China Sees U.S. as a "Giant With a Limp"

martin

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A grinding war in Iran has so severely drained American firepower that Chinese analysts are openly questioning Washington’s ability to defend Taiwan. That shifting calculus threatens to undercut President Trump’s leverage in his high-stakes summit next week with China’s top leader, Xi Jinping.

Since the war began in late February, the United States has burned through around half of its long-range stealth cruise missiles and fired off roughly 10 times the number of Tomahawk cruise missiles it currently buys each year, according to internal Defense Department estimates and congressional officials.

To some Chinese military and geopolitical analysts, the war has done more than deplete U.S. munitions stockpiles, it has also shattered America’s aura of dominance. They argue that it has exposed a major flaw in U.S. war strategy: its inability to make weapons quickly enough to replenish its arsenal in a sustained, intense conflict.

This depletion “has significantly diminished the U.S. military’s ability to project its combat power, laying bare the shortcomings of its global military hegemony,” said Yue Gang, a retired colonel of the People’s Liberation Army, in an interview.

Such arguments help fuel a narrative among hawkish Chinese commentators, and potentially in the government, that American forces could no longer effectively defend Taiwan should the United States and China ever go to war over the self-governed island. The logic of Chinese nationalists is that since the United States has been unable to achieve a quick victory against Iran, a regional military power, then it would most likely have even less success against China, which the analysts see as a peer competitor.

From this perspective, the U.S. impasse with Iran weakens Mr. Trump’s position going into talks with Mr. Xi next week.

“Trump originally intended to visit China with the air of a swift victor, leveraging his position to increase pressure on China,” Mr. Yue said. “Now, however, with the conflict deadlocked and the military campaign stalled, he finds himself in a difficult position.”

Mr. Trump, he added, “will be unable to project the same arrogance.”


 
Taiwan is a province of China. Getting involved in the Taiwan issue will be a historic strategic mistake for the United States. Unfortunately, it seems no one can stop the U.S. from making that mistake.
 
Any U.S. president who tries to keep the country from making this mistake will be called a coward by Americans. People are so used to using Chamberlain as an analogy for this situation, without realizing that this way of thinking will lead inevitably toward war. Of course, I know Americans have unwavering faith in their country's ability to fight a war.
 
Any U.S. president who tries to keep the country from making this mistake will be called a coward by Americans. People are so used to using Chamberlain as an analogy for this situation, without realizing that this way of thinking will lead inevitably toward war. Of course, I know Americans have unwavering faith in their country's ability to fight a war.
The Master of Nonsense
 
A grinding war in Iran has so severely drained American firepower that Chinese analysts are openly questioning Washington’s ability to defend Taiwan. That shifting calculus threatens to undercut President Trump’s leverage in his high-stakes summit next week with China’s top leader, Xi Jinping.

Since the war began in late February, the United States has burned through around half of its long-range stealth cruise missiles and fired off roughly 10 times the number of Tomahawk cruise missiles it currently buys each year, according to internal Defense Department estimates and congressional officials.

To some Chinese military and geopolitical analysts, the war has done more than deplete U.S. munitions stockpiles, it has also shattered America’s aura of dominance. They argue that it has exposed a major flaw in U.S. war strategy: its inability to make weapons quickly enough to replenish its arsenal in a sustained, intense conflict.

This depletion “has significantly diminished the U.S. military’s ability to project its combat power, laying bare the shortcomings of its global military hegemony,” said Yue Gang, a retired colonel of the People’s Liberation Army, in an interview.

Such arguments help fuel a narrative among hawkish Chinese commentators, and potentially in the government, that American forces could no longer effectively defend Taiwan should the United States and China ever go to war over the self-governed island. The logic of Chinese nationalists is that since the United States has been unable to achieve a quick victory against Iran, a regional military power, then it would most likely have even less success against China, which the analysts see as a peer competitor.

From this perspective, the U.S. impasse with Iran weakens Mr. Trump’s position going into talks with Mr. Xi next week.

“Trump originally intended to visit China with the air of a swift victor, leveraging his position to increase pressure on China,” Mr. Yue said. “Now, however, with the conflict deadlocked and the military campaign stalled, he finds himself in a difficult position.”

Mr. Trump, he added, “will be unable to project the same arrogance.”


