Beck's holocaust comments: OTT?

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Ewwwwwwwww. SCARY!

Indeed, it is!

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

~Martin Niemöller

 

[Bfgrn]

Bfoon, I really hope you listened to all 6:58 of the first clip, as Beck explains in exquisite detail, how he doesn't mean what you claimed he meant. As he said, the term "social justice" has become a progressive code word, and this has happened AFTER the time of MLK, who incidentally, never articulated a foundational message of social/economic justice. And Jesus certainly didn't preach progressivism. But you see, you have been brainwashed by George Soros propaganda, you've bought in to the whole message of the progressive movement, and you are too ignorant and stubborn to see just how off-the-path you are.

As for John Lennon, he most certainly did write the White Album, which was the motivation for the Manson clan to perpetrate those crimes, by their own sworn testimony. Now you can maintain it wasn't the same as Beck's influence, or they motivated the crazy people in different ways, but the end result was crazy people being motivated by the words of others. There are two ways to "fix" such a problem... hold the crazy people accountable for their actions, and them alone... or stifle free speech, so as not to motivate or influence crazy people. Since you are up to your earlobes in Soros-flavored koolaid, you obviously want to stifle free speech. But you can only be intellectually honest enough to apply this standard to Beck, and not John Lennon. No, for the Beatles, you find a convenient 'out' and the same mindset doesn't apply. However, let me warn you, the day and time will come, when it WILL apply. Once you establish the basis for the premise, and set such a thing in motion, it's over. Your freedom to speak is gone forever, and no one will be there to get it back.

Speech Transcription

December 18, 1963
The program normally heard at this time will be delayed this evening so that we may present the following special direct broadcast.

We now leave our studios.

Garrard Macleod: Good evening, this is Garrard Macleod speaking to you from the Herman W. Read Fieldhouse on the west campus of Western Michigan University. This evening we present an address by the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Junior. His topic tonight will be "Social Justice."

http://www.wmich.edu/library/archives/mlk/transcription.html
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Glenn Beck made a CONSCIOUS effort to slander, smear and demonize the Tides Foundation. There is NO comparison to Manson and the Beatles.

Lyrics
Blackbird singing in the dead of night/ Take these broken wings and learn to fly/ All your life/ You were only waiting for this moment to arise.

Manson Interpretation
Beatles were urging black people to arise and revolt against the white establishment.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonbeatles.html
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Dixie, you like to change my screen name to a derogatory term, and throw around words like 'pinhead'. Yet on every post I prove you are either a liar or really stupid. Maybe you need to change your approach.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

The Tides Foundation is an evil and sinister organization founded and funded by Marxists, Communists, and Progressives, to fundamentally transform America into a Socialist State. It is THEIR motivations which should be feared and rejected by anyone who embraces FREEDOM. You can keep carrying the water for these people, as you most certainly will, because you are what they call a "useful idiot" and that's your role in the game. They are depending on your brainwashed mentality to continue fighting for them, and you are doing your best. The problem is, millions and millions of Americans, because of Glenn Beck, are using the Internet and other sources, to inform themselves about the Tides Foundation, and the people behind it. You better get the Internet closed down quickly, if you expect to pull the wool over the eyes of the public.

Now, lets' discuss MLK and "social justice" ...during the mid 1960s, when MLK made this speech, the Progressive Movement had not yet hijacked the phrase. At THAT time, it meant something completely different, it wasn't being used as a code word for social progressivism. It had an entirely different contextual meaning, it applied to the systemic institutionalized racial discriminatory laws in place at the time, which prohibited black people from realizing the same "American Dream" as their white counterparts. That particular "social injustice" was addressed in 1965, and has since been remedied. It is precisely BECAUSE that particular social injustice was so ingrained into the psyche of America, and made such a major impact on our culture, that the progressives hijacked it to advance their objectives. But what you are doing is, comparing apples to oranges.

