You must refuse illegal orders!
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Triggered?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
this perfectly illustrates my point on 'vagueness' and how those saying to refuse to follow unlawful orders are being completely irresponsible.
Definitely triggered! Why is that guy crying, is that you?
The law always has its vague areas. Telling the troops the truth is never wrong.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
I never said it was wrong. I said it was completely irresponsible to say something that vague without providing legal context. It's classic despotism, telling the grunts and low ranking soldiers not do do certain things without giving a metric on what that is. It allows those that issued the idiotically vague recommendations without taking any responsibility for negative consequences experienced by that grunt/low ranking soldier. Case in point, The College Park, Ga arrest of Charles Reed. Some dumbass bitch accused Mr. Reed of home invasion/breaking and entering, then assaulting her and running away. 9 months later, with almost zero investigation, police secured an arrest warrant for Mr. Reed. He went to the police station to turn himself in when he found out about the warrant. Mr Reed has been a paraplegic in a wheelchair for 25 years............so when the arresting officer tried to explain this to his supervisor, the supervisor couldn't bother to get up from his lunch and simply said 'it's a ruse to avoid going to jail', basically ordering his subordinate to make the arrest. Guess who got fired and who kept his job with no reprimand????????
In other words, stop being a black and white dumbass and look at all situations objectively to see the stupid shit you're supporting.
Waaaaaa, so do you support a criminal investigation?
If it’s a responsible thing or not, is a legit discussion…. However it cannot be had in the shadow of TACO’s launching a criminal investigation and calling it sedition.
Trump is crazy and rightys fall in line. The fact that they said ILLEGAL orders makes the bruhaha a joke. They did not tell them to disobey legal orders. They were in compliance with the military code. Trump thinks that if he tells you to do something, you do it without question. He does think he is king. It is Trump who is wrong.
^Dumbfuck denies SCOTUS.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
NO, I do not support a criminal investigation, unless they are only trying to show complete negligence.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
SCOTUS usurped the power to interpret the Constitution from we the people. you're the moron worshipping SCOTUS, at least until its a decision you disagree with, making you the biggest idiot of all.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
How do you know, are you psychotic... err, psychic, or something? What purpose was intended in sending this message. Those producing it have no examples of Trump or the administration issuing clearly illegal orders. Questionable ones don't rise to "illegal."
Therefore, what was the intent of this message? I'd say it was intended to sow doubt in the military's top leadership.
It is YOU that is the "fucktard" here. You hate Trump so much that you can't see the issues with congressmen putting out a public message to the military that they should question orders coming from the top of their chain of command.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Good job for finding an article from Fox News.Military lawyers are saying what I'm saying.
Troops risk court-martial if they follow Democrats’ ‘illegal orders’ advice, former military lawyers warn
Troops risk court-martial if they follow Democrats’ ‘illegal orders’ advice, former military lawyers warn
While the lawmakers behind the video framed the appeal as a defense of the Constitution, military legal codes make clear that refusing orders can carry devastating penalties.www.foxnews.com
Just follow orders or obey the law? What US troops told us about refusing illegal commands
A majority of service members understand the distinction between legal and illegal orders.theconversation.com
Oh look I can find an article too on what a former military lawyer says!
So what orders are being issued by Trump that are illegal?
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
SmarterthanYou
rebel
they also never bothered to give any guidance on what is, and isn't, legal and illegal
predictable response from lying leftists trying to justify the unjustifiable when getting caught lying. Why do they need reminding? The inference from this video is that Trump is a threat and issuing illegal orders. Yet, not one of these brainless hacks in the Party of Lying Jackasses can name an illegal order.
Who is asking lawmakers to tell the troops and CIA what they already know and are trained for?
