White voters remorse as Obama Justice Department bias exposed?

NigelTufnel said:
Please. He's a GOP activist hired through illegal processes during the Bush Administration that is now upset that the Voting Rights Division is no longer an arm of RNC operations. Christ. Go read the Inspector General report about the times that this fellow thinks things were just grand in the DoJ.

Whistleblower my ass.
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Genetic fallacy. Is that the best you've got?
 
Damocles said:
It appears we have a whistle blower...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ce-department-racial-bias-black-panther-case/

In emotional and personal testimony, an ex-Justice official who quit over the handling of a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party accused his former employer of instructing attorneys
in the civil rights division to ignore cases that involve black defendants and white victims.

J. Christian Adams, testifying Tuesday before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, said that "over and over and over again," the department showed "hostility" toward those cases. He described the Black Panther case as one example of that -- he defended the legitimacy of the suit and said his "blood boiled" when he heard a Justice official claim the case wasn't solid.

"It is false," Adams said of the claim.

"We abetted wrongdoing and abandoned law-abiding citizens," he later testified.

More at link...
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Yeah, like I said, after the case was dropped they received a slap on the wrist.

Here are the actual charges filed by Justice

BTW what Mukasey asked for was a "permanent" barring of all 3 defendents from ever being allowed near a polling place again. Not the mere 2 years to just the one defendent. He also made it clear that other dameges could be assessed.


(e) Permanently enjoins Defendants, their agents and successors in office, and all persons acting in concert with them, from deploying athwart the entrance to polling locations either with weapons or in the uniform of the Defendant New Black Panther Party, or both, and from otherwise engaging in coercing, threatening, or intimidating, behavior at polling locations during elections.

(f) Plaintiff further requests that this Court:

(1) Award Plaintiff the costs and disbursements associated with the filing and maintenance of this action;

(2) Award such other equitable and further relief as the Court deems just and proper.


hummmhuhuhummm~~~
 
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Ice Dancer said:
Yeah, like I said, after the case was dropped they received a slap on the wrist.

Here are the actual charges filed by Justice

BTW what Mukasey asked for was a "permanent" barring of all 3 defendents from ever being allowed near a polling place again. Not the mere 2 years to just the one defendent. He also made it clear that other dameges could be assessed.


(e) Permanently enjoins Defendants, their agents and successors in office, and all persons acting in concert with them, from deploying athwart the entrance to polling locations either with weapons or in the uniform of the Defendant New Black Panther Party, or both, and from otherwise engaging in coercing, threatening, or intimidating, behavior at polling locations during elections.

(f) Plaintiff further requests that this Court:

(1) Award Plaintiff the costs and disbursements associated with the filing and maintenance of this action;

(2) Award such other equitable and further relief as the Court deems just and proper.


hummmhuhuhummm~~~
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hummmhuhuhummm~~~
 
Ice Dancer said:
Yeah, like I said, after the case was dropped they received a slap on the wrist.

Here are the actual charges filed by Justice

BTW what Mukasey asked for was a "permanent" barring of all 3 defendents from ever being allowed near a polling place again. Not the mere 2 years to just the one defendent. He also made it clear that other dameges could be assessed.


(e) Permanently enjoins Defendants, their agents and successors in office, and all persons acting in concert with them, from deploying athwart the entrance to polling locations either with weapons or in the uniform of the Defendant New Black Panther Party, or both, and from otherwise engaging in coercing, threatening, or intimidating, behavior at polling locations during elections.

(f) Plaintiff further requests that this Court:

(1) Award Plaintiff the costs and disbursements associated with the filing and maintenance of this action;

(2) Award such other equitable and further relief as the Court deems just and proper.


hummmhuhuhummm~~~
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No Nigel, they had already won the fucking case. What Obama's Holder did was to dismiss it with the least possible civil action taken. They had all the fucking evidence needed to prosecute and sentence all 3.


You are just an apologist for anything this White House does.
 
Ice Dancer said:
No Nigel, they had already won the fucking case. What Obama's Holder did was to dismiss it with the least possible civil action taken. They had all the fucking evidence needed to prosecute and sentence all 3.


You are just an apologist for anything this White House does.
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No, they didn't have "all the evidence needed." That's the point. They had evidence against the guy with the nightstick.

What evidence did they have against the entire New Black Panther Party where it disavowed the nightstick fellow's actions immediately following the election and there were zero reports of similar incidents notwithstanding that the New Black Panthers had 300 people serving as poll watchers nationwide?

What evidence did they have against the other guy at the polling place other than he was standing with the guy with the nightstick. There was no conspiracy charge in the complaint. You can't charge a person for what someone else does if you don't allege a conspiracy.

And you're just a critic of everything anyone related to Obama does (the DoJ and the White House are not the same thing, btw).

