurt and stalking me was in response to something you said in this thread, it wasn't, it was to athena in another thread, i've given you the links more than once....but i am not surprised you continue to dishonestly act ignorant
 
Onceler said:
That's fairly idiotic. I have started threads saying people like Reid & Pelosi should step down, for starters.

I said I wasn't a fan of Soros, and I'm not; I just think the conclusions being drawn are dumb. Especially your comment about it being disgusting or whatever - he wasn't saying anything about Nazism.

But you can't read, so...
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like i said...99% of the time...learn to read

and funny, you once again falsely attribute something to me...did no mention it was nazism....no...its disgusting that it was the "happiest" time of his life

millions were dying, he was delivering letters sending many to their deaths, it was war....and holocaust, yet he remembers this fondly....wtf...and you defend that

i had relatives talk about that time growing up and not a single one said it their happiest time

you're such an apologist hack
 
Yurt said:
like i said...99% of the time...learn to read

and funny, you once again falsely attribute something to me...did no mention it was nazism....no...its disgusting that it was the "happiest" time of his life

millions were dying, he was delivering letters sending many to their deaths, it was war....and holocaust, yet he remembers this fondly....wtf...and you defend that

i had relatives talk about that time growing up and not a single one said it their happiest time

you're such an apologist hack
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What's even funnier is that my sentiments basically agreed with your OP.

You couldn't be any dumber....
 
"millions were dying, he was delivering letters sending many to their deaths, it was war....and holocaust, yet he remembers this fondly....wtf...and you defend that

i had relatives talk about that time growing up and not a single one said it their happiest time"

This is incredibly dumb too, btw. He's talking about his memories as a KID, at least as far as I can read.

There were adults at the time who had no idea what was going on in the camps. This is a kid.

You're really brain-dead.
 
Yurt said:
if you clicked on the links like i told you to, you would not be making this stupid dishonest statement...i linked up to everything with full quotes

you claimed my post about zurt and stalking me was in response to something you said in this thread, it wasn't, it was to athena in another thread, i've given you the links more than once....but i am not surprised you continue to dishonestly act ignorant
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Sorry yurt, you can't post a response to me on this thread and then claim it was actually to another poster on another thread.

Post 24. You quoted and responded to me, not Athena. You accused me of wanting to silence people I don't agree with. I responded to that bogus claim on post 27. Post 28, you again responded with the same ad hom.

Nothing changes my comment that you contradicted yourself, first stating that Zurt was banned for breaking rules while previously stating that what he did wasn't bannable. And for the record, I didn't see any personal info about you on this board so I still don't know why he was banned.
 
Onceler said:
"millions were dying, he was delivering letters sending many to their deaths, it was war....and holocaust, yet he remembers this fondly....wtf...and you defend that

i had relatives talk about that time growing up and not a single one said it their happiest time"

This is incredibly dumb too, btw. He's talking about his memories as a KID, at least as far as I can read.

There were adults at the time who had no idea what was going on in the camps. This is a kid.

You're really brain-dead.
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He's clueless. I have teenagers, I know how they think and how they explain the world, and it's not like adults do. He's in for a rude awakening when he becomes a father, and his kids become teenagers.
 
christiefan915 said:
Sorry yurt, you can't post a response to me on this thread and then claim it was actually to another poster on another thread.

Post 24. You quoted and responded to me, not Athena. You accused me of wanting to silence people I don't agree with. I responded to that bogus claim on post 27. Post 28, you again responded with the same ad hom.

Nothing changes my comment that you contradicted yourself, first stating that Zurt was banned for breaking rules while previously stating that what he did wasn't bannable. And for the record, I didn't see any personal info about you on this board so I still don't know why he was banned.
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this is the third and last time i explain this to you...i've given you all the links yet you dishonestly claim you have no idea what i'm talking about...i've directly quoted the post where damo explained why zurt was banned to you twice, yet you claim you don't know why....

why are you so dishonest?

this is what YOU claimed i said and how the posts went in my conversation with YOU...pay attention:

Now let's look at the posts.

christie: I'll never understand why this guy isn't banned, yet Zurt got flagged and he posted on real topics.

yurt: why should he [Zurt] be banned? zurt broke numerous rules repeatedly

christie: he didn't do anything different from what others are doing.

yurt: "he follows me all over the interwebs, its annoying, but not bannable annoying."
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my last sentence was not, i repeat not in response to anything you said, yet you claimed it was...it was a post to athena in the announcements section and it dealt solely <-- focus now, on his following me around, it had nothing at all to do with anything else he may have or will do....

damo has banned his prior trolls for posting my personal info, i don't care if you haven't seen it, and it likely is because damo erased the post
 
Onceler said:
What's even funnier is that my sentiments basically agreed with your OP.

You couldn't be any dumber....
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of course nothing but ad homs....typical when you know you have a indefensible pov

my OP still stands, i had no idea he made those disgusting comments at the time of my op and i think beck is wrong that he sent people to their deaths

care to try again
 
Onceler said:
"millions were dying, he was delivering letters sending many to their deaths, it was war....and holocaust, yet he remembers this fondly....wtf...and you defend that

i had relatives talk about that time growing up and not a single one said it their happiest time"

This is incredibly dumb too, btw. He's talking about his memories as a KID, at least as far as I can read.

There were adults at the time who had no idea what was going on in the camps. This is a kid.

You're really brain-dead.
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actually, you're brain dead....what ice dancer posted showed he had knowledge of what was going on and he tried to warn them when he delivered the notices....yeah...he warned them because he had no idea what was going on....

wow, you really should be careful about calling others dumb
 
Yurt said:
actually, you're brain dead....what ice dancer posted showed he had knowledge of what was going on and he tried to warn them when he delivered the notices....yeah...he warned them because he had no idea what was going on....

wow, you really should be careful about calling others dumb
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No, no - you really are an idiot. I mean, to call his comments "disgusting"?

Ridiculous. You should be embarassed. He was a kid; he wasn't saying that anything about the Nazis was "fun."

What a simpleton....
 
Onceler said:
No, no - you really are an idiot. I mean, to call his comments "disgusting"?

Ridiculous. You should be embarassed. He was a kid; he wasn't saying that anything about the Nazis was "fun."

What a simpleton....
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good lord, the nazis had full control, sent him on errands to give notices that sent some to death camps....but no....nothing about having to hide the fact you're a jew...oh no....nothing at all to do with nazis...they had no impact on his life

if i was kidnapped for a year and let loose on to send notes to people that may result in them getting shipped to their deaths and i say it was the happiest time of my laugh...yeah...nothing at all to do with my kidnappers or letters...i just love hiding my identity while my country is engaging in a holocaust....yeah....holocaust, that was great time of my life

you're a fucking sick person
 
Onceler said:
No, no - you really are an idiot. I mean, to call his comments "disgusting"?

Ridiculous. You should be embarassed. He was a kid; he wasn't saying that anything about the Nazis was "fun."

What a simpleton....
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As an adult he most certainly did recall that particular time as the happiest and most adventuress of his life...He even acknowleged it was sacraligious to do so. His own father commented on it. He was a currier for the Nazis, and it is THIS time that he was being asked about. It is about this time his fathers book was about. Again, no one is holding it against a "kid" for doing what was neccesary to stay alive, but against the adult man who seems so callous about that time.
 
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