The Kids are Doing Alright: The Culture War is Over

Abortion will never be outlawed.

Roe v. Wade COULD be overturned. If that happened, there would be a couple of likely outcomes:

- the GOP wouldn't win another election for a few decades
- Abortion would still stay legal in most states
 
Abortion will never be outlawed.

Roe v. Wade COULD be overturned. If that happened, there would be a couple of likely outcomes:

- the GOP wouldn't win another election for a few decades
- Abortion would still stay legal in most states

I recognize that it will be difficult to get people to stop killing their children, but it will happen sooner or later.....just look, they're already upset about killing whales.....how long to you think it will take them to afford the same rights to humans......
 
rofl....the left has been whining about being shortchanged on the "brainwashing" cycle for quite a while....now that there's been a slight shift and you've been able to do your own brainwashing.....

I am not a Democrat, nor is it very useful to describe my libertarian views as being on the left in the current political climate.

I see little reason to believe you are doing anything but projecting. I would prefer we reduced the influence of the state from these things, but I don't see any brainwashing on the left's part, except, maybe, when it comes to economics.

of course they will....in time, people will look on those who promoted the killing of unborn children in the same way they currently look on those who lynched blacks or gas chambered Jews......and rightly so....

Possibly, with some abortions. But, completely outlawing abortion is not going to happen. The time is coming when people will look back on those who described a brainless lump of cells as human as they do on the idiots who poked holes in people's heads to release the demons. But there will always be a few like you, who have holes in their head. :)
 
I recognize that it will be difficult to get people to stop killing their children, but it will happen sooner or later.....just look, they're already upset about killing whales.....how long to you think it will take them to afford the same rights to humans......

Most Americans don't recognize the characterization of fetuses as children. That's why we have different names for different stages: zygote, fetus, infant; acorn, sapling, tree, etc.

They see it as "charged" language from zealots on the right. It will never be the mainstream.
 
....don't pretend you weren't proclaiming your lifestyle was somehow superior to Beaver's.....it's not my fault your posts portray you as some sick fuck who didn't have a television and thus thought Ward Cleaver had daughters that he was abusing.....

What??? Superior to that of a myth?

No, I watched quite a bit of TV as a kid and love the old stuff. They were nice fairy tales.
 
Straw man.
No. Your logic is exactly the same as the "all sex is rape crowd".

You equate the traditional family with oppression. It's crazy nazi eugenics bullshit. America has already rejected your form of mental instability, you're just a floater left over in the bowl that won't flush from too much corn in it.

You're an eugenicist nazi zealot parading as a patriot hidden as a cancer inside the libertarian party, which will also reject you.
 
That's right. AMerican traditions are all about abuse and child molestation.

Go to Israel you fucking assshole jew. Take your theocracy with you.

Nice debate retort.
You need to seek some really intense psychological interventions and quite probably a drug regiment.
 
Most Americans don't recognize the characterization of fetuses as children. That's why we have different names for different stages: zygote, fetus, infant; acorn, sapling, tree, etc.

They see it as "charged" language from zealots on the right. It will never be the mainstream.

From one stage to the next you have always been who you are. The stage of developements are neccesarry. Neccessity takes nothing away from our humanity.

As to what American's recognize? Check out a doctor's office brochure. At every stage of developement the brochure proclaims "your baby's" developement with pictures of the zygote and fetal stages.

The words used to describe do not proclaim anything other than developemental stages. Science proclaims its humanity through all of them..
 
stringfield is a mental midget who couldn't get a point across if his life depended on it

I got my point across. You guys are done. Most people got it. How about making a counterpoint if you have a problem with something I said, pussy.

You act if I attacked you personally. I must have hit a nerve.
 
No. Your logic is exactly the same as the "all sex is rape crowd".

You equate the traditional family with oppression. It's crazy nazi eugenics bullshit. America has already rejected your form of mental instability, you're just a floater left over in the bowl that won't flush from too much corn in it.

You're an eugenicist nazi zealot parading as a patriot hidden as a cancer inside the libertarian party, which will also reject you.

Eugenics. Yeah, giving women equal rights is equivalent to eugenics. I don't know how you made that leap retard.

It was oppressive. I said nothing about rape. The truth is, many women supported the lifestyle but they did not have full legal rights either. That's a fact. It's not up for argument, retard.
 
Stringy, why do you think abortion is here to stay? It took time, but we outlawed slavery in this country once...

Philosophically, women have a right to control their body. They are full legal entities. A brainless lump of cells is not.

Politically, because women are not really a minority. They will not let you. You can beat on homosexuals and racial minorities some, because they have smaller numbers, but women are politically powerful. When joined with enlightened males and other discriminated against minorities, you'd get killed politically. It would be suicidal.
 
Philosophically, women have a right to control their body. They are full legal entities. A brainless lump of cells is not.

Politically, because women are not really a minority. They will not let you. You can beat on homosexuals and racial minorities some, because they have smaller numbers, but women are politically powerful. When joined with enlightened males and other discriminated against minorities, you'd get killed politically. It would be suicidal.

ah yes. dehumanization of babies. The self fulfilling cynicism of real politik.

you have all the signs of an internationalist fascist nihilist genocider. Please go lobotimize yourself to save society from the horror of your ideas.
 
to claim the culture "war" is over is naive in the extreme....

as long as humans continue to populate the earth with new generations, you will always have differences of culture, additionally, with the many different peoples of the earth, you will also have differences of culture, not only of different religions, ethnicities, countries, but of even local/regional differences....

take san luis obispo, ca and santa cruz, ca......
 
From one stage to the next you have always been who you are. The stage of developements are neccesarry. Neccessity takes nothing away from our humanity.

As to what American's recognize? Check out a doctor's office brochure. At every stage of developement the brochure proclaims "your baby's" developement with pictures of the zygote and fetal stages.

The words used to describe do not proclaim anything other than developemental stages. Science proclaims its humanity through all of them..

The same can be said about a fertilized chicken egg or an acorn; a developmental stage. Due to living in a world governed by "time" everything develops but it's not what it will become until it does develop, assuming it does develop.

As Onceler explained that's why we have different words for different stages. It's just as absurd to call a zygote a human being as it is to say a pile of lumber is a house.
 
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