Yes on Prop 19 Winning 52%-36%; Majority Supports Legalizing Marijuana

USFREEDOM911 said:
And of course, it would seem to be fair to believe that you demanded that he be treated just like the black dealers they were obviously being heavy handed with!!
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heck no, besides it was a mostly (about 95% non-black) white community

i just told him to keep it out of our home

i think that all drugs should be legal for adults...responsible adults - otherwise jail their butts

if prop 19 passes, i will likely grow some prime weed and sell some

it would be cheaper than some of the legal drugs i use for pain and other problems - eaten not smoked - ever try buddah butter?
 
DonQuixote said:
heck no, besides it was a mostly (about 95% non-black) white community

i just told him to keep it out of our home

i think that all drugs should be legal for adults...responsible adults - otherwise jail their butts

if prop 19 passes, i will likely grow some prime weed and sell some

it would be cheaper than some of the legal drugs i use for pain and other problems - eaten not smoked - ever try buddah butter?
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So you're supporting the belief that if somone, or a lot of someones, don't think a law is just, they should just ignore it.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So you're supporting the belief that if somone, or a lot of someones, don't think a law is just, they should just ignore it.
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an unenforceable or unevenly unforced law is a bad law

i am not a very law abiding person where bad laws are concerned or laws that i disagree with

however, i am a firm believer in the 11th commandment - thou shalt not get caught

not getting caught is a requirement for someone that does not color between the lines

my wife on the other hand is a very law abiding person - this makes life difficult from time to time

oat, she does not like bad laws any more than i do...
 
usafreedom never speeds jaywalks or anything on the way to his Klan meetings.
 
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Well... Considering I don't live in CA and this already lost where I do live, I would vote for it...
 
DonQuixote said:
an unenforceable or unevenly unforced law is a bad law

i am not a very law abiding person where bad laws are concerned or laws that i disagree with

however, i am a firm believer in the 11th commandment - thou shalt not get caught

not getting caught is a requirement for someone that does not color between the lines

my wife on the other hand is a very law abiding person - this makes life difficult from time to time

oat, she does not like bad laws any more than i do...
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By your reasoning: if a group of people, in a specific location, feel that the laws against murder is wrong; then as long as they don't get caught, it's OK for them to murder.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So you're supporting the belief that if somone, or a lot of someones, don't think a law is just, they should just ignore it.
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I guess it all comes down to whether or not you agree with Henry David Thoreau and Martin Luther King, Jr., or not...

When the WA state ban on cellphones was a secondary offense, I drove and talked much more frequently than I had before. Now that its a Nazi-esque primary offense, I have taken to flaunting my eating and drinking skills behind the wheel much more.
 
Threedee said:
I guess it all comes down to whether or not you agree with Henry David Thoreau and Martin Luther King, Jr., or not...

When the WA state ban on cellphones was a secondary offense, I drove and talked much more frequently than I had before. Now that its a Nazi-esque primary offense, I have taken to flaunting my eating and drinking skills behind the wheel much more.
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If you want to flaunt your distain for laws, and I don't believe that all laws are necessarilly necessary; but then those that are flaunting their distain for the law, need to stop bitching and moaning when they have to face the consequences.

By the way, your examples are strawmen; because the laws they argued against were geared towards specific people and weren't meant to be enforced on everyone.

Being denied sevices, because of your race is and was a civil violation.
Not being able to smoke weed, is not a civil violation.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
If you want to flaunt your distain for laws, and I don't believe that all laws are necessarilly necessary; but then those that are flaunting their distain for the law, need to stop bitching and moaning when they have to face the consequences.

By the way, your examples are strawmen; because the laws they argued against were geared towards specific people and weren't meant to be enforced on everyone.

Being denied sevices, because of your race is and was a civil violation.
Not being able to smoke weed, is not a civil violation.
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True for King. Completely false for Thoreau. As the creator of the concept of civil disobedience via his writings, notably Resistance to Civil Government rarely ever had a personal stake in his crusades. The whole concept of preserving civil liberties such as free speech and unlawful detainment is entirely dependent upon the willingness of third parties to caste their lots in the defense of those who are being deprived of their rights.

And as I keep trying to explain to people on this board. People need to stop fighting against extreme terror!! The reason why Americans increasingly cannot relate to the Revolution is because the British did not pose a threat to our lives in the sense of modern tyrants. Merely to our constitutional rights and established way of life.
 
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USFREEDOM911 said:
By your reasoning: if a group of people, in a specific location, feel that the laws against murder is wrong; then as long as they don't get caught, it's OK for them to murder.
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:palm:

Now you sound like Ditzy claiming that a homosexual is the same as a pedophile. You have a very odd and incoherent mix of views and if anyone's views are based on how it affects them personally, it's likely you.
 
Oh wow man, can we like concentrate on the most important issue in the history of mankind, dudes?

I mean the legalization of herb, man.

And of course we all should demand that Cheech & Chong get an Oscar.
 
wanderingbare said:
Oh wow man, can we like concentrate on the most important issue in the history of mankind, dudes?

I mean the legalization of herb, man.

And of course we all should demand that Cheech & Chong get an Oscar.
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Yeah, let's ignore the drug raids, people turning to very dangerous but legal "pain meds" by the thousands, the young people who are severely hindered by having a criminal record, and all the other VERY REAL effects of this drug war and focus on something more important to you.
 
RStringfield said:
Yeah, let's ignore the drug raids, people turning to very dangerous but legal "pain meds" by the thousands, the young people who are severely hindered by having a criminal record, and all the other VERY REAL effects of this drug war and focus on something more important to you.
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the war on drugs is a war against our own citizens
 
Threedee said:
True for King. Completely false for Thoreau. As the creator of the concept of civil disobedience via his writings, notably Resistance to Civil Government rarely ever had a personal stake in his crusades. The whole concept of preserving civil liberties such as free speech and unlawful detainment is entirely dependent upon the willingness of third parties to caste their lots in the defense of those who are being deprived of their rights.

And as I keep trying to explain to people on this board. People need to stop fighting against extreme terror!! The reason why Americans increasingly cannot relate to the Revolution is because the British did not pose a threat to our lives in the sense of modern tyrants. Merely to our constitutional rights and established way of life.
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But for some reason; those who want to flaunt the laws regarding mj, seem to propose that this is a right.
Their thinking that this is a right, seems to mean that they can now equate this to a civil rights movement and they are in error.
THIS IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS SITUATION.
 
RStringfield said:
:palm:

Now you sound like Ditzy claiming that a homosexual is the same as a pedophile. You have a very odd and incoherent mix of views and if anyone's views are based on how it affects them personally, it's likely you.
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Just using your reasoning and logic.

My remark was about ignoring a law, not about molestation.
 
RStringfield said:
Yeah, let's ignore the drug raids, people turning to very dangerous but legal "pain meds" by the thousands, the young people who are severely hindered by having a criminal record, and all the other VERY REAL effects of this drug war and focus on something more important to you.
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Gee, you make it sound like those young people are being FORCED to use mj and here I thought it was a choice.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So people who are arrested for drug possession are being executed!! :palm:
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There you go again. Reading things in that don't belong.

I'm talking about prohibition itself.

A lot of innocent people, (children) have died because of prohibition.

Where you get, "So people who are arrested for drug possession are being executed!!", is beyond me.

Where did I write that?
 
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