Senate Majority Leader John Thune has officially signed on as a CO-SPONSOR of the SAVE America Act

I guess no libtards want to try and defend their corrupt party. Lefty is just begging for attention as usual, but no attempts to explain how showing an ID is racist like their 'leader' claims. 'It's Jim Crow 2.0' says Chuck using the same tired line he always does when the cheating they've perfected over the years is threatened. Let's face it, if some states didn't ignore their own constitutions and this law was in place in 2020, Trump wouldn't be president right now, as he would have already had his two terms. It's funny how things work out. In some ways I think we needed the libtard nightmare to wake up many people that had fallen victim to complacency and hopelessness pre-Trump. Obviously libtards see things a bit differently, lol.

Fair and legitimate elections are crucial for politicians to get the message and react accordingly. That's call representation. Without the threat of losing their next election, they will only do things that increase their power and ensure their longevity. Look at the morons that are happy to go on TV and argue that men in woman sports is not only ok but crucial to protect transgender rights. What do they have in common? They are in districts where for one reason or another they have zero concern about winning their next elections even with a clear 80/20 issue. Why are they seemingly unafraid of losing? It seems to me that since the open borders and all the 'Covid changes' to voting rules more and more politicians seem to have no problem siding with the 20% and against the 80%. Hmmm, most unusual wouldn't you think? If the Save Act passes, I expect we'll see a reduction of those willing to give the middle finger to their voters. In the long run it will help save the democrat party, bringing it back to a party that responds to the majority of their voters again.

So, any of you care to explain why this is an attack on the vote? How it's not far more important that we prove we are eligible to vote, than it is to enter a Hollywood awards show for example. Please explain why the idea of your vote being cancelled by someone from another country doesn't bother you. How you can still support the 99.5% of your party that have no problem with your vote being cancelled by non-citizens and dead people. Not one of you will even try.
 
What's going to be funny to see, is when all you stupid rednecks who are so overjoyed about this because you think it's only going to hurt voter turnout on the left, start to realize that it's going to cut both ways by decreasing turnout on the right as well.
^^ NoNads seriously thinks that election fraud is "voter turnout" :rofl2: TOO FUNNY!
You morons have this idea in your little peanut brains that the only people who don't have adequate ID documents are illegal immigrants and poor, low educated minorities.

What you don't seem to be taking into account is that many of the people this will affect, if anyone, are poor and elderly white conservatives who live out in rural districts without ready transportation available to towns where they can get their ID documents in order.
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In reality though, this will likely have very little effect on either side.
Here, you're correct. Why? Because it likely won't get passed. Why? Because Team Elephant are the biggest bunch of LOSERS in politics (who will be faux outraged about "those darn Democrats" while hiding behind the filibuster rule that they refuse to nuke)...
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The best thing to come out of this as far as I can see, is that it will hopefully knock a big, fat hole in the right's big, fat lie about widespread voter fraud.
Why do you oppose making elections more secure?
Why do you oppose auditing election results?
You idiots and losers will have to invent a new bogus excuse for losing elections.
How did the last election turn out?
Eventually you'll paint yourselves into a corner.
:rolleyes:
 
^^ NoNads seriously thinks that election fraud is "voter turnout" :rofl2: TOO FUNNY!
It is an established fact that voter fraud is nowhere near widespread enough to alter the results of any election.
Reflects your standard response to everything.
Here, you're correct. Why? Because it likely won't get passed. Why? Because Team Elephant are the biggest bunch of LOSERS in politics (who will be faux outraged about "those darn Democrats" while hiding behind the filibuster rule that they refuse to nuke)...
Bullshit.

It's because they know it's not a problem, but keeping the fake issue alive for propaganda purposes to keep idiots like you riled up is of great value to them.
Why do you oppose making elections more secure?
It's already secure.

Why do you keep flogging fake issues like this one?
Why do you oppose auditing election results?
I don't.

I supported all the 2020 recounts which BTW, confirmed Biden won in every district they were held in.
How did the last election turn out?

:rolleyes:
It turned out the way the voters voted.

Funny how none of you MAGAtards came out screaming about voter fraud last time.

Lying shit is all MAGA represents.
 
