Can anyone make a cogent case for how birthright citizenship is good for America?

[LurchAddams]

There is no benefit for children of illegals to become American citizens. Deport them with their parents.

There is also zero harm done. If you guys weren't bullying minorities and gays you'd have absolutely nothing to do!

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

Gosh. Who would have thought you ask for a reason and then when you get it you simply spout bullshit?

That wasn't a reason. It was in fact bullshit.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

I can tell you that America has survived for centuries with birthright citizenship being the way it is. It's only an issue for you because it "trolls the libs". My bus boy does not wish to kill me. You fuckers are fucking looney!

The question wasn't whether it was survivable. It was in what way it benefits America?

Do you people understand English?

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

By the way the most important reason to make children born in the US citizens is that thing called the Constitution.

Looking forward to your spouting your hatred of the Constitution next.

Can you read and comprehend?

Go back to the OP and read the question again. The very first sentence.

Whether it's in the constitution or not isn't the question here although that is in question.

It's in what way it benefits America and it's citizens.

 

[anonymoose]

Taking money from what you know is a ponzi scheme would appear to be a crime.

I put it in at the point of a gun. I only took back partially what is mine. Gubmint stole the rest.
So yes, our gubmint is and has been engaged in criminal activity.
Not only with their Ponzi scheme but theft.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

Does that invalidate his post?

Yes because we aren't here to debate the constitution. Another time.

The question is how is it beneficial to America?

 

[LurchAddams]

The question wasn't whether it was survivable. It was in what way it benefits America?

I'm not going to try to explain history to you.

Do you people understand English?

Yes. It's just too bad you fucktards speak only 1930's German!

 

[anonymoose]

So punish the child?

I propose a compromise. Allow the child to stay and be a citizen, and deport the parents.
Place the child up for adoption.
Or it can go home with the parents.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

That isn't. It's not rewarding the parents for their crime. The child being born is still born either way. The child doesn't need to be a citizen of the United States regardless of the citizenship of the parents. In this case, the parents being foreigners deliberately set out to have their child in the US in contravention of US immigration law with the knowing intent the child would become a US citizen and that would confer benefits and advantages to the parents.

If the child weren't to become a US citizen, the child would still be a citizen of the nation the parents were from so there's no loss there to the child. It isn't as if the child chose where to be born.

Your argument is the child having been born in the US, by no action of its own, is harmed by not being made a citizen. That's absurd. The child isn't harmed by not being made a citizen. The parents retain responsibility, and the parents gain no benefit from the child's place of birth which is THE ONLY REASON THEY KNOWINGLY CHOSE TO HAVE THE CHILD IN THE US! That is, the parents are the one benefiting from their crime.

They have no cogent argument in favor of it.

The shit they keep writing is a grim reminder of how fucked up their brains are.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

I'm not going to try to explain history to you.

Yes. It's just too bad you fucktards speak only 1930's German!

Ok lurchfag obviously you refuse to answer the actual question or don't understand it.

Has not one fucking thing to do with history.

Try being slightly less of a cunt would you?

 

[LurchAddams]

Try being slightly less of a cunt would you?

You try smelling less like one.

 

[Libhater]

Have you ever existed????

I not only exist but I'm like most common sense Americans in that I'm thriving under Trump's leadership and under his Executive orders
that are making America the greatest it's ever been.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

That wasn't a reason. It was in fact bullshit.

Thanks for showing us you didn't really want to have a discussion. You just wanted to reveal how ignorant you were.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You try smelling less like one.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Can you read and comprehend?

Go back to the OP and read the question again. The very first sentence.

Whether it's in the constitution or not isn't the question here although that is in question.

It's in what way it benefits America and it's citizens.

Hmmm... So the US Constitution is not a valid reason to do anything?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I put it in at the point of a gun. I only took back partially what is mine. Gubmint stole the rest.
So yes, our gubmint is and has been engaged in criminal activity.
Not only with their Ponzi scheme but theft.

I see. You want the benefits of living n the US but you don't want to pay anything for that privilege.

 

[Trumpet]

I not only exist but I'm like most common sense Americans in that I'm thriving under Trump's leadership and under his Executive orders
that are making America the greatest it's ever been.

What a total maroon you are.

 

[Libhater]

What a total maroon you are.

A maroon person would be a person of brown and or crimson color. I am neither a black or Indian person. I am a white Catholic
American having Irish/English roots. My hereditary roots are mostly in line with our 2nd greatest modern day president behind Trump
in Ronald Reagan who has English/Irish/Scottish roots.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Not asking to debate the constitution. Forget about that for a minute. Or the intent of the 14th.

And without mentioning DJT.

The stand alone question is: Exactly in what way is it beneficial to America and Americans to have the babies of illegal aliens automatically be citizens?

Go ahead and list the ways it's detrimental too if you're a naysayer to the concept.

Brah, that dog don't hunt in ary a way. The 14th Amendment was written for black Americans.
Nobody else, nobody else at all.
That's reality. Nobody gives a fuck what leftist shitgoobers say, this is America.

 

[anonymoose]

I see. You want the benefits of living n the US but you don't want to pay anything for that privilege.

So now you're saying I have to pay a ransom for the "privilege" of something i have no say in.
Incredible.
That's three govt. crimes we've identified in this discussion.
1. Ponzi scheme
2. Theft
3. Extortion.

Are there more?