MLK did not support or condone progressive 'social justice' in the current context. He just didn't! I have read every MLK speech, and without fail, he talks about the realization of a day when blacks and whites could be viewed in equality and walk hand in hand. This is NOT what the 'social justice' of progressivism seeks at all. It is an 'existential' adaptation and perversion of the message King brought forth. The concept is being used by Marxist Communist entities, who want to destroy freedom and the "American Dream" for both whites and blacks, and replace freedom with state control of your life and liberty. In order to do this, they invoke the emotive premise of 'social justice' because they know you, and many like you, are totally ignorant of history. You don't realize they did the same exact thing, used the same exact tactic, to enslave generations of Russians, Pols, Czechs, Germans, Italians, etc. You are oblivious to the MILLIONS of people who were systemically executed in order to implement their authority. In your naive and simplistic mind, the term "social justice" sounds harmless and appealing, you believe you are fighting the "good fight" for something worthwhile and glorious. What you are fighting for, is mass genocide and evil that is unimaginable to most Americans.

 

[zappasguitar]

Nazi collaborator like the U.S.?

Nazis Were Given ‘Safe Haven’ in U.S., Report Says

One wonders when Beck will be producing his multi-day "investigation" of the Bush family and their detailed dealings with the Nazis?

Anyone want to speculate on when we'll be seeing that particular report?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

The Tides Foundation is an evil and sinister organization founded and funded by Marxists, Communists, and Progressives, to fundamentally transform America into a Socialist State. It is THEIR motivations which should be feared and rejected by anyone who embraces FREEDOM. You can keep carrying the water for these people, as you most certainly will, because you are what they call a "useful idiot" and that's your role in the game. They are depending on your brainwashed mentality to continue fighting for them, and you are doing your best. The problem is, millions and millions of Americans, because of Glenn Beck, are using the Internet and other sources, to inform themselves about the Tides Foundation, and the people behind it. You better get the Internet closed down quickly, if you expect to pull the wool over the eyes of the public.

Now, lets' discuss MLK and "social justice" ...during the mid 1960s, when MLK made this speech, the Progressive Movement had not yet hijacked the phrase. At THAT time, it meant something completely different, it wasn't being used as a code word for social progressivism. It had an entirely different contextual meaning, it applied to the systemic institutionalized racial discriminatory laws in place at the time, which prohibited black people from realizing the same "American Dream" as their white counterparts. That particular "social injustice" was addressed in 1965, and has since been remedied. It is precisely BECAUSE that particular social injustice was so ingrained into the psyche of America, and made such a major impact on our culture, that the progressives hijacked it to advance their objectives. But what you are doing is, comparing apples to oranges.

MLK did not support or condone progressive 'social justice' in the current context. He just didn't! I have read every MLK speech, and without fail, he talks about the realization of a day when blacks and whites could be viewed in equality and walk hand in hand. This is NOT what the 'social justice' of progressivism seeks at all. It is an 'existential' adaptation and perversion of the message King brought forth. The concept is being used by Marxist Communist entities, who want to destroy freedom and the "American Dream" for both whites and blacks, and replace freedom with state control of your life and liberty. In order to do this, they invoke the emotive premise of 'social justice' because they know you, and many like you, are totally ignorant of history. You don't realize they did the same exact thing, used the same exact tactic, to enslave generations of Russians, Pols, Czechs, Germans, Italians, etc. You are oblivious to the MILLIONS of people who were systemically executed in order to implement their authority. In your naive and simplistic mind, the term "social justice" sounds harmless and appealing, you believe you are fighting the "good fight" for something worthwhile and glorious. What you are fighting for, is mass genocide and evil that is unimaginable to most Americans.

Not really, we are still a society based on different rules for different classes. Bankers, for instance can destroy the economy and still get bailed out. Their victims, the rest of us, get called 'parasites' and are scheduled for genocide.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

One wonders when Beck will be producing his multi-day "investigation" of the Bush family and their detailed dealings with the Nazis?

Anyone want to speculate on when we'll be seeing that particular report?

