A beginner's guide to being an atheist, by Richard Dawkins

Cypress said:
I think Dawkins is under-equiped to be a leading atheist spokesperson for science.
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Dawkins denies science. He is not an atheist.
Cypress said:
He's just a zoologist. He doesn't have any expert training or education in the fundamental physical and biological sciences.
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Science is not a credential. Courtier's fallacy.
Cypress said:
He doesn't understand physics and cosmology, and he doesn't seem to have any formal education in cellular biology and biochemistry. Those are the core scientific disciplines that allow one to speak authoritatively about life, the universe, and everything.
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Science is not religion.
 

Cypress said:
ftfy
You only read things that you already know you're going to agree with.

That's a shitty way to learn a subject.

The reason I know more about atheism than most atheists, and more about religion than most Bible thumpers is because I keep an open mind and read both reputable atheists and legitimate Christian apologists.
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You can always tell when Li'l Cypress gets a load in his diapers. He suddenly changes your posts and demands you be angry. Pitiful.

Oh, also, sweetie, you DO NOT know more about atheism than most atheists. You just demand people tell you you do. You are not unlike Trump in that respect.
 
gmark77 said:
Oh, also, sweetie, you DO NOT know more about atheism than most atheists! :cuss:
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fyfy....I know more than you.
You insinuated anything and everything you needed to know about atheism was found in an eight word dictionary definition.

That shows a profound ignorance of the extensive literary and rhetorical production of the seminal atheist authors and influencers of the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries. I'm reading one of them right now.
 
Cypress said:

Concise summary of "Outgrowing God", Richard Dawkins©️2019​


Humans have invented thousands of gods.

The Old Testament is just myths, violence, retribution.

The New Testament is utterly unreliable because the books were written decades or centuries after Jesus' ministry.

Some scholars are skeptical Jesus ever actually existed.

The only sources confirming the historical Jesus outside the canon were Josephus and Tacitus, and Josephus was probably forged by Christians.

The game of telephone proves you can't have reliable transmission of information through multiple generations of people.

Paul barely ever mentions Jesus.

Evolution explains the intricate complexity of life.

Science basically proves there can't be a designer.

Basically all knowledge and truth comes from science.
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Much of the above is a mischaracterization of Dawkins' position.
 
Cypress said:
No, I'm reading his book and that is the basic gist of it.
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I get it, but your wording adds nuances that aren't there but that you want to be there. You do this so you can "prove him to be mistaken" when you will only be showing that your added errors are what are false.

For example, Dawkins does not claim that science proves that there is no designer. He knows that science cannot do that. You are pretending to set Dawkins up for failure.

Assigning false positions to Dawkins in the name of them being "the gist" is dishonest.
 
Cypress said:

Concise summary of "Outgrowing God", Richard Dawkins©️2019​


Humans have invented thousands of gods.

The Old Testament is just myths, violence, retribution.

The New Testament is utterly unreliable because the books were written decades or centuries after Jesus' ministry.

Some scholars are skeptical Jesus ever actually existed.

The only sources confirming the historical Jesus outside the canon were Josephus and Tacitus, and Josephus was probably forged by Christians.

The game of telephone proves you can't have reliable transmission of information through multiple generations of people.

Paul barely ever mentions Jesus.

Evolution explains the intricate complexity of life.

Science basically proves there can't be a designer.

Basically all knowledge and truth comes from science.
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No one cares about Dawkins.
 
Noking said:
What do you mean by the mischaracterization of Richard Dawkins' position??????
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Richard Dawkins clearly spells out his position, but Cypress only gives "the gist," which actually adds some nuances and removes others to render a mischaracterization of Dawkins' position.

Thank you for using the correct six question marks as opposed to the ambiguous twelve that throw the entire question into doubt.
 
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