Did Israel miscalculate in launching the war on Iran? Was Trump duped into going along with Israel's plan?

[Cypress]

Yep,...and THAT will be exactly what happens. Much to the dismay of the anti freedom anti American Left. And yes.......you can count on the fact that you're noses will be rubbed in it daily.

Stone = Neocon

 

[Phantasmal]

This is yet another Afghanistan. Only Iran has a lot more modern weapons, a well-trained and equipped army and air force, and the will to stand up to two common enemies -- us and Israel. Anyone stupid enough and ignorant of human nature to think that bombing them was going to get the population to overthrow their own familiar govt. is an idiot and a MAGAT. Oops, that's redundant.

The air force was destroyed, pretty much, but Iran, unlike the USA has moved into the modern age of drone warfare. They have replaced expensive equipment with drones.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I think the offramp Trump is looking for is just unilaterally declaring 'victory', giving the Iranians some concessions to open the Strait of Hormuz, and then cutting and running leaving the hardline regime in place.

Agree. And of course he'll falsely declare that the new regime is kissing his ass and what a great deal he negiated.

 

[Cypress]

The air force was destroyed, pretty much, but Iran, unlike the USA has moved into the modern age of drone warfare. They have replaced expensive equipment with drones.

Good point.

MAGA morons are living in the 20th century, and measuring progress in Trump's War based on body counts and ships sunk.

Iran has been preparing for a hybrid, asymmetric war for years, and they are going to use economic warfare, cheap drones, and cyber warfare to pursue their goals.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I think the offramp Trump is looking for is just unilaterally declaring 'victory', giving the Iranians some concessions to open the Strait of Hormuz, and then cutting and running leaving the hardline regime in place.

That may very well be the final result.

I think he wants to invade, but knows that's a redline for many Congressional MAGAts not to mention many MAGAt voters.

Only complete fucking morons think this war with Iran, much less invading Iran itself, is a good idea.

Example:

They have no air force anymore, or navy, or air defenses which is why we are flying AT WILL over Iran as we speak.

 

[Lionfish]

 

[Cypress]

That may very well be the final result.

I think he wants to invade, but knows that's a redline for many Congressional MAGAts not to mention many MAGAt voters.

Only complete fucking morons think this war with Iran, much less invading Iran itself, is a good idea.

Example:

Stone is a Neocon.

Victory is not determined or acquired by body counts or enemy aircraft destroyed. Otherwise we would have been the victors in Vietnam.

This is the 21st century era of hybrid asymmetric warfare.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Stone is a Neocon.

Victory is not determined or acquired by body counts or enemy aircraft destroyed. Otherwise we would have been the victors in Vietnam.

This is the 21st century era of hybrid asymmetric warfare.

Agreed.

Worse, Trump is depleting our munition stocks, which will not only require billions more of national debt, but weaken us in a confrontation with other hostile nations.

All the MAGA morons see are dead Muslims and their Orange Messiah declaring victory.

 

[Noking]

There a couple possibility that I can think of for Crazy Trump to invade Iran:

A. He needs a victory to spiff-up his sagging approval rating; Venezuela was an easy take over and he expected the same., and also he's talking about invading Cuba.

B. He's responding to flattery from Netanyahu; Narcissistic Crazy Trump is well known to be responsive to flattery.

 

[Noking]

Stone is a Neocon.

Victory is not determined or acquired by body counts or enemy aircraft destroyed. Otherwise we would have been the victors in Vietnam.

This is the 21st century era of hybrid asymmetric warfare.

Stoney is a pathetic case.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Stoney is a pathetic case.

He's a typical MAGA man-child who needs a daddy to take care of him. Sad.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Obama’s agreement is the one they are trying to convince Iran to sign now. Isn’t it ironic.

Trump keeps proving he'll do anything to tarnish Obama's legacy including stealing the Iran agreement and claiming it as his own.

 

[Phantasmal]

That may very well be the final result.

I think he wants to invade, but knows that's a redline for many Congressional MAGAts not to mention many MAGAt voters.

Only complete fucking morons think this war with Iran, much less invading Iran itself, is a good idea.

Example:

His most devouted MAGAts are giving him a pass, saw a couple of MAGAts in Arkansas say they trust DonOld knows what he’s doing.
They are that stupid.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

His most devouted MAGAts are giving him a pass, saw a couple of MAGAts in Arkansas say they trust DonOld knows what he’s doing.
They are that stupid.

Sadly true.

 

[Monad Portal]

That may very well be the final result.

I think he wants to invade, but knows that's a redline for many Congressional MAGAts not to mention many MAGAt voters.

Only complete fucking morons think this war with Iran, much less invading Iran itself, is a good idea.

Example:

what does Schumer think?