I admit IT WAS MURDER

volsrocks said:
This one was not

once they got his gun he was on the ground and not a threat
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your benefit of watching the risk evaluation in slow motion is noted

you know now that he only had one gun. they didn't know that at the time

murder will require an assessment of what reasonable people would do when someone screams gun and the person is actively resisting

your hindsight evaluation is cute, and I use cute in a sarcastic manner
 
zymurgy said:
your benefit of watching the risk evaluation in slow motion is noted

you know now that he only had one gun. they didn't know that at the time

murder will require an assessment of what reasonable people would do when someone screams gun and the person is actively resisting

your hindsight evaluation is cute, and I use cute in a sarcastic manner
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I know

The one that shot probably didn't know the other agent had the gun

He heard gun gun gun and shot
 
volsrocks said:
I know

The one that shot probably didn't know the other agent had the gun

He heard gun gun gun and shot
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Hearing "gun" and opening fire on anything that moves is irresponsible. No one should be shot by an officer of the law, much less a federal officer who are supposed to be better, without a clear and present danger to themselves or others. There was not.

Same for Renee. Maybe the first shot was defensible even though Ross put himself in danger. The subsequent shots were not. It was no different than if someone broke into my house and I shot them...then when they were down, I walked up and put three more rounds into. The first round is okay, but those last three rounds are considered murder...even in Texas.

The tactics of Trump's secret police indicate poor training and to be thuggish. You know, just like back in the old days. :)
 
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zymurgy said:
I won't call it murder so quickly, but the Renee Good shooting was more justifiable IMO

those agents likely lack the fortitude required for this job IMO

the question will be who yelled gun and who fired.
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Good was not justified. This one was criminal. They sent the killers off to another state to shoot some new people. With the masks, we may never know who they were without a trial.
That is not a question. I heard he told them he had a gun so he wouldn't get killed. They took it away and killed him. More than one shot him. That is sick.
 
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