So now we need a Ballroom?

Trump is replacing a handful of office buildings with a ballroom.

That’s it. No more, and no less.

As a general matter, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with a president making changes to the White House.

Nor, for that matter, is there anything sinister about his approving complicated construction projects that involve the temporary removal of one of its walls.

Over the years, presidents of both parties and of all leadership styles have done precisely this, and nobody has cared one whit.

Some of those presidents, such as Harry Truman and Theodore Roosevelt, used public money to pay for their modifications. Some, such as John F. Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, and Gerald Ford, raised private funds.

In all cases, they left the White House in a different state than they found it; in no cases did that decision imply incipient fascism, betray an inappropriate sense of permanent ownership, or justify tears and outrage from the president’s political critics.





 
Except that it has created jobs, and without the taxpayers footing the bill.

What are you bitching about?
A few construction jobs are not significant. Trump is tearing down the east wing, which he said he would not do. He is bulldozing part of the White House. The funding facts will come out later. We know Trump lies. Maintaining and protecting his gaudy ballroom will be a forever expense. Why do you back every damn thing that crook does?
 
Trump is tearing down the east wing, which he said he would not do.


No, he's not.


As a general matter, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with a president making changes to the White House.

Nor, for that matter, is there anything sinister about his approving complicated construction projects that involve the temporary removal of one of its walls.

Over the years, presidents of both parties and of all leadership styles have done precisely this, and nobody has cared one whit.

Some of those presidents, such as Harry Truman and Theodore Roosevelt, used public money to pay for their modifications. Some, such as John F. Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, and Gerald Ford, raised private funds.

In all cases, they left the White House in a different state than they found it; in no cases did that decision imply incipient fascism, betray an inappropriate sense of permanent ownership, or justify tears and outrage from the president’s political critics.



 
Which changes nothing at all of what I have stated in this thread.

Things we paid for:

Obama's basketball courts (built over tennis courts that were used by Bush and other Presidents (you know, historic and stuff).
Truman's reconstruction. (literally the entire building was gutted, only the exterior walls remained, the ENTIRE building).
The Rose Garden.
The Press Briefing Room (installed over a pool we paid for).
Nixon's Bowling Alley.

Thing we did not pay for:
The outdoor pool financed by Gerald Ford personally.
The tennis pavilion, completed during Trump's first term was also financed by private donations.
This Big Beautiful Ballroom.
Ah, no one knows how this idiotic ballroom is being paid for, so far all we have is “Trump says,” and he himself is claiming he will pay for the majority of it, like that is an answer


And on top of that, the plans haven’t even been submitted to the appropriate positions yet
 
Right, Trump says he has “friends” paying for it, like Trump’s “friends” do anything out of the kindness of their heart, that is not Trump’s world

And if Trump can get his “friends” to pay for his Ballroom, why cant he get them to pay for something America actually needs
First of all, you have no idea about 'Trump's world.' You've bought every libtard fantasy about Trump, his family, his company, and his friends. It was disgusting but at the same time amusing watching the left try to destroy Trump from day one. They started with the very old idea that came from Stalin's head of the secret police, 'Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime.' I could go on and inform you about the truth but I feel like I'd be wasting my time.

As for your brilliant comment 'why can't he get them to pay for something America actually needs.' Every person investing already pays something Americans really need every week, paychecks. You morons think that jobs are a right and just exist automatically like fairyland. In reality those millionaires and billionaires mostly got that way because they created wildly successful businesses that produce a product that free people voluntarily purchase among a sea of competition for those consumer dollars. They do such a good job providing that product they need lots of other people to fill all the orders. Believe it or not they have to negotiate with a free person for their time and skills coming to an agreeable fee for that exchange called a wage. Amazingly all of the players in this game are completely free people acting as they choose without coercion or any kind of force. So, your brainless comment ignores that everyone of those people provide much more for everyday Americans than you or any number of your libtard heroes every have or ever will. Libtards are terrible judges of character because of how low there own is. They are rightfully suspicious of everyone if they believe that everyone is like them. This is why you are so suspicious of your fellow man, you think everyone thinks like you do, well, let me tell you, they don't. You're a dying breed,
The White House does NOT belong to Trump. He can't do with it what he wants. It's the people's house. He's just a renter.

