Iran now Nuclear

Iran's mullahs wanted to open and maintain dialogue with the USA, but were rebuffed by the Shrub & company, who promptly demonized them as an Axis of Evil.

Iran assisted in gathering intelligence against Al Qaeda, and publically decried 9/11.

Hardly the actions of a gov't that advocates what you assert.

Again, I have no love or trust for the current Iranian regime, but I'll give them the same benefit of the doubt that is given to Israel.

OK,,, Well,,, I look at it in a more simple way. The Iranian regime is hell on earth.

Who would defend their (criminal) criminal law(s)? You Taichiliberal???
 
OK,,, Well,,, I look at it in a more simple way. The Iranian regime is hell on earth.

Who would defend their (criminal) criminal law(s)? You Taichiliberal???

Without defending their regime, can you explain why anyone thinks we have a right to decide which gov't get to stay and which we will replace?

And isn't meddling in the gov'ts of sovreign nations part of what got us in this mess to begin with?
 
Without defending their regime, can you explain why anyone thinks we have a right to decide which gov't get to stay and which we will replace?

And isn't meddling in the gov'ts of sovreign nations part of what got us in this mess to begin with?

They chant everyday for the death of the USA. Now they want nukes. They fund, and promote terror, and death.

Maybe we should wait.

I'm like you. I don't think we should be meddling in other gov'ts business. I do though in this case.
 
Well, its a wonderful thing that our new messiah is making nice with Iran and opening a dialog with these peace loving Muslims....a little bowing and scrapping can go a long way to gain their respect....
And that intell. from Iran sure has helped us in bringing those mis-guided AQ folks to justice....Osama should be in our hands within the hour....

In a speech on Saturday, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded directly to Barack Obama's video mash note from late last week. According to the Associated Press: "Khamenei, wearing a black turban and dark robes, said America was hated around the world for its arrogance, as the crowd chanted 'Death to America.'"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/03/iran_responds_death_to_america.asp

YouTube- "Death to America" chants in Iran
http://www.desivideonetwork.com/view/091idj8nw/iranian-kids-death-to-israel-death-to-america/


and now, excuse me while I vomit.

Bravo, just when I think you can't get any dumber, you surprise me.


Get a clue, you dunce.....current day Iran is OUR creation.....WE supported a coup against their leadership to install the Shah Pahvil, who brutalized the people with his CIA trained SAVAK (secret police) for decades....the strongest resistance group was the religous fundamentalist that gave us the Ayatollah Kohmeini. So all the "hate America" stuff is no surprise. But to add insult to injury, the nephew of Kohmeini was leading a political opposition group to revoke theocratic rule of the mullahs for something akin to the old ruling elect gov't prior to the Shah. That movement his the skids when the Shrub broke off all diplomatic gains by Clinton and started his "Axis of Evil" crap. The Shrub even blew a second chance when Iran gave us intel against Al Qaeda after 9/11.


As for your collection of vids, perhaps you forget the recent events:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/04/iran.ebadi/

You're "messiah" slam is so old and played that it's a pathetic testimony to the intellectually bankrupt neocon mindset that's still bitter about losing fair & square in 2008.

And dopes like you go suddenly quiet when your reminded about "House of Bush, House of Saud" (Craig Unger), or about how the Bin Ladin relatives were allowed to skip town after 9/11 with very little scrutiny.

Bravo, you're out of your league....you're just too fucking willfully stupid to deal with things other than with neocon blinders.

Until Israel's nuke program is given the same scrutiny as Iran's, I'll distrust both, but give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
Without defending their regime, can you explain why anyone thinks we have a right to decide which gov't get to stay and which we will replace?

And isn't meddling in the gov'ts of sovreign nations part of what got us in this mess to begin with?
I'll bet you're still raving and ranting about our meddling in Bosnia and Herzegovina...damning Slick Willy every day...
OR
maybe not....
 
It's just knee jerk neoconisms.....Iran is NO threat to the USA...the only people peeing their pants is Israel....and they have had the bomb for DECADES, without so much as a peep of official protest from the USA or various European countries.

I have no love or trust for the current Iranian regime, but I'll give them the same benefit of the doubt that is given to Israel.

The really ironic aspect is that it was the French that gave Israel the nuclear technology in the first place, aided by Norway who supplied several tonnes of heavy water. Later in the 1960s, Israel was widely thought to have smuggled more than 100 kilograms of highly enriched uranium out of a nuclear materials plant in Pennsylvania.