It's impossible to understate how delusional this article and the moron that created the thread really is. Here's an article by Tobytone that correctly states reality and every fact is verifiable and accurate. I'm wrong? Tell me what I got wrong by supplying the receipts for whatever dumbass claim you make.

Marty's copy/paste article and comment is nothing more than pathetic libtard drivel from clueless hacks who clearly slept through the last year and a half of Trump turning China into a whimpering beggar at the negotiating table. This so called 'grinding war in Iran' didn't drain American firepower it torched Iran's regime and China's last fat oil lifeline that Trump already strangled with sanctions Abraham Accords 2.0 and now fresh Treasury hammer blows on every Chinese refinery slurping discounted Iranian crude. The article whines that the US burned through half its long range stealth cruise missiles and ten times the yearly Tomahawk buys since late February. Typical libtard fantasies. Under Trump's defense surge we quadrupled production lines at Raytheon and Lockheed faster than Beijing could even dream while their entire navy remains a rusting joke that can't sail past the first island chain without American subs laughing at them.

The 'piece' (of shit) claims this 'depletion shattered America's aura of dominance' and exposed some fatal flaw in US war strategy. Bullshit. The Iran operation proved exactly the opposite. We achieved rapid dominance over a regional thug while China watched their biggest energy discount evaporate and their Belt and Road vassals in the Middle East scramble for new supporters. Chinese analysts are openly coping because they know the truth. Every Trump move since day one has gutted Beijing's dream of dominating the world and controlling every major choke point from the Panama Canal to the Arctic to the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump slammed China with savage tariffs from day one that demolished their economy and triggered mass reshoring, crushed Beijing’s enormous financial holdings and cheap oil access in Venezuela also giving Xi a little message like you can't hide and you're not safe anywhere if you get froggy, seized back full control of the Panama Canal from Chinese operators, slammed the door shut on Beijing’s Arctic ambitions in Greenland, forced NATO allies and Asian partners into record military spending surges, forged AUKUS and the Quad into unbreakable choke-point dominators across the Indo-Pacific, and left Beijing hopelessly behind in the critical AI chip race and space domain race.

Now the Iran war the supposed game changer that supposedly leaves Trump 'unable to project the same arrogance' at the Xi summit. Laughable. The conflict started in late February and yes we expended munitions but the US restocked at record speed thanks to Trump's pre war defense budget explosions. More importantly it destroyed Iran's ability to keep pumping cheap oil to China which was buying over a million barrels a day at a discount. Fresh Treasury sanctions hammered Chinese refineries and shadow fleets cutting off Tehran's revenue and Beijing's energy crutch simultaneously. China now faces skyrocketing oil prices inflation and supply chaos while the US secured the Strait of Hormuz with insurance backstops and naval presence. Far from weakening America the operation exposed China's total dependence on unstable partners and proved our military can handle sustained ops without breaking a sweat. Let's not forget the other little message that screams, make a move and we hit the top dog on day one. That's Xi, the poor bastard wouldn't see the 2nd day of any war he started against the US.

Every single Trump move since day one Panama, Greenland, Venezuela, NATO spending, AUKUS Quad tariffs, AI chips, space dominance, Iran sanctions has systematically dismantled China's plan to control the world's choke points dominate supply chains and replace America as global hegemon. Their economy is in freefall their military is a paper tiger their alliances are crumbling, and their 'analysts' are reduced to writing fan fiction about US weakness for the comsumption of morons like the JPP libtards. Trump walks into that summit with Xi next week as the strongest president any nation has ever faced in modern history holding all the cards zero desperation and a world that finally respects American strength again.

The libtard article is pure cope from people who hate Trump more than they love reality. China is infinitely worse off because of him and the Iran conflict just delivered the final kick in the teeth to Beijing's delusions. Deal with it libtards. Trump wins again.
 
I feel that two Chinas has been a reality long enough that all parties should concede to it.
If the PRC decides to annex Taiwan, that will be the undeniable proof that the US is no longer the world's premier military superpower, this despite spending twenty-five times more than anybody else on its military.

And if the US is no longer the world's premier military superpower, then it's no longer the world's best at anything at all. Well, maybe agriculture--I don't know enough about that.
 
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