Lastly, "sentencing" applies to criminal cases, not to civil cases.
 
Yurt said:
as usual, you didn't debate a single point....

racist
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Pumpkin Eater is too busy patting himself on the back and extolling his own dubious virtues. He's a message board legend in his own mind...

What's a hoot is how so many here see him for what he is.

An empty Pumpkin Eater Suit.
 
THE number 1 way to identify a Klansman in public without his hood is hearing him talk about reverse racism.
 
NigelTufnel said:
You seem awfully concerned with calling people you disagree with racists. It seems like you're kind of hung up on it. Maybe you should chill out and try a little introspection.
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Maybe you Democrats should recognize your racism before calling someone else a racist for simply disagreeing with you. :321:
 
NigelTufnel said:
No, they didn't have "all the evidence needed." That's the point. They had evidence against the guy with the nightstick.

What evidence did they have against the entire New Black Panther Party where it disavowed the nightstick fellow's actions immediately following the election and there were zero reports of similar incidents notwithstanding that the New Black Panthers had 300 people serving as poll watchers nationwide?

What evidence did they have against the other guy at the polling place other than he was standing with the guy with the nightstick. There was no conspiracy charge in the complaint. You can't charge a person for what someone else does if you don't allege a conspiracy.

And you're just a critic of everything anyone related to Obama does (the DoJ and the White House are not the same thing, btw).

Lastly, "sentencing" applies to criminal cases, not to civil cases.
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The actual complaint filed NOTED ALL THE EVIDENCE (go read it dip-shit). Based on the filing and the citations of law quoted, they, Justice, WON THE FUCKING CASE AGAINST ALL 3 DEFENDENTS and the New Black Panther's as a whole!!!

And let's not parse "sentencing" VS "probation and fines". The fact of the matter is that Justice won its case what it asked with regards to punishment; this could have been granted had Holder not stepped in and had the the case dismissed with a mere slap on the fucking wrist.

GAWD but you are such a fucking addle-pated apologist!
 
Ice Dancer said:
The actual complaint filed NOTED ALL THE EVIDENCE (go read it dip-shit). Based on the filing and the citations of law quoted, they, Justice, WON THE FUCKING CASE AGAINST ALL 3 DEFENDENTS and the New Black Panther's as a whole!!!

And let's not parse "sentencing" VS "probation and fines". The fact of the matter is that Justice won its case what it asked with regards to punishment; this could have been granted had Holder not stepped in and had the the case dismissed with a mere slap on the fucking wrist.

GAWD but you are such a fucking addle-pated apologist!
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First, a complaint does not contain any evidence at all. It contains allegations. Allegations are not evidence.

Second, obtaining a default judgment, while technically a win by default because the other party doesn't show up, does not mean that the government can do whatever it wants.

Third, I'm not parsing anything. I'm just being accurate. And, for the record, "probation" doesn't exist in civil cases. That's for criminal cases.

Fourth, again with the slap on the wrist shit. You keep saying that even though as to the one defendant with the weapon, Holder's DoJ obtained the relief requested by Mukasey's guy except dictating what clothing the guy could wear.
 
NigelTufnel said:
First, a complaint does not contain any evidence at all. It contains allegations. Allegations are not evidence.

Second, obtaining a default judgment, while technically a win by default because the other party doesn't show up, does not mean that the government can do whatever it wants.

Third, I'm not parsing anything. I'm just being accurate. And, for the record, "probation" doesn't exist in civil cases. That's for criminal cases.

Fourth, again with the slap on the wrist shit. You keep saying that even though as to the one defendant with the weapon, Holder's DoJ obtained the relief requested by Mukasey's guy except dictating what clothing the guy could wear.
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That's right Nigel keep trying to make this fit your agenda!

The default judgement was a win, and what the government asked for was well within the guidlines of that win. The evidence was presented in the action and allowed the punitive requests to be granted as requested.

The request was that a "permanent barring from polling places be against all 3 defendednts and that uniformed NBPP NOt be allowed to ever be present...a fucking righteous request. What Holder did was to give a "slap on the wrist instead"!

I keep repeating what the evidence showed and what was clearly stated in the complaint...you keep making lame excuses.
 
Ice Dancer said:
That's right Nigel keep trying to make this fit your agenda!

The default judgement was a win, and what the government asked for was well within the guidlines of that win. The evidence was presented in the action and allowed the punitive requests to be granted as requested.

The request was that a "permanent barring from polling places be against all 3 defendednts and that uniformed NBPP NOt be allowed to ever be present...a fucking righteous request. What Holder did was to give a "slap on the wrist instead"!

I keep repeating what the evidence showed and what was clearly stated in the complaint...you keep making lame excuses.
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Keep on hatin'. I'm just trying to help you out as you get led around by the nosering.
 
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