Trumppers, thoughts on spending bill?

NiftyNiblick said:
Trump is without question the worst president in this nation's history,
and is presiding over the worst government in this nation's history.

It follows, then, that he and his disastrous government
were elected by the worst citizens in this nation's history.

Trump suddenly dropping dead solves nothing
if 77,000,000+ of his trumpanzees don't drop dead with him.

That's where we are.
It's no joking matter.
That's why I see no solution other than partition,
and partition isn't happening anytime soon.

We're in a shitload of trouble with no apparent solutions.
A nation can't overcome a deficient citizenry.
That's our REAL problem.
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This is a nasty dark age....by definition the people are shit.

Pain will change that.
 
TOP said:
I don't know...what's ballon the debt?
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TOP said:
SweetLand of Liberty...I see that everyone is looking forward to the the 4th...well, almost everyone... This is the kickoff to our birthday year!! Get excited!!! Things are going to be great...Again...;)
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Indeed.

Since the left opposes anything UN-American, they will oppose the Fourth celebrations..."ii's too expensive..." or some mierda like that.
 
Tbird19482 said:
As long as their Billionaire buddies get a big tax cut, fuck everybody else.
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You nailed it. The GOP propaganda machine has done an excellent job over the years convincing their idiot voters that they, too, could someday be filthy rich and wouldn't want to be taxed "unfairly." Funny how none of them seem to consider that the opposite is far more likely. Someday they, too, might find themselves laid off, injured, widowed/divorced, or otherwise unable to work and needing the social safety net to survive.
 
EdwinA said:
^^^lol halfwit can't rebut anything, and also wouldn't be caught dead sponsoring any of his MS-13 heroes flooding in, either. As if it's America's fault the rest of the world is run by left wing scum. Your heroic commies and kiddie rapers rule most of the planet, yet you pieces of shit won't lift a finger to help anybody, just run around wetting yourselves over schools not being allowed to groom the kiddies in sexual mutilations and letting old faggots play around in their pants. You vermin could care less about 'The Children'; for you they're just cover for terrorists to hide behind.
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You are getting a bit frantic, Ed. If you can't control yourself better, perhaps you should stick to topics you can handle...like comic books or pop music.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Trump is without question the worst president in this nation's history,
and is presiding over the worst government in this nation's history.

It follows, then, that he and his disastrous government
were elected by the worst citizens in this nation's history.

Trump suddenly dropping dead solves nothing
if 77,000,000+ of his trumpanzees don't drop dead with him.

That's where we are.
It's no joking matter.
That's why I see no solution other than partition,
and partition isn't happening anytime soon.

We're in a shitload of trouble with no apparent solutions.
A nation can't overcome a deficient citizenry.
That's our REAL problem.
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Yup. Trump is only part of the problem. The REAL problem are the morons who continue to support him and the right wing.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Trump is without question the worst president in this nation's history,
and is presiding over the worst government in this nation's history.

It follows, then, that he and his disastrous government
were elected by the worst citizens in this nation's history.

Trump suddenly dropping dead solves nothing
if 77,000,000+ of his trumpanzees don't drop dead with him.

That's where we are.
It's no joking matter.
That's why I see no solution other than partition,
and partition isn't happening anytime soon.

We're in a shitload of trouble with no apparent solutions.
A nation can't overcome a deficient citizenry.
That's our REAL problem.
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Sounds like your life is hopeless.

Is it time for an appointment with Dr. Kavorkian for you?
 
Callinectes said:
YOUR side added it, and you left the mess of paying for it to the GOP. How is this bill "adding three and half trillion more" to the debt? And don't give me any of that "how are you going to pay for the tax cuts?" crap.
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Both sides added to it, are you forgetting Trump’s first go around, he set the record for addition to the debt for a one term President, and the shame of it is that he did it while the country wasn’t in a challenged economy

In simple terms, if you add up all the expenditures in the bill, which will result in loss of revenue, and then add on more as the extended tax cuts, which will get larger, you get a deficit balance. To cover that deficit, you borrow, which is why a major proponent of the bill is raising the debt ceiling
 
EdwinA said:
lol no. Few people had any such thing as health insurance at all.
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No use of AI...

Soon or Later On: Franklin D. Roosevelt and National Health Insurance, 1933-1945.​

Soon or Later On: Franklin D. Roosevelt and National Health Insurance, 1933-1945. - Free Online Library

Free Online Library: Soon or Later On: Franklin D. Roosevelt and National Health Insurance, 1933-1945. by "Presidential Studies Quarterly"; History Government Political science National health insurance Political aspects Socialized medicine
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1912-2020: Presidents Who Changed Health Care In America​

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1912-2020: Presidents Who Changed Health Care In America

Since 1789 Americans have sworn in an elected official as the President of the United States. And since George Washington took his oath of office, the health of Americans has been top of mind. However, what that means – and what role the federal government has played – has changed significantly.
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Health Insurance in the United States​

Health Insurance in the United States | Economic History Services

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In short, up to WW 2 there were attempts to nationalize healthcare but they failed. Few people relied on insurance to pay for the healthcare they needed. During WW 2, FDR imposed wage and price controls on all of industry. Due to a labor shortage, employers had to find alternative ways to entice workers to hire on with them. One of these incentives was free health insurance / care. Larger employers opened their own clinics and hospitals giving workers free access. Others offered health insurance that paid all costs of healthcare. When the war ended, and the wage and price controls ended too, this benefit continued and more employers started offering plans. Insurance companies stepped in to manage plans for employers. It became an expected part of employment for the employer to offer health insurance that was paid for in whole or part by the employer.

That's how our system evolved to today. Attempts to nationalize health care have continued but are largely resisted both by the public and by health care providers who recognize they would be seriously harmed if the government took over. The compromise is a national health insurance plan being offered--like the half assed Obamacare one.
 
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