The FCC gets to determine what is in the “public interest.”
Lying about the political leanings of the murderer is not in the public interest, Anchovies.
Jimmy Kimmel's Political Hackery : He isn't just a comedian
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Lying about the political leanings of the murderer is not in the public interest, Anchovies.
I hear you.
A....Hey Lurch, what do you think about the war in Ukraine ?
Lurch......Chicken fajita's!
. That's what its like,....he's gone deep end.
Scott
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Definitely. Tucker Carlson's interview with Putin in February 2024 was perhaps his best moment on that front. I'm not saying that Carlson is the most intellectual journalist out there, but he's certainly quite popular and just going to Russia to interview Putin brought a lot of attention to the true causes of the conflict in Ukraine as well as other matters as expressed by Russia's President, which in turn reflects a lot of Russia's views in general. I think that Cynthia Chung, who -does- have a lot of intellectual acumin, did an excellent analysis of said interview. It can be seen here:
On President Putin's Interview with Tucker Carlson...
Something somewhat historical happened just two days ago, though it is unclear how many Americans will understand its significance...
substack.com
Scott
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We have very different views regarding Carlson. I may not watch him that much, but I definitely respect his penchant for defending free speech, even if I have some doubts as to at least some of his conclusions if more free speech is censored. He's on the right, yet he's currently going -against- Trump's Republican party due to its stance. That's what I'd call dedication to the cause of free speech. An article on Tucker's stance here for anyone who hasn't read about it yet:
Tucker Carlson urges "civil disobedience" if Trump DOJ targets hate speech
"You hope Charlie Kirk's death won't be used by...bad actors to create a society that was the opposite of the one he worked to build," Carlson said.
www.newsweek.com
You think Putin told Tucker "the truth"? The Ukraine offensive is not a "war" it was a Russia invasion followed by the kidnapping and rape of Ukrainian men, women and children. You are delusional if you think Putin "told the truth" in the first place.Definitely. Tucker Carlson's interview with Putin in February 2024 was perhaps his best moment on that front. I'm not saying that Carlson is the most intellectual journalist out there, but he's certainly quite popular and just going to Russia to interview Putin brought a lot of attention to the true causes of the conflict in Ukraine as well as other matters as expressed by Russia's President, which in turn reflects a lot of Russia's views in general. I think that Cynthia Chung, who -does- have a lot of intellectual acumin, did an excellent analysis of said interview. It can be seen here:
On President Putin's Interview with Tucker Carlson...
Something somewhat historical happened just two days ago, though it is unclear how many Americans will understand its significance...
Carlson is a hate-merchant and propagandist. He argues intellectually dishonestly and is a coward.We have very different views regarding Carlson. I may not watch him that much, but I definitely respect his penchant for defending free speech, even if I have some doubts as to at least some of his conclusions if more free speech is censored. He's on the right, yet he's currently going -against- Trump's Republican party due to its stance. That's what I'd call dedication to the cause of free speech. An article on Tucker's stance here for anyone who hasn't read about it yet:
Tucker Carlson urges "civil disobedience" if Trump DOJ targets hate speech
"You hope Charlie Kirk's death won't be used by...bad actors to create a society that was the opposite of the one he worked to build," Carlson said.
But they do not get to make that decision, nor enact that decision, with the end of censoring speech, that is unconstitutional, though you MAGA said you knew what is in the Constitution
Show us where in Kimmel’s line did he “lie:”
“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it, In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving.”
Go ahead, point out the lie
Scott
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Yes, I am an anti-vaxxer in the true sense of the term- I think that all vaccines provide no benefits and only do harm. As to your "heroin attacks" statement, I imagine you meant to say "heroin addicts" and that it was a reference to RFK Jr's former addiction issues. As I imagine you know, RFK Jr.'s father was assassinated shortly after his uncle JFK was assassinated. From what I've read, it looks like it was the same cabal that did it. Regardless, having one's uncle and father assassinated in quick succession is bound to cause trauma and I suspect that RFK Jr.'s addiction issues may have had at least part of their genesis from that.
Since then, RFK Jr. has done many great things, including a great book revealing the corruption that had taken over a large part of government in relation to the pharmaceutical industry. It can be seen here if you're interested:
Amazon.com: The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense) eBook : Kennedy Jr., Robert F.: Kindle Store
The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense) - Kindle edition by Kennedy Jr., Robert F.. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and...
www.amazon.com
I'd also like to point out that RFK Jr. has never said he is an anti vaxxer himself.