That's right, show everyone how well you are carrying Soros' water, and assisting the Marxist Socialist shadow government. That's a good little Commie! I bet they will save you for last to slaughter, because you've been so instrumental in helping them achieve their objectives!

 

[midcan5]

Bfgrn, Dixie is nuts, Beck is nuts, I'm not sure how much more simpler to put it. He has argued losing positions for years now, he used to argue for WMDs in Iraq and may still. Given his insanity, debating him is like asking an insane person if they are insane or talking to your refrigerator - not hopeful.

But Beck is just one in a long line of charlatans, I am amazed at how much of the same craziness was present in America at the end of the 19th century and FDR suffered the same crazies. Ironically and paradoxically Joseph McCarthy came from same seed. But today our nutcases are tolerated because PC says we should tolerate nutcases. On occasion I turn to Beck to see what bizarre and wacky connection he is making and he never fails.


Sure looks like a sinister group. LOL

http://www.tides.org/tides-foundation/index.html
http://www.tides.org/


"...n the Beck world, progressives are socialists are Maoists are Communists are totalitarians, so any enemy of Soros is a friend of Glenn Beck's. Insanity makes strange bedfellows. Look who Beck quotes to support his argument that Soros is one of the secret rulers of the world:

"He's known as the man who broke the bank of England. The Prime Minister of Malaysia called Soros an unscrupulous profiteer. In Thailand, he was branded the "economic war criminal." They also said that he "sucks the blood from people."

The prime minister of Malaysia went on to say: "We do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge, and coincidentally Soros is a Jew." (The other quote, about how Soros is a bloodsucking something-or-other, speaks for itself.)"


http://www.salon.com/life/this_week...feature/2010/11/13/this_week_crazy_glenn_beck




"As hard as it is to believe, most days I intentionally ignore Glenn Beck posts and videos on the blogs. My recurring reaction is generally twofold. One: he's exhausting to watch because just as I'm wrapping my head around one line of googly-eyed horseshit, he belts out another ridiculous, melodramatic or dangerous line, and before I know it, I'm faced with a log-jam of crazy, forcing me to scramble for either an oxygen mask or a stiff drink. And, two: why pay attention to the television equivalent of an escaped mental patient screaming gibberish on the median strip at a busy intersection?" http://mediamatters.org/columns/200909170033

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ0mdxXw8Ac"]YouTube - LEWIS BLACK- "GLEN BECK HAS NAZI TOURETTES" LOL[/ame]

 

[Bfgrn]

The Tides Foundation is an evil and sinister organization founded and funded by Marxists, Communists, and Progressives, to fundamentally transform America into a Socialist State. It is THEIR motivations which should be feared and rejected by anyone who embraces FREEDOM. You can keep carrying the water for these people, as you most certainly will, because you are what they call a "useful idiot" and that's your role in the game. They are depending on your brainwashed mentality to continue fighting for them, and you are doing your best. The problem is, millions and millions of Americans, because of Glenn Beck, are using the Internet and other sources, to inform themselves about the Tides Foundation, and the people behind it. You better get the Internet closed down quickly, if you expect to pull the wool over the eyes of the public.

Now, lets' discuss MLK and "social justice" ...during the mid 1960s, when MLK made this speech, the Progressive Movement had not yet hijacked the phrase. At THAT time, it meant something completely different, it wasn't being used as a code word for social progressivism. It had an entirely different contextual meaning, it applied to the systemic institutionalized racial discriminatory laws in place at the time, which prohibited black people from realizing the same "American Dream" as their white counterparts. That particular "social injustice" was addressed in 1965, and has since been remedied. It is precisely BECAUSE that particular social injustice was so ingrained into the psyche of America, and made such a major impact on our culture, that the progressives hijacked it to advance their objectives. But what you are doing is, comparing apples to oranges.