You never have a clue, trumptard.
Apparently you think there’s some 'Libtard TDS Manual' demanding presidents need permission to touch the White House? A quick Google might jolt that delusional brain of yours. Presidents have been sprucing up the place forever, no permission needed then, and Trump sure doesn’t now. Still, your America-loving dealmaker made sure to clear it with the White House Historical Association, because he’s classy like that. Oh, and it’s not costing us a dime, bet that stings. I know, I've heard your dumbass buddies on CNN and MsNow suggesting that Trump will somehow use this space to profit, lol. While you’re seething, drowning in your radical libtard tears, Trump’s having the time of his life making America great again and now making the White House great again. LMFAO at your misery, it’s glorious and well deserved.
 
Ah, no one knows how this idiotic ballroom is being paid for, so far all we have is “Trump says,” and he himself is claiming he will pay for the majority of it, like that is an answer. And on top of that, the plans haven’t even been submitted to the appropriate positions yet


It's happening, whether you like it or not.
 
You could have looked it up. Maybe you did, and didn't want to admit what you found.

White House tents are rented on a per-event basis, not purchased outright.

This aligns with federal procurement practices for temporary event infrastructure, managed through the General Services Administration (GSA), which centralizes contracts for common goods and services across agencies.

The Executive Office of the President (which oversees White House operations) procures via GSA schedules or competitive bids from certified vendors specializing in diplomatic events (e.g., companies like Taylor Rental or custom fabricators).

Purchasing would be impractical for one-off uses, as tents are event-specific and not reusable year-round due to storage constraints on the 18-acre grounds.
  • Why rental? It avoids capital expenditure on non-permanent assets. Historical examples include Obama-era state dinners (e.g., for India in 2009 or Africa summit in 2014), where tents were rented similarly.
  • However, public expense is still involved for:
  • Procurement and oversight: GSA contract administration and inspections (part of the ~$805 million annual White House budget for operations, including events).
  • Event logistics: Federal staffing, utilities, and security for setup.
  • Indirect costs: If damage occurs, the government may pay deductibles or fees.
The poster claimed the rentals would cost more than the ballroom, which is why I asked the questions, and now that that is settled, show us where this would cost more than
 
If there was taxpayer money going towards the renovation we would know it by now that's for sure... He's paying for it along with donations.. I imagine there will be a list somewhere and a plaque inside the ballroom....As a thank you to the contributors...
Wrong, in fact, no one knows where the money is coming from, it’s all “Trump says”


I guess if you believe what a pathological liar says is true, no taxpayer money is involved, but keep in mind this same guy said he would never play golf is elected President along with over 20,000+ documented lies
 
The poster claimed the rentals would cost more than the ballroom, which is why I asked the questions, and now that that is settled, show us where this would cost more than
Again. Paid for by private folks cost to the taxpayer $0. Renting tents, providing security (easily violated, if you remember the two crashers at the Obama's first outdoor event), etc. cost to the taxpayer $actualmoney...

I'll take 0 vs anything at all....

Regardless. renovating the WH to add a large event venue is something that has been needed for a long time. That it is getting finished now at no cost to me... I am good with that. And, yes, I would be good with it if a democrat paid for it without taking my money to pay for it too....
 
The poster claimed the rentals would cost more than the ballroom.


Is that so? Link up.

The fact is that cumulatively, the ongoing costs of reinstalling, installing tents and infrastructure and then dismantling all of it again will eventually cost the taxpayers more than the ballroom, which ain't hard to understand, because the ballroom isn't publicly funded.
 
Again. Paid for by private folks cost to the taxpayer $0. Renting tents, providing security (easily violated, if you remember the two crashers at the Obama's first outdoor event), etc. cost to the taxpayer $actualmoney...

I'll take 0 vs anything at all....

Regardless. renovating the WH to add a large event venue is something that has been needed for a long time. That it is getting finished now at no cost to me... I am good with that. And, yes, I would be good with it if a democrat paid for it without taking my money to pay for it too....
And again, no one knows how the ballroom is being paid for, the only one claiming it is all private funds is Trump

“Who’s funding Trump’s $250M ballroom renovation?”​

 
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