Anyway, America is in DEEP trouble with RFJ Jr. and the other moonbats he's recruited for the vax committee.
Scott
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I like some of John Oliver and Stephen Colbert too- I suspect this may be because I may be more left than you on some issues.
TOP
Retired Teacher
That's it exactly....I hear you.
A....Hey Lurch, what do you think about the war in Ukraine ?
Lurch......Chicken fajita's!
Scott
Verified User
Carr was singing a rather different tune back in 2019:
FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, Who Threatened ABC Over Jimmy Kimmel Comments, Once Railed Against Policing Speech “In The Name Of The Public Interest”
Brendan Carr wrote in 2019 that the "FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the 'public interest.'"
deadline.com
The article also notes what the sole democrat on the FCC had to say:
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Preston Padden, who formerly led government relations for The Walt Disney Co., praised Anna Gomez, the sole Democrat on the FCC, for speaking out against Carr’s threats. Gomez appeared on CNN.
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Scott
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Come on Ross, tell us how you -really- feel
. As you may know, I'm no fan of Trump and like many, I don't think Carr's threat to Disney regarding Kimmel's remarks was a good thing. That being said, I am certainly someone who thinks that some of the things Kimmel's said in the past merit condemnation.
Okay...let me assume that some of the things Kimmel has said merits condemnation.Come on Ross, tell us how you -really- feel
Fine. Condemn him.
But if the president of the United States or any member of his administration is going to exact punishment for the things he said...it is THEY who should be condemned. And jailed!
So...we are in agreement, right?
Scott
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You think Putin told Tucker "the truth"?Definitely. Tucker Carlson's interview with Putin in February 2024 was perhaps his best moment on that front. I'm not saying that Carlson is the most intellectual journalist out there, but he's certainly quite popular and just going to Russia to interview Putin brought a lot of attention to the true causes of the conflict in Ukraine as well as other matters as expressed by Russia's President, which in turn reflects a lot of Russia's views in general. I think that Cynthia Chung, who -does- have a lot of intellectual acumin, did an excellent analysis of said interview. It can be seen here:
On President Putin's Interview with Tucker Carlson...
Something somewhat historical happened just two days ago, though it is unclear how many Americans will understand its significance...
I certainly haven't seen any evidence that he told Tucker anything that he didn't himself believe.
The war in Ukraine started long before Russia's military operation began in 2022. While the exact point in time where it started can be hard to pinpoint, I think Euromaidan would be where things got into high gear. If you haven't heard of the event, Wikipedia has a page on it here:
Euromaidan - Wikipedia
That page has some distinct falsehoods, but the one that I think is most egregious is a little bit of text concerning what happened on February 20th, 2014. The article doesn't even mention that individual date, instead lumping in the dates between February 18th to 20th as if there was nothing major to distinguish them. Here's the text:
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February 2014: Revolution
Main article: Revolution of DignityThe deadliest clashes were on 18–20 February, which saw the most severe violence in Ukraine since it regained independence. Thousands of protesters advanced towards parliament, led by activists with shields and helmets, and were fired on by the Berkut and police snipers. Almost 100 were killed.
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This little snippet of text doesn't say a word on the fact that there is no solid evidence that the government was involved in the killings that day and a lot of evidence that it was actually a faction of the Ukrainian protesters themselves that were the culprits. An article on Global Research gets into a documentary that uncovers this truth. It can be seen here:
The Hidden Truth About Ukraine, Kiev Euromaidan Snipers Kill Demonstrators. Italian Documentary Bombshell Evidence - Global Research
The interviews with three snipers of Georgian nationality, conducted by the Italian journalist Gian Micalessin and aired as a breathtaking documentary on Milan-based Canale 5 (Matrix program) have not paved their way to the international mainstream media.
www.globalresearch.ca
The article was published way back in 2017 and the youtube videos it now links to says it were published 7 years ago, but to date, few people know of it. Quoting a bit of the article below:
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The interviews with three snipers of Georgian nationality, conducted by the Italian journalist Gian Micalessin and aired as a breathtaking documentary on Milan-based Canale 5 (Matrix program) last week, still have not paved its way to the international mainstream media. That is hardly surprising taking into account the bombshell evidence against the real perpetrators and organizers of the 2014 coup d’etat in Kiev, generally known as the “revolution of dignity“.