MLK did not support or condone progressive 'social justice' in the current context. He just didn't! I have read every MLK speech, and without fail, he talks about the realization of a day when blacks and whites could be viewed in equality and walk hand in hand. This is NOT what the 'social justice' of progressivism seeks at all. It is an 'existential' adaptation and perversion of the message King brought forth. The concept is being used by Marxist Communist entities, who want to destroy freedom and the "American Dream" for both whites and blacks, and replace freedom with state control of your life and liberty. In order to do this, they invoke the emotive premise of 'social justice' because they know you, and many like you, are totally ignorant of history. You don't realize they did the same exact thing, used the same exact tactic, to enslave generations of Russians, Pols, Czechs, Germans, Italians, etc. You are oblivious to the MILLIONS of people who were systemically executed in order to implement their authority. In your naive and simplistic mind, the term "social justice" sounds harmless and appealing, you believe you are fighting the "good fight" for something worthwhile and glorious. What you are fighting for, is mass genocide and evil that is unimaginable to most Americans.

Dixie. I say this with complete seriousness and I expect you will dismiss what I say. You need to seek professional help. You have become delusional.

Glenn Beck is a complete fraud. Your mind is being filled with such a high level of propaganda that you can no longer recognize reality. Beck is creating a very toxic hatred by one group of Americans toward another. Liberals and progressives are AMERICANS. We're not some 'other' or enemy of this country. We love this country and put our children's future, the health and well being of EVERY citizen and protecting our environment for future generations ahead of property or materialism. I'm fearful there are too many people who are as brainwashed and delusional as YOU. And some other nut will head out to kill people at the Tides Foundation.

The Tide Foundation has a history of support of environmentalism, human rights, education, and combating the global AIDS crisis.

There is nothing radical about wanting clean air to breath, safe water to drink and a planet where all of God's creature can thrive.


"We didn't inherit this land from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."
Lakota Sioux Proverb

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Dixie. I say this with complete seriousness and I expect you will dismiss what I say. You need to seek professional help. You have become delusional.

Glenn Beck is a complete fraud. Your mind is being filled with such a high level of propaganda that you can no longer recognize reality. Beck is creating a very toxic hatred by one group of Americans toward another. Liberals and progressives are AMERICANS. We're not some 'other' or enemy of this country. We love this country and put our children's future, the health and well being of EVERY citizen and protecting our environment for future generations ahead of property or materialism. I'm fearful there are too many people who are as brainwashed and delusional as YOU. And some other nut will head out to kill people at the Tides Foundation.

The Tide Foundation has a history of support of environmentalism, human rights, education, and combating the global AIDS crisis.

There is nothing radical about wanting clean air to breath, safe water to drink and a planet where all of God's creature can thrive.


"We didn't inherit this land from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."
Lakota Sioux Proverb

No bfgrn. Unfortunately you consider yourselves "global citizens", and demonstrate this "enlightened" attitude by refusing to show solidarity with other americans and reject the globalization meme which is bifurcating our society, but so do beck's audience.

 

[Bfgrn]

No bfgrn. Unfortunately you consider yourselves "global citizens", and demonstrate this "enlightened" attitude by refusing to show solidarity with other americans and reject the globalization meme which is bifurcating our society, but so do beck's audience.

I'm sorry, but I have the same advice for you. You are a one issue nut.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I'm sorry, but I have the same advice for you. You are a one issue nut.

Because that one issue is the root of all our problems. Our country is literally being destroyed by sending jobs overseas. AMerica is being cut out of it's own supply chain, and all anyone can yammer about is tax cuts and green jobs, both of them being fucking stupid as a solution to our problem.

 

[Bfgrn]

Because that one issue is the root of all our problems. Our country is literally being destroyed by sending jobs overseas. AMerica is being cut out of it's own supply chain, and all anyone can yammer about is tax cuts and green jobs, both of them being fucking stupid as a solution to our problem.

I agree we face a dire jobs future. But isolationism will not work. It will just create a wasteland, and no one has the political power or courage to do it. We have to work within reality, not fantasy.

The best concept I've heard was to set up small regional economies. I wish I could find the link to the article I read, but all searches come up empty. I think the guy who developed the concept is British.