What I fail to understand is why Israel continues to deny the very existence of the Dimona nuclear facility, even to this day, despite it being the worst kept secret in the world. It just makes them look stupid and what's more fuels conspiracy theories. Why are they so arrogant to not even allow inspections by the IAEA and sign up to the NPT? Even North Korea, India and Pakistan have signed up and declared their nuclear capability, so why is Israel so special?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/israel/nuke.html
 
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Bravo, just when I think you can't get any dumber, you surprise me.


Get a clue, you dunce.....current day Iran is OUR creation.....WE supported a coup against their leadership to install the Shah Pahvil, who brutalized the people with his CIA trained SAVAK (secret police) for decades....the strongest resistance group was the religous fundamentalist that gave us the Ayatollah Kohmeini. So all the "hate America" stuff is no surprise. But to add insult to injury, the nephew of Kohmeini was leading a political opposition group to revoke theocratic rule of the mullahs for something akin to the old ruling elect gov't prior to the Shah. That movement his the skids when the Shrub broke off all diplomatic gains by Clinton and started his "Axis of Evil" crap. The Shrub even blew a second chance when Iran gave us intel against Al Qaeda after 9/11.

Of course...damn, I should have known,...Iran is our fault....how could I have overlooked that....why hell, everything is OUR FAULT....
WTC desaster was OUR FAULT
Saddam was OUR FAULT
Iran is OUR FAULT
The list is endless...

The US put Khomeini into power in Iran and thats why the government has the people shout "death to America".... Khomeini must not have like the US putting him in charge of the country....thats logic at its finest....

Our fault...our fault indeed....you moron
 
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Of course...damn, I should have known,...Iran is our fault....how could I have overlooked that....why hell, everything is OUR FAULT....
WTC desaster was OUR FAULT
Saddam was OUR FAULT
The list is endless...

The US put Khomeini into power in Iran and thats why the government has the people shout "death to America".... Khomeini must not have like the US putting him in charge of the country....thats logic at its finest....

Our fault...our fault indeed....you moron

Someone needs to look up "US foreign policy" on Google.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Again, nothing here advocates suicide.

As long as they take out at least one infidel when they blow themselves up, they don't consider it suicide.

That is YOUR personal supposition and conjecture...which has nothin to do with the FACT that the previous references you gave do NOT advocate suicide. This is why the VAST MAJORITY of muslims condemn sucide bombers and their interpretation that the Koran instructs them to do so.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Iran's mullahs wanted to open and maintain dialogue with the USA, but were rebuffed by the Shrub & company, who promptly demonized them as an Axis of Evil.

Iran assisted in gathering intelligence against Al Qaeda, and publically decried 9/11.

Hardly the actions of a gov't that advocates what you assert.

Again, I have no love or trust for the current Iranian regime, but I'll give them the same benefit of the doubt that is given to Israel.
OK,,, Well,,, I look at it in a more simple way. The Iranian regime is hell on earth.

Who would defend their (criminal) criminal law(s)? You Taichiliberal???

There are a LOT of gov't actions around the world that I don't approve of...that doesn't mean I automatically accept everything negative said about them.
 
Of course...damn, I should have known,...Iran is our fault....how could I have overlooked that....why hell, everything is OUR FAULT....
WTC desaster was OUR FAULT
Saddam was OUR FAULT
Iran is OUR FAULT
The list is endless...

The US put Khomeini into power in Iran and thats why the government has the people shout "death to America".... Khomeini must not have like the US putting him in charge of the country....thats logic at its finest....

Our fault...our fault indeed....you moron

Bravo, are you SO dim that you think you can edit out what you don't like and then blather on as if your mental flatulence has merit?


Here folks, is what our idiot Bravo can't deal with:

Bravo, just when I think you can't get any dumber, you surprise me.


Get a clue, you dunce.....current day Iran is OUR creation.....WE supported a coup against their leadership to install the Shah Pahvil, who brutalized the people with his CIA trained SAVAK (secret police) for decades....the strongest resistance group was the religous fundamentalist that gave us the Ayatollah Kohmeini. So all the "hate America" stuff is no surprise. But to add insult to injury, the nephew of Kohmeini was leading a political opposition group to revoke theocratic rule of the mullahs for something akin to the old ruling elect gov't prior to the Shah. That movement his the skids when the Shrub broke off all diplomatic gains by Clinton and started his "Axis of Evil" crap. The Shrub even blew a second chance when Iran gave us intel against Al Qaeda after 9/11.


