Democrats = failed ideas, still running against bush

Do you understand Bush was for big government? NCLB, the pill bill etc. are big government ideas. They weren't conservative ideas.

THese are Conservagtive Ideas, passed by a Conservative sennate and a conservative house.... and signed by a conservative president elected by a conservative base and still loved by the radicals of the party.

Dixie is a great example of what I call a true conservative.... He STILL LOVES BUSH!
 
So your argument is that Conservatives voted for Obama because Bush was only pretending to be a Conservative?

Hell, I guarantee had Bush been elegable for another term, he would have been the nominee for the Conservative party once again!
No, my statement is that they stayed home rather than continue to vote for those they believed to be fiscally irresponsible, or like me they voted third party. It doesn't take that many to turn an election.

Dude, if Ronald Reagan was resurrected he would have lost to whomever the Ds nominated in 2008, because the "base" wasn't going to take it any longer.
 
No, my statement is that they stayed home rather than continue to vote for those they believed to be fiscally irresponsible, or like me they voted third party. It doesn't take that many to turn an election.

Dude, if Ronald Reagan was resurrected he would have lost to whomever the Ds nominated in 2008, because the "base" wasn't going to take it any longer.

Funny, more people voted in 2008 than any other presidental election ever...!
 
No, my statement is that they stayed home rather than continue to vote for those they believed to be fiscally irresponsible, or like me they voted third party. It doesn't take that many to turn an election.

Dude, if Ronald Reagan was resurrected he would have lost to whomever the Ds nominated in 2008, because the "base" wasn't going to take it any longer.

Most of your posts tend to be wishful thinking.

The #'s don't back you up. Republicans haven't lost the last couple of elections because of the base. They've lost because they lost independents.
 
And Democrats get elected and prove that they should fear that power... It's a twisted tree we climb.


Whatever that means.

This ridiculous revisionism of Bush as not conservative is hilarious. Hell, in December 2008 his approval rating among conservative Republicans was 72%. If they didn't like him or his policies they had an odd way of showing it.
 
And Democrats get elected and prove that they should fear that power... It's a twisted tree we climb.

Because things changed so much when Obama was elected, right?

There is that dichotomy you were talking about earlier. You guys always want it both ways...
 
THese are Conservagtive Ideas, passed by a Conservative sennate and a conservative house.... and signed by a conservative president elected by a conservative base and still loved by the radicals of the party.

Dixie is a great example of what I call a true conservative.... He STILL LOVES BUSH!

Good for Dixie. You trying to use Dixie as your example to call Bush conservative is an extreme fail.

I was assuming you knew that conservative and liberals hold ideas. Conservatives believe in one thing liberals believe in another thing. Thus one can do things that fall into the realm of conservative or liberal and do other things that fall outside of it.

Because Bush or Obama does something doesn't mean that conservative or liberal beliefs have changed. I don't think it's that hard to understand.
 
Whatever that means.

This ridiculous revisionism of Bush as not conservative is hilarious. Hell, in December 2008 his approval rating among conservative Republicans was 72%. If they didn't like him or his policies they had an odd way of showing it.

THIS!
 
Good for Dixie. You trying to use Dixie as your example to call Bush conservative is an extreme fail.

I was assuming you knew that conservative and liberals hold ideas. Conservatives believe in one thing liberals believe in another thing. Thus one can do things that fall into the realm of conservative or liberal and do other things that fall outside of it.

Because Bush or Obama does something doesn't mean that conservative or liberal beliefs have changed. I don't think it's that hard to understand.

Bush is the result of Conservative thinking...
 
Dixie doesn't LOVE BUSH! Dixie wrote a sarcastic thread in the height of all the "Bush Hate" from the left, where virtually every thread on the board began with "I Hate Bush!" Since that time, clueless morons like Jarhead, have mistakenly presumed I seriously have personal affections toward George W. Bush. Often exemplified with a misquote taken from that thread, "I love the way Bush looks in jeans" ...which I never actually said. I did indicate I loved how he was comfortable enough to do an interview in jeans.