A real free market only works in a setting where everyone who is a participant has to live, breath, drink the water and raise their family in the conditions they and their neighbors create. A bad actor or a polluter must be forced to suffer the same consequences and not be allowed to externalize his costs. They will be quickly identified and either they clean up their act or face boycotts or expulsion.


It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I agree we face a dire jobs future. But isolationism will not work. It will just create a wasteland, and no one has the political power or courage to do it. We have to work within reality, not fantasy.

Of course it will work. We would increase jobs just through serving our own needs. Stop being a brainwash victim.

The best concept I've heard was to set up small regional economies. I wish I could find the link to the article I read, but all searches come up empty. I think the guy who developed the concept is British.

Sound like isolationism, doesn't it?

A real free market only works in a setting where everyone who is a participant has to live, breath, drink the water and raise their family in the conditions they and their neighbors create. A bad actor or a polluter must be forced to suffer the same consequences and not be allowed to externalize his costs. They will be quickly identified and either they clean up their act or face boycotts or expulsion.

That's why isolationism is such a good idea.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus

Right.

Globalist zealots are enemies of humanity.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Dixie. I say this with complete seriousness and I expect you will dismiss what I say. You need to seek professional help. You have become delusional.

Glenn Beck is a complete fraud. Your mind is being filled with such a high level of propaganda that you can no longer recognize reality. Beck is creating a very toxic hatred by one group of Americans toward another. Liberals and progressives are AMERICANS. We're not some 'other' or enemy of this country. We love this country and put our children's future, the health and well being of EVERY citizen and protecting our environment for future generations ahead of property or materialism. I'm fearful there are too many people who are as brainwashed and delusional as YOU. And some other nut will head out to kill people at the Tides Foundation.

The Tide Foundation has a history of support of environmentalism, human rights, education, and combating the global AIDS crisis.

There is nothing radical about wanting clean air to breath, safe water to drink and a planet where all of God's creature can thrive.


"We didn't inherit this land from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children."
Lakota Sioux Proverb

Yep, I am going to dismiss what you have to say, because you are a brainwashed prole. You have bought into the allure of Communist Socialism, because you lack the intelligence to study world history and realize how much death and destruction the ideology has caused through the years. In your simple retarded mind, you see the tenants of Communist Socialism, as an effective means to address the problems of mankind, because it seems to be attractive to the dim-witted. For instance, the Tides Foundation professes the goals of environmentalism, human rights, education, and combating the global AIDS crisis, and this all sounds lovely and wonderful... how could any caring and compassionate person be opposed to those goals? In your simple mind, you can't fathom how you are being duped into believing a myth, and how you are being used to promote the very entities who seek to destroy every freedom you've ever known. No, to you, in your retarded simple-minded and ignorant state, believe you are supporting a noble and good cause, and it simply never occurs to you that you could be wrong. You accept the word of people who are lying to you, and you accept the propaganda as "proof" to support your positions. All you really need to do, is educate yourself on history, and follow the course of what is happening with Soros and the Tides Foundation, as well as the other operatives who are actively planning to control the world under a single world government. What you fail to see coming, is the death and destruction of our civilization and way of life. You can't imagine how these seemingly honorable motives and objectives can lead to catastrophe for freedom and democracy. You've blocked that possibility out, and refuse to examine it further, instead, opting to attack me and Glenn Beck, and anyone else who threatens the prime objective. This sinister plot depends wholly on those like you, who are too shallow and simple minded to educate yourself, who find it easier to believe the fairy tales and propaganda, and "hope for change" instead. They are counting on your willing acceptance of these "ideals" to advance their ultimate goals, which is to destroy all that you know and understand of personal freedom and liberty. But you are too much of a fool to ever investigate it, to ever do the hard work, to ever try and find the truth, or even entertain the notion that you are flat out wrong and on the wrong side, following the wrong course. Nope... in your little simple mind, it all sounds so wonderful and promising, you just can't help but follow the shiny object! Like a sheep following its master to the slaughter house.