The documentary features Alexander Revazishvili, Koba Nergadze and Zalogi Kvaratskhelia, Georgian military officers who were recruited to carry out a “special mission” in Kiev by Mamuka Mamulashvili, a close aid of Mikhail Saakashvili’s former defense minister Bacho Akhalaia. They claim that on Jan 15, 2014 they landed in Kiev equipped with fake documents and were transferred to Maidan. Having received 1000 USD each one and being promised to be paid 5000 USD after the “job is done”, they were tasked to prepare sniper positions inside the buildings of Hotel Ukraine and Conservatory, dominant over the Maidan Square.
The facts they exposed afterwards, were shocking. Along with other snipers (some of them were Lithuanians) they were put under command of an American military operative Brian Christopher Boyenger (his Facebook page is here). The coordinating team also included Mamulashvili and infamous Segrey Pashinsky, who was detained by protesters on Feb 18, 2017 with a sniper rifle in the boot of his car and later headed the first post-Maidan interim president administration of Ukraine. The weapons came on stage on February 18 and were distributed to the various Georgian and Lithuanian groups. “There were three or four weapons in each bag, there were Makarov guns, AKM guns, rifles, and a lot of cartridges.” – witnesses Nergadze.
The following day, Mamulashvili and Pashinsky explained to snipers that they should shoot at the square and sow chaos. “When Mamulashvili arrived, I also asked him. Things are getting complicated, we have to start shooting – he replied that we cannot go to presidential elections. “But who to shoot?“ I asked. He replied that who and where it did not matter, you had to shoot somewhere so much to sow chaos.”
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2 things to note:
1- I was able to see the facebook page of American military operative Christopher Boyenger before it was taken down. He's mentioned elsewhere, such as the following article:
2- The date of Segrey's detainment had to be in 2014, not 2017. The link in the article is now dead, but there's another article on Sergey being caught with a sniper rifle here:
Sergey Pashinsky. Thief, raider, fraudster and people's deputy
Sergey Pashinsky On December 18, it became known that MP Sergei Pashinsky became a defendant in another criminal investigation. According to the National
ruscrime.com
It was only -after- Euromaidan ran its course, with the elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych fleeing for his life to Russia, that Russia decided to accept the results of a Crimean referendum to return its territory to the Russian federation. There's a good article on what happened there as well, by the only western journalist I know who wrote an article on the subject after visiting Crimea after this event:
Return to Russia: Crimeans Tell the Real Story of the 2014 Referendum and Their Lives Since
Eva Bartlett traveled to Crimea to see how people have fared since their country reunited with Russia and what the referendum was really like
www.mintpressnews.com
Scott
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Carlson is a hate-merchant and propagandist. He argues intellectually dishonestly and is a coward.We have very different views regarding Carlson. I may not watch him that much, but I definitely respect his penchant for defending free speech, even if I have some doubts as to at least some of his conclusions if more free speech is censored. He's on the right, yet he's currently going -against- Trump's Republican party due to its stance. That's what I'd call dedication to the cause of free speech. An article on Tucker's stance here for anyone who hasn't read about it yet:
Tucker Carlson urges "civil disobedience" if Trump DOJ targets hate speech
"You hope Charlie Kirk's death won't be used by...bad actors to create a society that was the opposite of the one he worked to build," Carlson said.
I suspect there's little to gain by trying to persuade you that he's not the caricature of a man that you believe him to be. He certainly has flaws, but I think he's also displayed some real courage in refusing to simply follow the democrat or republican narrative.
There is zero evidence that Lurch cares about the truth....about reality.
Scott
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Again, I doubt we'll be able to come to change your caricaturized view of RFK Jr or people he's recruited to work with him, such as Robert Malone. But if you're ever interested in looking at an alternative point of view, I think even the description of RFK Jr.'s "Real Anthony Fauci" book is informative. It can be seen here:
Amazon.com: The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense) eBook : Kennedy Jr., Robert F.: Kindle Store
The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense) - Kindle edition by Kennedy Jr., Robert F.. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and...
www.amazon.com
Scott
Verified User
On the condemnation part, sure. I think jailing Carr for simply -threatening- to go after Disney would be going too far.
Scott
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I've seen no evidence that Lurch doesn't care about these things. I think the problem is that though we may want to know the truth/reality, it's not always so easy to see. From birth, we are taught many things. Many of the things we are taught aren't actually true. It can be hard to unlearn false narratives that we have been taught are truthful ones.