At the Supreme Court, a debate over whether tariffs are taxes

[Jake Starkey]

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[Walt]

The cost of living is finally dropping

That would be deflation, and it would be a disaster. Luckily, you are lying, and it is not happening.

We want prices mostly stable, rising at a 2% rate.

 

[Into the Night]

Only SCOTUS can decide this.

I think some GOP legislators would welcome a less friendly ruling than the President would like, so voters would not suggest they are responsible for the increasing cost of living.

Duties and imposts are not increasing the cost of living. Inflation is. During the last economic depression caused by DEMOCRATS, the dollar was devalued by 37%.

 

[Into the Night]

It's fun watching Truth Detector implode.

YARP.

 

[Into the Night]

That would be deflation, and it would be a disaster.

Why is deflation a disaster, Wally?

Luckily, you are lying, and it is not happening.

The prices of some items are down. It's starting to hit housing and automobiles as well.

We want prices mostly stable, rising at a 2% rate.

Why?

Why do you think inflation is a good thing, Wally?

 

[Into the Night]

Truth Detector: Classic projection.

Jake Starkey: T D is such a gas lighter. Most maga are.

LIF. Grow up. Buzzword fallacy. MAGA is not a person.

 

[Into the Night]

Using your “examiner’s” logic explain to us how the SCOTUS defined the ACA as a tax

(given there is no applicable “examiner” op Ed piece “copy and paste” he can copy and paste to answer the question get ready for the predictable “you brain dead, uninformed moron……..” adolescent crapola he’s famous for)

ACA is a tax. SCOTUS does not need to pronounce it as a tax.

It is also collapsing.

 

[Walt]

Why is deflation a disaster, Wally?

It makes paying back borrowed money difficult, if not impossible. It rewards laziness, and not producing nor buying. It is related to dark ages.

 

[Into the Night]

If it is taxes, it is under the authority of Congress.

Tariffs are not taxes.

If it is duties, and somehow not taxes, it is under the authority of Congress.

...and they already approved, Wally.

If it is a law, and somehow not taxes or duties, it is under the authority of Congress.

...and they already approved, Wally.

If it is not a law, it is illegal, and trump cannot just grab people's money.

It is a law. It is legal, Wally.

 

[Into the Night]

Taxes and tariffs are subject to Congress.

...and they already approved, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

An idiotic argument since your source says tariffs are the same as imposts.

They are.

The US Constituiton says this -

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Congress is given the power to impose tariffs. The President is NOT given that power in the Constitution. Whether a tariff is a tax has no bearing on whether Congress was given the power to impose tariffs.

...and they already approved, Poorboy.

 

[Into the Night]

LOL. You are too stupid to understand temporary giving power in an emergency to delegating the power forever.

What 'emergency power'??

 

[Into the Night]

Thanks, proved my point, the SCOTUS argument on the ACA

ACA is a tax.

would apply to tariffs,

Tariffs are not a tax.

and by the way, if you want to go there, no Democrat voted for the “Big + Beautiful Bill,”

So? It is already known you hate reducing taxes and that you want to keep your slush funds.

in fact three Republicans even voted against it, Vance had to be called in to get it thru a dominated GOP Congress. And to show you what a debacle of is even Trump wants to change its name before the midterms

You don't get to speak for Trump. Omniscience fallacy.

The second part of your idiocy proved my prediction, 100%, never doubted it wouldn’t

Thanks, that was easy

Insult fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

So we agree that it is Congress' authority to use or delegate? Congress has specifically delegated some limited tariff powers to the president, but trump has gone well past that limited delegation. There is no such thing as a non delegation delegation, so trump is out of luck for most of the tariffs.

Trump has not exceeded anything.

 

[Into the Night]

It makes paying back borrowed money difficult, if not impossible.

Stay out of debt.

It rewards laziness,

How?

and not producing nor buying.

Prices are lower due to better production, Wally.

It is related to dark ages.

Deflation has occurred long after the Dark Ages, Wally.

 

[Into the Night]

No content ^, just the same lame adolescent personal crapola, always predictable, just like the towel hitting the canvas

Inversion fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy. That won't work, anchovies.

 

[Into the Night]

And defiantly a lack of originality, “I know you are, but what am I”

Fallacy fallacy. Hallucination.

 

[Into the Night]

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What 'illegal order', Sybil?

 

[Into the Night]

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What 'billionaires' and who was 'bought'?

 

[Into the Night]

I am glad they are watching you closely

You can't blame your problem on anybody else, Sybil.