 

[Bfgrn]

Yep, I am going to dismiss what you have to say, because you are a brainwashed prole. You have bought into the allure of Communist Socialism, because you lack the intelligence to study world history and realize how much death and destruction the ideology has caused through the years. In your simple retarded mind, you see the tenants of Communist Socialism, as an effective means to address the problems of mankind, because it seems to be attractive to the dim-witted. For instance, the Tides Foundation professes the goals of environmentalism, human rights, education, and combating the global AIDS crisis, and this all sounds lovely and wonderful... how could any caring and compassionate person be opposed to those goals? In your simple mind, you can't fathom how you are being duped into believing a myth, and how you are being used to promote the very entities who seek to destroy every freedom you've ever known. No, to you, in your retarded simple-minded and ignorant state, believe you are supporting a noble and good cause, and it simply never occurs to you that you could be wrong. You accept the word of people who are lying to you, and you accept the propaganda as "proof" to support your positions. All you really need to do, is educate yourself on history, and follow the course of what is happening with Soros and the Tides Foundation, as well as the other operatives who are actively planning to control the world under a single world government. What you fail to see coming, is the death and destruction of our civilization and way of life. You can't imagine how these seemingly honorable motives and objectives can lead to catastrophe for freedom and democracy. You've blocked that possibility out, and refuse to examine it further, instead, opting to attack me and Glenn Beck, and anyone else who threatens the prime objective. This sinister plot depends wholly on those like you, who are too shallow and simple minded to educate yourself, who find it easier to believe the fairy tales and propaganda, and "hope for change" instead. They are counting on your willing acceptance of these "ideals" to advance their ultimate goals, which is to destroy all that you know and understand of personal freedom and liberty. But you are too much of a fool to ever investigate it, to ever do the hard work, to ever try and find the truth, or even entertain the notion that you are flat out wrong and on the wrong side, following the wrong course. Nope... in your little simple mind, it all sounds so wonderful and promising, you just can't help but follow the shiny object! Like a sheep following its master to the slaughter house.

Hey Dixie, I guess the only course of action you have left is to double down. You don't possess enough adjectives. Maybe you can invent some.

I've said it before and I will say it again, not because of any ideology, I say it from what I've seen and lived through.

I've been around since Harry Truman was President, so I lived through a good portion of the liberal era that started with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. It was America's finest moment. It was an era with huge economic growth and shared wealth, fantastic successes in technology, vast expansion of citizen freedoms and liberties and the growth of a middle class that defined this country and made America the 'city upon the hill', the envy of the world.

That era ended at the close of the 1960's, due to a weak and splintered Democratic party caused by the Vietnam War and political assassinations. It ushered in a conservative era that has continued ever since. It has been a disaster, a negative mirror image of the liberal era. Ronald Reagan was the biggest socialist in history. He is the pied piper on the road to serfdom. He began a systematic dismantling of all the gains the middle class had secured. Reagan transferred wealth from the poor and the middle class to the opulent. He looted Social Security to cover the shortfalls of his tax cuts for the wealthy. And the whole 'small businessman is the engine of growth' was cruel rhetoric. The self-employment tax jumped as much as 66 percent under Reagan.

Conservatives have built nothing in 30 +years...NOTHING. They have only destroyed and torn down everything our grandparents and parents built together as ONE nation, one people. America now lead the world in incarcerating human beings...THINK about THAT...The United States of America, the 'city upon the hill' arrests and imprisons MORE of their citizens per capita that China or Russia!

We just ended the regime of the worst environmental president in history...Ronbo on steroids Bush...the war criminal and murderer. His attack on every environmental law and policy will lead to the premature deaths of thousands of Americans every year. He so severely disabled the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts, it will be impossible to force polluters to EVER clean up their toxins and carcinogens. And polluters can dump any debris they want into our streams and tributaries by just filing for a permit from the Corp of Engineers. Something that can be done by mail. Killing human beings is a crime and your fucking man crush Bush is a CRIMINAL!!!