What's going to be funny to see, is when all you stupid rednecks who are so overjoyed about this because you think it's only going to hurt voter turnout on the left, start to realize that it's going to cut both ways by decreasing turnout on the right as well.
I don’t care how or which way it cuts. I just want to see fair and honest elections.
You morons have this idea in your little peanut brains that the only people who don't have adequate ID documents are illegal immigrants and poor, low educated minorities.
A defining characteristic of far left loons. They consider themselves mind readers.
Of course poor low educated minorities have IDs.
What you don't seem to be taking into account is that many of the people this will affect, if anyone, are poor and elderly white conservatives who live out in rural districts without ready transportation available to towns where they can get their ID documents in order.
Absentee voting has always been available in my lifetime.
In reality though, this will likely have very little effect on either side.
Probably true.
The best thing to come out of this as far as I can see, is that it will hopefully knock a big, fat hole in the right's big, fat lie about widespread voter fraud.
The best thing I see is that I’ll be more sure of fair elections regardless of the outcome.
You idiots and losers will have to invent a new bogus excuse for losing elections.
I haven’t voted for a winner since 1988. NBD.
Eventually you'll paint yourselves into a corner.
You already did with the potato head and ho.
 
It is an established fact that voter fraud is nowhere near widespread enough to alter the results of any election.
Not even this one?
Reflects your standard response to everything.
Except for everything else in which I DON'T respond in that manner.
Bullshit.

It's because they know it's not a problem, but keeping the fake issue alive for propaganda purposes to keep idiots like you riled up is of great value to them.
Actually, it's because they know that it IS a problem (and that its existence benefits them also, as subsidiaries of Team Donkey). BUT, they gotta keep the blanket over the masses, so they do their little kabuki theatre performance bullshit to keep people distracted from realizing the "uniparty" nature of "both teams".

Team Donkey are the gaslighters, and Team Elephant are the controlled opposition.
It's already secure.

Why do you keep flogging fake issues like this one?
2000 - Hanging chads?
2016 - Russia meddling?
I don't.

I supported all the 2020 recounts which BTW, confirmed Biden won in every district they were held in.
Recounts are NOT audits, NoNads...
It turned out the way the voters voted.

Funny how none of you MAGAtards came out screaming about voter fraud last time.

Lying shit is all MAGA represents.
I've never screamed "voter fraud" (although it DOES exist). My issue is with election fraud. That fraud still existed in 2024, but it was overcome (unlike 2020).
 
I don’t care how or which way it cuts. I just want to see fair and honest elections.

A defining characteristic of far left loons. They consider themselves mind readers.
Of course poor low educated minorities have IDs.

Absentee voting has always been available in my lifetime.

Probably true.

The best thing I see is that I’ll be more sure of fair elections regardless of the outcome.

I haven’t voted for a winner since 1988. NBD.

You already did with the potato head and ho.

We've got and have always had fair and honest elections despite what trump has shit into your head.
 
We've got and have always had fair and honest elections despite what trump has shit into your head.
I remember when Mail in ballots first appeared for municipal elections thinking ,”this would be a tragedy for national elections “.
Turns out it wasn’t even fair for the munis.
There was one muni election where no one in my precinct received their ballot and had to stand in a line that wrapped around a block and a half because there were only two polling stations in the entire city.
The precinct is heavily republican historically.
I was one who stood in line for about a half hour during my lunch break and gave up after the line hadn’t moved in inch.
:truestory:

There was another election where a van full of empty ballots pulled up to the storage room at 2:00 am where the marked ballots were stored.
Gee , what could go wrong with that?
An observer from the Republican mayoral candidate who was stationed there threatened to call the police to keep the guy with the unmarked ballots from entering the building.
 
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Not even this one?
There are automatic recount triggers that kick in after the count difference drops below a certain number.

As long as there is close observation of recounts by both sides, there is no reason to cry fraud.
Except for everything else in which I DON'T respond in that manner.