While I believe Bush made a better president than Al Gore or John Kerry ever would have, I am far from a Bush fan. I didn't like Bush Sr. when he was running against Reagan, and I never trusted him as president. Pinheads should give credit where credit is due, Bush Sr. coined the phrase "voodoo economics" and was the FIRST politician to attack Regan's economic ideas. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, G.W. gave us "compassionate conservatism" which is really a code word for "fiscal liberal!"

One huge problem we always seem to have with strong social conservatives, they tend to be fiscally liberal as well. I think a balance is needed, that's what Reagan had. He was a social conservative, but fiscally conservative too.
 
Dixie doesn't LOVE BUSH! Dixie wrote a sarcastic thread in the height of all the "Bush Hate" from the left, where virtually every thread on the board began with "I Hate Bush!" Since that time, clueless morons like Jarhead, have mistakenly presumed I seriously have personal affections toward George W. Bush. Often exemplified with a misquote taken from that thread, "I love the way Bush looks in jeans" ...which I never actually said. I did indicate I loved how he was comfortable enough to do an interview in jeans.

While I believe Bush made a better president than Al Gore or John Kerry ever would have, I am far from a Bush fan. I didn't like Bush Sr. when he was running against Reagan, and I never trusted him as president. Pinheads should give credit where credit is due, Bush Sr. coined the phrase "voodoo economics" and was the FIRST politician to attack Regan's economic ideas. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, G.W. gave us "compassionate conservatism" which is really a code word for "fiscal liberal!"

One huge problem we always seem to have with strong social conservatives, they tend to be fiscally liberal as well. I think a balance is needed, that's what Reagan had. He was a social conservative, but fiscally conservative too.


How can you possibly claim that Reagan was fiscally conservative while Bush wasn't?
 
Funny, more people voted in 2008 than any other presidental election ever...!
Yeah, the movement helped make that happen, and the disgust of conservatives with the party handed the Senate in Supermajority to the Ds.
 
Because things changed so much when Obama was elected, right?

There is that dichotomy you were talking about earlier. You guys always want it both ways...
Again, that is because you fail to read what I write. Continue the worst of Bush policies in regards to freedoms (expanding warrantless wiretapping after promising to end it for one) and go even further into fiscal irresponsibility and government control from cradle to grave...

It isn't "both ways"... there is no dichotomy except in the mind of the apologist.
 
Again, that is because you fail to read what I write. Continue the worst of Bush policies in regards to freedoms (expanding warrantless wiretapping after promising to end it for one) and go even further into fiscal irresponsibility and government control from cradle to grave...

It isn't "both ways"... there is no dichotomy except in the mind of the apologist.


You're hilarious. Conservative Republicans loved Bush (72% approval rating in December 2008) and hate Obama (8% approval rating currently). This pretense that there was all this disgust with Bush is crap. And, not coincidentally, conservative Republicans make up the overwhelming majority of Tea Party supporters:

PRINCETON, NJ -- There is significant overlap between Americans who identify as supporters of the Tea Party movement and those who identify as conservative Republicans. Their similar ideological makeup and views suggest that the Tea Party movement is more a rebranding of core Republicanism than a new or distinct entity on the American political scene.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141098/tea-party-supporters-overlap-republican-base.aspx
 
You're hilarious. Conservative Republicans loved Bush (72% approval rating in December 2008) and hate Obama (8% approval rating currently). This pretense that there was all this disgust with Bush is crap. And, not coincidentally, conservative Republicans make up the overwhelming majority of Tea Party supporters:



http://www.gallup.com/poll/141098/tea-party-supporters-overlap-republican-base.aspx

Palin, the darling of the Tea Party is supported by the same group that love(d) Bush.
 
REpublicans...

Elect a fool because he is like you...

Disclaim that fool, then elect his son!
 
HEll, you Conservatives spuge in your pants when Jeb Bush hints he might run.
 
But you said it was because people stayed home?
Yes. Many new people voted because of the "movement", however enough conservatives either stayed home or voted third party (like me) to hand the house and senate supermajorities. Why do I have to explain it in such minutia? Seriously, it is very obvious. Specifically Libertarian style Conservatives were hacked off... It's one of the reasons why you got later stories showing how the Rs were "disturbed" by the "libertarianism" of the TEA Party...

It doesn't take that many, especially coupled with the "excitement" of voting for "change"...
 
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