So shove ALL your right wing lunatic fringe end of the world bluster and bullshit up your ass Dixie. I've seen the end of America as we know it, I was an unwilling passenger on the bus conservatives drove to that precipice.

What are you going to argue next Dixie, it was liberals and progressives who supported torture?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Hey Dixie, I guess the only course of action you have left is to double down. You don't possess enough adjectives. Maybe you can invent some.

I've said it before and I will say it again, not because of any ideology, I say it from what I've seen and lived through.

I've been around since Harry Truman was President, so I lived through a good portion of the liberal era that started with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. It was America's finest moment. It was an era with huge economic growth and shared wealth, fantastic successes in technology, vast expansion of citizen freedoms and liberties and the growth of a middle class that defined this country and made America the 'city upon the hill', the envy of the world.

That era ended at the close of the 1960's, due to a weak and splintered Democratic party caused by the Vietnam War and political assassinations. It ushered in a conservative era that has continued ever since. It has been a disaster, a negative mirror image of the liberal era. Ronald Reagan was the biggest socialist in history. He is the pied piper on the road to serfdom. He began a systematic dismantling of all the gains the middle class had secured. Reagan transferred wealth from the poor and the middle class to the opulent. He looted Social Security to cover the shortfalls of his tax cuts for the wealthy. And the whole 'small businessman is the engine of growth' was cruel rhetoric. The self-employment tax jumped as much as 66 percent under Reagan.

Conservatives have built nothing in 30 +years...NOTHING. They have only destroyed and torn down everything our grandparents and parents built together as ONE nation, one people. America now lead the world in incarcerating human beings...THINK about THAT...The United States of America, the 'city upon the hill' arrests and imprisons MORE of their citizens per capita that China or Russia!

We just ended the regime of the worst environmental president in history...Ronbo on steroids Bush...the war criminal and murderer. His attack on every environmental law and policy will lead to the premature deaths of thousands of Americans every year. He so severely disabled the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts, it will be impossible to force polluters to EVER clean up their toxins and carcinogens. Killing human beings is a crime and your fucking man crush Bush is a CRIMINAL!!!

So shove ALL your right wing lunatic fringe end of the world bluster and bullshit up your ass Dixie. I've seen the end of America as we know it, I was an unwilling passenger on the bus conservatives drove to that precipice.

What are you going to argue next Dixie, it was liberals and progressives who supported torture?

Then fucking leave, if you don't like it.

 

[Bfgrn]

Then fucking leave, if you don't like it.

Love it or leave it...wow, I haven't heard that since they started killing honor roll students at Kent State!

It's ironic, conservatives scream, cry and groan about BIG government, warn of the dire perils of government intervention and intrusion, but most of all, they always hammer home the ever lurking 'unintended consequences' of the same...

So either conservatives are lying, or this is THEIR idea of a 'Nanny State'

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
Edmund Burke

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Love it or leave it...wow, I haven't heard that since they started killing honor roll students at Kent State!

It's ironic, conservatives scream, cry and groan about BIG government, warn of the dire perils of government intervention and intrusion, but most of all, they always hammer home the ever lurking 'unintended consequences' of the same...

So either conservatives are lying, or this is THEIR idea of a 'Nanny State'

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
Edmund Burke

You were the one bitchin and moanin, bitch; so fuck off.
By the way, your Kent State comment is just another example of liberals pissing down their own legs.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Hey Dixie, I guess the only course of action you have left is to double down. You don't possess enough adjectives. Maybe you can invent some.

I've said it before and I will say it again, not because of any ideology, I say it from what I've seen and lived through.

I've been around since Harry Truman was President, so I lived through a good portion of the liberal era that started with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. It was America's finest moment. It was an era with huge economic growth and shared wealth, fantastic successes in technology, vast expansion of citizen freedoms and liberties and the growth of a middle class that defined this country and made America the 'city upon the hill', the envy of the world.