Actually, it's because they know that it IS a problem (and that its existence benefits them also, as subsidiaries of Team Donkey). BUT, they gotta keep the blanket over the masses, so they do their little kabuki theatre performance bullshit to keep people distracted from realizing the "uniparty" nature of "both teams".
Conspiracy lunatic bullshit.
Team Donkey are the gaslighters, and Team Elephant are the controlled opposition.
Says the gaslighter.
2000 - Hanging chads?
2016 - Russia meddling?
The 2,000 election swung to Bush over a poorly designed ballot in Palm Beach County. The Republicans stymied a fair and conclusive recount, but there was no voter fraud claimed or committed.

Different issue.

Russia DID meddle in the 2016 election in an attempt to get their puppet elected.

It worked.

Still, not voter fraud.
Recounts are NOT audits, NoNads...
I'm not opposed to either as long as both sides have observers to keep them honest.
I've never screamed "voter fraud" (although it DOES exist).
You're screaming it right now.

If you aren't concerned with voter fraud, then why are you shitting your diaper over voter ID requirements?
My issue is with election fraud. That fraud still existed in 2024, but it was overcome (unlike 2020).
Bullshit.
 
I remember when Mail in ballots first appeared for municipal elections thinking ,”this would be a tragedy for national elections “.
Turns out it wasn’t even fair for the munis.
There was one muni election where no one in my precinct received their ballot and had to stand in a line that wrapped around a block and a half because there were only two polling stations in the entire city.
The precinct was heavily republican historically.
I was one who stood in line for about a half hour during my lunch break and gave up after the line hadn’t moved in inch.
Baloney.
 
There are automatic recount triggers that kick in after the count difference drops below a certain number.

As long as there is close observation of recounts by both sides, there is no reason to cry fraud.
Recounting fraudulent votes doesn't remove the fraudulent votes from the count, NoNads... In the case of that election, a mere SEVEN fraudulent votes would've been enough to change the outcome.
Conspiracy lunatic bullshit.
I'll take this as you raising the white flag.
Says the gaslighter.
Says the gaslighter.
The 2,000 election swung to Bush over a poorly designed ballot in Palm Beach County. The Republicans stymied a fair and conclusive recount, but there was no voter fraud claimed or committed.

Different issue.

Russia DID meddle in the 2016 election in an attempt to get their puppet elected.

It worked.

Still, not voter fraud.
... but those ARE cases of ELECTION fraud, yes? I really do wish that people would differentiate between the two and be more precise about them.
I'm not opposed to either as long as both sides have observers to keep them honest.
... unlike what happened in 2020 (where so-called "covid rules" didn't allow for this)?
You're screaming it right now.
I didn't scream anything.
If you aren't concerned with voter fraud,
I'm concerned with it, just not as much as I am with election fraud.
then why are you shitting your diaper over voter ID requirements?
I'm not. YOU are, though. To me, voter ID requirements seems like an extremely basic and common-sense way to stymie fraud attempts of any sort, whether voter or election.
Bullshit.
Yes, you're quite full of it, NoNads...
 
Question for StoneyBaloney: What percentage of your posts and responses are are just mindless juvenile nonsense vs the percentage which are just lies and bullshit....

80/20 80/20 80/20........ ;) :):):):):):):):):):):):)

Okay, thanks.

I would have figured more like 75/25.

Close enough I suppose. :thup:
 
Question for StoneyBaloney: What percentage of your posts and responses are are just mindless juvenile nonsense vs the percentage which are just lies and bullshit....



Okay, thanks.

I would have figured more like 75/25.

Close enough I suppose. :thup:
Gotta give you credit,....that wasn't bad! :ROFLMAO:
 
I to this day can't understand why LWers still cant either GET or accept the truth of why so many of us voted for Trump three times. Especially considering that one of your own kind ,Michael Moore,...described it the best back in 2016 IMO. We see the system as corrupt,.....corrupt to its FILTHY CORE from top to bottom, and yes,....the corruption is ingrained throughout BOTH sides. We were and ARE sick to death of it and fed up to the point that we simply weren't going to put up with it another day. It makes us SICK! I myself am more of a traditional conservative with a Libertarian streak. As Moore said........Donald Trump was an instrument we had available to us, he was the Human GRENADE we chose the throw right at the heart of Washington DC under the orders to either GET IT FIXED,.....or proverbially BLOW IT ALL TO HELL. KILL..........OR CURE. THAT is why we voted for Donald Trump.
 
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