Should STY get a machine gun?

If he desires a full auto firearm, why not? Personally, I think it's a waste of money - ammo isn't cheap. And a decent shooter can hit a target (ie: what they're aiming at), more times, faster, with a good semi-auto. But for those who have the money to throw down range, and simply like to "rock and roll" for shits-n-grins, why should anyone say they cannot? (unless they have lost their right to keep and bear arms of any kind due to violent crime history.)
 
Seriously though I don't think the Founders envisioned a society where folks would be touting Uzis. Semi-auto, concealed carry, hollow points, yes; full auto with 30 round clips, no.
 
A driver caught stealing beer from the warehouse where he worked agreed to resign his job Tuesday and then as "cold as ice," one of his victims said, went on a shooting rampage, killing eight people and injuring two before committing suicide.

Omar Thornton, 34, pulled out a handgun after a meeting in which he was shown video evidence of the thefts and was offered the chance to quit or be fired.

"Then he went out on this rampage," company vice president Steve Hollander told The Associated Press. "He was cool and calm. He didn't yell. He was cold as ice. He didn't protest when we were meeting with him to show him the video of him stealing. He didn't contest it. He didn't complain. He didn't argue. He didn't admit or deny anything. He just agreed to resign. And then he just unexplainably pulled out his gun and started blasting."


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBNP73m9cp2g6qFtWxCbJH6IAD3gD9HCBJGO0

Maybe he was planning a beer summit with Obama.

View attachment 485
 
webbway said:
A driver caught stealing beer from the warehouse where he worked agreed to resign his job Tuesday and then as "cold as ice," one of his victims said, went on a shooting rampage, killing eight people and injuring two before committing suicide.

Omar Thornton, 34, pulled out a handgun after a meeting in which he was shown video evidence of the thefts and was offered the chance to quit or be fired.

"Then he went out on this rampage," company vice president Steve Hollander told The Associated Press. "He was cool and calm. He didn't yell. He was cold as ice. He didn't protest when we were meeting with him to show him the video of him stealing. He didn't contest it. He didn't complain. He didn't argue. He didn't admit or deny anything. He just agreed to resign. And then he just unexplainably pulled out his gun and started blasting."


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBNP73m9cp2g6qFtWxCbJH6IAD3gD9HCBJGO0

Maybe he was planning a beer summit with Obama.

View attachment 485
Click to expand...

This is the fault of the firearms prohibition.
 
Southern Man said:
Seriously though I don't think the Founders envisioned a society where folks would be touting Uzis. Semi-auto, concealed carry, hollow points, yes; full auto with 30 round clips, no.
Click to expand...
Seriously, though, I do not think the founders envisioned a world where common foot soldiers are touting full auto AKs, Uzis, M-16s, M-60s, RPKs, etc. etc. etc.

What the common foot soldier carries should be available to the U.S. militia - meaning everyone according to the 1780 definition of militia.

Not to mention, where is the harm of law-abiding citizens having the firearms they desire? Because you are scared of the idea? Too f'n bad for you. Let's join the totalitarians because you don't think the founders foresaw auto firearms! Since when is the lack of the founders' clairvoyance an excuse to limit freedom?

(Clue: what the founders DID foresee is the dangers of a government having a monopoly, or near-monopoly on military power, regardless of the level of firearms used. When they were through setting up the Republic, people could own personal cannon, complete with every type of shell available at the time. No one had a problem with that.)
 
Good Luck said:
Seriously, though, I do not think the founders envisioned a world where common foot soldiers are touting full auto AKs, Uzis, M-16s, M-60s, RPKs, etc. etc. etc.

What the common foot soldier carries should be available to the U.S. militia - meaning everyone according to the 1780 definition of militia.

Not to mention, where is the harm of law-abiding citizens having the firearms they desire? Because you are scared of the idea? Too f'n bad for you. Let's join the totalitarians because you don't think the founders foresaw auto firearms! Since when is the lack of the founders' clairvoyance an excuse to limit freedom?

(Clue: what the founders DID foresee is the dangers of a government having a monopoly, or near-monopoly on military power, regardless of the level of firearms used. When they were through setting up the Republic, people could own personal cannon, complete with every type of shell available at the time. No one had a problem with that.)
Click to expand...

This is what people seem to be so quick to ignore. That the founding fathers wanted the population to be able to stand up and throw off the yoke of servitude by force, if necessary.

While I understand the fear factor in banning fully automatic firearms, I don't think the founding fathers visions of the future count in that. I doubt that they invisioned a future in which half teh registered voters wouldn't bother to show up either.
 
Good Luck said:
Seriously, though, I do not think the founders envisioned a world where common foot soldiers are touting full auto AKs, Uzis, M-16s, M-60s, RPKs, etc. etc. etc.

What the common foot soldier carries should be available to the U.S. militia - meaning everyone according to the 1780 definition of militia.

Not to mention, where is the harm of law-abiding citizens having the firearms they desire? Because you are scared of the idea? Too f'n bad for you. Let's join the totalitarians because you don't think the founders foresaw auto firearms! Since when is the lack of the founders' clairvoyance an excuse to limit freedom?

(Clue: what the founders DID foresee is the dangers of a government having a monopoly, or near-monopoly on military power, regardless of the level of firearms used. When they were through setting up the Republic, people could own personal cannon, complete with every type of shell available at the time. No one had a problem with that.)
Click to expand...

Common foot soldiers also carry grenades. Should these be for sale at Wal Mart as well?
 
Southern Man said:
Common foot soldiers also carry grenades. Should these be for sale at Wal Mart as well?
Click to expand...

Should the gov't regulate everything that can be used to kill people?

If you want to use the phrase "I don't think the Founders envisioned...", then be prepared for others to use that same phrase against other constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.


First Amendment
"I don't think the Founders envisioned a time when one person could speak via the media and send millions out seeking blood."

"I don't think the Founders envisioned at time when the press could hide terrorists and threaten national security"


Fourth Amendment
"I don't think the Founders envisioned a time when global communication could be of such vital importance to our national security"


Tenth Amendment
"I don't think the Founders envisioned a time when the interests of all the states could be jeopardized by the actions of a few states"
 
Southern Man said:
Your words, not mine, and retarded.
Click to expand...

Nice rebuttal. YOu call it retarded and think that should suffice?

If you use ""I don't think the Founders envisioned..." for one amendment, then others can use it for other amendments.

My argument is valid.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top