That era ended at the close of the 1960's, due to a weak and splintered Democratic party caused by the Vietnam War and political assassinations. It ushered in a conservative era that has continued ever since. It has been a disaster, a negative mirror image of the liberal era. Ronald Reagan was the biggest socialist in history. He is the pied piper on the road to serfdom. He began a systematic dismantling of all the gains the middle class had secured. Reagan transferred wealth from the poor and the middle class to the opulent. He looted Social Security to cover the shortfalls of his tax cuts for the wealthy. And the whole 'small businessman is the engine of growth' was cruel rhetoric. The self-employment tax jumped as much as 66 percent under Reagan.

Conservatives have built nothing in 30 +years...NOTHING. They have only destroyed and torn down everything our grandparents and parents built together as ONE nation, one people. America now lead the world in incarcerating human beings...THINK about THAT...The United States of America, the 'city upon the hill' arrests and imprisons MORE of their citizens per capita that China or Russia!

We just ended the regime of the worst environmental president in history...Ronbo on steroids Bush...the war criminal and murderer. His attack on every environmental law and policy will lead to the premature deaths of thousands of Americans every year. He so severely disabled the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts, it will be impossible to force polluters to EVER clean up their toxins and carcinogens. And polluters can dump any debris they want into our streams and tributaries by just filing for a permit from the Corp of Engineers. Something that can be done by mail. Killing human beings is a crime and your fucking man crush Bush is a CRIMINAL!!!

So shove ALL your right wing lunatic fringe end of the world bluster and bullshit up your ass Dixie. I've seen the end of America as we know it, I was an unwilling passenger on the bus conservatives drove to that precipice.

What are you going to argue next Dixie, it was liberals and progressives who supported torture?

Did you ever stop to wonder how so many millions of people in 1930s Germany, were convinced of the merits espoused in the Nazi ideology? It was a "people's movement" which brought Hitler to power. Overwhelming public support for the message he delivered. Have you ever stopped to wonder, why that message resounded so well and so effectively with the people? The same could be said for the Russians and Italians under similar movements, how did all those millions and millions of people fall into the mindset they held? We know in retrospect, their ideology was evil and twisted, and not inherently good for mankind or ultimately, for the German people. But what caused the overwhelming masses to support it to begin with? Has that thought ever crossed your mind, or do you just presume it was mass stupidity? Maybe the bulk of Germany was abhorrently racist and evil? Or...... could it be possible, the 'message' was delivered and structured in such a way, as to appeal to the masses? To promise the glory and magnificence of a greater day for all? And could it be, the people bought in to the idea, and began to believe that what Hitler was promising, was the way to go? Could it be, they ignored the warnings from others of the time, who tried to stop it early on? Could it be, they were too ignorant and unintelligent to recognize the path they were heading down for what it was?

Do you imagine, when tens of thousands were being marched to death camps across Russia, that maybe some of them thought... damn, I wish I had listened to the detractors, I wish I hadn't bought in to the rhetoric? When millions of Jews were being incinerated, and people began to realize the brutality and heinousness of what was happening... do you think they might have had regrets for blindly supporting the cause? At that point in time, was there anything that anyone could do to stop it, besides the wrath of the Allied Forces? You see... these are things you need to be thinking about NOW, not down the road when it's too late to turn back, and there is nowhere to run. But since you've spent the bulk of your life being brainwashed by Socialists, Marxists, and Communists, and you've bought in to the entire philosophy, it's too much to expect of you. Just as it was too much to expect of the millions who followed the same ideologies 70 years ago, down the exact same path to certain destruction. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history, are destined to repeat them. And so we shall.

 

[christiefan915]

Love it or leave it...wow, I haven't heard that since they started killing honor roll students at Kent State!

It's ironic, conservatives scream, cry and groan about BIG government, warn of the dire perils of government intervention and intrusion, but most of all, they always hammer home the ever lurking 'unintended consequences' of the same...

So either conservatives are lying, or this is THEIR idea of a 'Nanny State'

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.
Edmund Burke

Life is easy for conservatives because it all boils down to black and white.

"Love it or leave it" is a perfect example of this.