But it is exactly what she said. She made the claim that masturbation is the same as cheating on your spouse. She didn't say that with the caveat that only extreme amounts of masturbation fit that bill or when you masturbate instead of having sex with your spouse fit that bill.
She didn't need a caveat, she was correct! You don't share her view, that's your right! It doesn't make you correct and her wrong, idiot! Getting your sexual gratification from pictures of another woman's naked body while masturbating yourself, is being
unfaithful to your wife. I don't give a fuck if you don't comprehend that, I don't care if you are too stupid to realize that. There is nothing "loony tunes" about her viewpoint, it may just be a little too "old-fasioned" for liberals such as yourself. It might fly in the face of your decadent "free love" mentality, where everything is "right" if it feels good! That doesn't make her a "nutcase" or "wrong" about any damn thing, it does demonstrate how intolerant liberals can be when something challenges their liberal ideology.
Try and make it sound as though you are using common sense, Dixie. Maybe you can convince yourself. But my question was valid and the point I made concerning masturbation inside the marriage is perfectly legit. Your own stubbornness and unwillingness to accept that you may have stuck your foot in your mouth is what is killing you.
I didn't stick my foot in my mouth. I stand behind every word I said, and I ain't backing down. I'm also not going to let you LIE AND DISTORT what I said, so that you can make yourself appear "right" here. We're not going to switch the debate into "prudes" vs. "non-prudes" so you can win, that isn't going to happen. She said something specific, and we will stick with that. She wasn't talking about sexually adventuresome couples trying out new things! She was making a commentary on the effects pornography has on healthy marriages, and she equated masturbating with cheating... much the same way Jimmy Carter did in his 1976 Playboy interview. Most people with any degree of common sense, understand that porn and masturbation can be very damaging to a relationship or marriage, this isn't something debatable. That's not to say we should outlaw it or ban it! No one has advocated anything of the sort, or made such a gesture! Yet, that is exactly how you and the lefties would love to frame this... religious kooks who want to ban masturbating! You can't BE honest, it's not something you can even relate to anymore.
And you have absolutely no evidence that she was right. In fact, common sense says something quite the opposite, as I explained.
No it doesn't. And yes I do have evidence. Masters and Johnson did extensive surveys and studies on sexuality in America, psychologists have been studying it for decades as well... Marriage counselors deal with these issues every single day. Let's not pretend we live in some kind of Internet Bubble world, where, if I don't post a LINK to something, I can't show evidence. Stop acting like a total and complete retard. If you are becoming sexually gratified and satisfied through looking at porn and masturbating, your spouse is experiencing neglect and lowered self-esteem, because you are being fulfilled in another way, not with her. How much of a fucktard do you have to be, not to understand that?
I'll tell you what do... you're married, I presume? Suggest to your wife that you not have sex for the next month, because you want to devote all your time to watching porn and jerking off. See how much that helps your marriage, goofball!
I could really give a shit what she said about masturbation and porn. But since you claim to have a degree in psychology, you should be at least slightly educated in sexuality and the dynamics of relationships. According to your logic, it would be preferable for a spouse to either be rejected and start resenting it, or to be pressured into having sex when they don't want it. But instead, you choose to ingore that and keep up with the "You can't shoot holes in common sense, without demonstrating idiocy" bullshit.
My LOGIC didn't mention anything about what might or might not be preferable. You are concocting more lies and distortions to prop up your 'argument' but it's not even making any sense anymore. It would be preferable if married men devoted their "love" to their wife, instead of a centerfold!