As for your collection of vids, perhaps you forget the recent events:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/04/iran.ebadi/

You're "messiah" slam is so old and played that it's a pathetic testimony to the intellectually bankrupt neocon mindset that's still bitter about losing fair & square in 2008.

And dopes like you go suddenly quiet when your reminded about "House of Bush, House of Saud" (Craig Unger), or about how the Bin Ladin relatives were allowed to skip town after 9/11 with very little scrutiny.

Bravo, you're out of your league....you're just too fucking willfully stupid to deal with things other than with neocon blinders.

Until Israel's nuke program is given the same scrutiny as Iran's, I'll distrust both, but give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
That is YOUR personal supposition and conjecture...which has nothin to do with the FACT that the previous references you gave do NOT advocate suicide. This is why the VAST MAJORITY of muslims condemn sucide bombers and their interpretation that the Koran instructs them to do so.
We're not talking about my interpretations or the interpretations of the vast majority of Muslims, but the interpretations of the radicals who make up 1% or so of Muslims. And one percent of a billion is a lot of suicide bombers.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
That is YOUR personal supposition and conjecture...which has nothin to do with the FACT that the previous references you gave do NOT advocate suicide. This is why the VAST MAJORITY of muslims condemn sucide bombers and their interpretation that the Koran instructs them to do so.

We're not talking about my interpretations or the interpretations of the vast majority of Muslims, but the interpretations of the radicals who make up 1% or so of Muslims. And one percent of a billion is a lot of suicide bombers.

I strongly suggest you do some honest research as to what our intelligence services and those of our allies say about the estimated numbers of Al Qaeda members and the Taliban......THEY FALL FAR SHORT OF THE NUMBER YOU SUGGEST.

And for the record, just where did you get your stat anyway? Because if what you say were true, then 9/11 would have included masses of radical troops.....they would have poured into Iraq during post our invasion, and they would have held Afghanistan. AS hisotry shows, none of this happened.
 
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I strongly suggest you do some honest research as to what our intelligence services and those of our allies say about the estimated numbers of Al Qaeda members and the Taliban......THEY FALL FAR SHORT OF THE NUMBER YOU SUGGEST.

And for the record, just where did you get your stat anyway? Because if what you say were true, then 9/11 would have included masses of radical troops.....they would have poured into Iraq during post our invasion, and they would have held Afghanistan. AS hisotry shows, none of this happened.
In a typical group, 1% is typically radical. Your attempt to make radical = Taliban is a straw man.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I strongly suggest you do some honest research as to what our intelligence services and those of our allies say about the estimated numbers of Al Qaeda members and the Taliban......THEY FALL FAR SHORT OF THE NUMBER YOU SUGGEST.

And for the record, just where did you get your stat anyway? Because if what you say were true, then 9/11 would have included masses of radical troops.....they would have poured into Iraq during post our invasion, and they would have held Afghanistan. AS hisotry shows, none of this happened.


In a typical group, 1% is typically radical. Your attempt to make radical = Taliban is a straw man.

Maybe you're not comprehending what I previously posted....or maybe you're just being stubborn to the point of insipidness.

You provide NO documented, valid facts to back up your assertions. And to make matters worse, you include some absurd accusation against me that the chronology of the posts just doesn't support.

Come, come, my good man.....pull yourself together and bring some rational, logical air to your part of the discussion.
 
Maybe you're not comprehending what I previously posted....or maybe you're just being stubborn to the point of insipidness.

You provide NO documented, valid facts to back up your assertions. And to make matters worse, you include some absurd accusation against me that the chronology of the posts just doesn't support.

Come, come, my good man.....pull yourself together and bring some rational, logical air to your part of the discussion.
Do you deny that radical Islam uses suicide bombers?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Maybe you're not comprehending what I previously posted....or maybe you're just being stubborn to the point of insipidness.

You provide NO documented, valid facts to back up your assertions. And to make matters worse, you include some absurd accusation against me that the chronology of the posts just doesn't support.

Come, come, my good man.....pull yourself together and bring some rational, logical air to your part of the discussion.

Do you deny that radical Islam uses suicide bombers?

And there you have it folks....Damn Yankee makes a statement that he cannot support or corroborated with documented facts or valid source material. But facts (or the lack there of) have never stopped Damn Yankee (or folk like him) from trying to pass off their supposition and conjecture as fact. And when caught flat footed, DY does the typical neocon shuffle....trying to change the subject and make some absurd allegation.

Pity the chronology of the posts makes DY out to be the fool for all to see. So unless he's going to put up proof of his claim or admit he just conjured it up, I'll leave him to his folly.
 
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