Rand Paul Wins Primary!

Rand Paul ran on a core Conservative platform... this appeals to Libertarian conservatives, Republican conservatives, Religious conservatives, Gay conservatives, Atheist conservatives, Neo conservatives, Social conservatives, Fiscal conservatives, Moderate conservatives, and any other breathing conservative.

I think it spells real trouble for Liberals.
 
Paul takes heat for Civil Rights comments!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/20/paul-takes-heat-for-civil-rights-comments/?fbid=luHBIVx8kMk

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Well that was one of the most rapid backtracks in modern political history. Ayn Rand Paul now says he supports the CRA. But, he still seems to be employing weasel words, and its unclear if he thinks congress absolutely did the right thing in 1964 by passing it.


In other news, Ayn Rand Paul opposes the Fair Housing Act. He clearly states that discrimination should be against the law in publicly funded institutions (schools, government jobs), but that all other forms of discrimination outside taxpayer-funded institutions are fine.


In a May 30, 2002, letter to the Bowling Green Daily News, Paul's hometown newspaper, he criticized the paper for endorsing the Fair Housing Act….

Rand Paul in '02: I may not like it, but 'a free society' will allow 'hate-filled groups to exclude people based on the color of their skin'

"The Daily News ignores," wrote Paul, "as does the Fair Housing Act, the distinction between private and public property. Should it be prohibited for public, taxpayer-financed institutions such as schools to reject someone based on an individual's beliefs or attributes? Most certainly. Should it be prohibited for private entities such as a church, bed and breakfast or retirement neighborhood that doesn't want noisy children? Absolutely not."


Do I think AsshatZombie, Bravo, and Good Luck (or whatever his name is) should be able to form their own whites-only Klan chapter, as long as it's a strictly private club, not engaged in interstate commerce, housing, employment, or business transactions?

Yep. Government can't regulate private behaviour.

Do I think the Feds have the authority to ban discrimination in housing, interstate commerce, employment, and business? Yes, and surprisingly I think most sane people do.

Good luck this fall Ayn Rand Paul! :clink:


(p.s., Mr. Paul, I would also consider a rapid backtrack on your position against communistic agricultural subsidies. I suspect that might not go over well in kentucky's farming communities)
 
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I've never heard anyone shorten "Randal" to "Rand" before. I'm thinking even if it was shortened Randal the fact that it's shorted to "Rand" is a homage.
 
It's not clear to me how long the spin can't be kept going that Ayn Rand can plausibly claim that he has completely benign intentions on civil rights, they're not a priority to him, and he would never do anything to stand in the way of civil rights.......

....when as recently as 2002 he went out of his way to write an editorial oppossing the Fair Housing Act.


That said, I don't know how much this could hurt him in kentucky. I got the impression from USC that kentucy is one of those racist states that are still fighting the civil war, and a lot of them pay homage and honor to the confederacy. Maybe it won't hurt him that much. It just makes him look like a kook.

But, this is the state that elected that crazy Jim Bunting dude, or whatever his name was.
 
If Rand Paul agrees with his father on the death penalty, I may support him. You have to do a lot to gain my support if you support the death penalty and you're in a race with someone who opposes the it. I'm not even going to check on the Democrats views on this issue, because I already know what they are, but Rand Paul has also been completely silent about it.
 
I've never heard anyone shorten "Randal" to "Rand" before. I'm thinking even if it was shortened Randal the fact that it's shorted to "Rand" is a homage.
Possible, but admittedly, Randal is a stupid name while Rand is badass and more than likely the name a pirate would take.

As for his DP stance, I'm fairly certain he is inline with his father and us.
 
Do I think AsshatZombie, Bravo, and Good Luck (or whatever his name is) should be able to form their own whites-only Klan chapter, as long as it's a strictly private club, not engaged in interstate commerce, housing, employment, or business transactions?

So then like all of them, you are against minority beauty pageants and BET? Do you think neither of these orgs employ anyone or conduct business transactions? I think, you are just using weasel words.
 
I've got to say, this is hilarious! The Libbies are going to try and paint Rand Paul as a racist segregationist who opposes the Civil Rights Act of 19-frickin-64! That is just too fucking rich!

Good luck, you're going to need it with that strategy!
 
So then like all of them, you are against minority beauty pageants and BET? Do you think neither of these orgs employ anyone or conduct business transactions? I think, you are just using weasel words.

I seriously doubt the employees of the Miss Black USA pageanet, to the extent there are any, are waived from complying with anti-discrmination employments laws. I'm sure a white women can get hired to answer the phones for the president of Miss Black USA, or whatever

The contestants themselves are not employees.

This is pretty simple RS: anti-discrimination laws apply to interstate commerce: including housing and employment. That's what the Feds have the authority to regulate.


If Rand Paul is against the Fair Housing Act, that's fine. People have a right to ask him why.

He apparently thinks the federal government is extremely limited in its capacity to regulate interstate commerce. So, I actually have a few more questions for Mr. Paul.

1) Do you support anti-child labor laws?
2) Do you support the federal minimum wage?
3) Do you support worker safety regulations?
4) Do you support environmental protection laws.

And, if the libertarian view on the interstate commerce clause is so limited, why does he support these, if his answer to these questions is yes?
 
I think if anything, the condemnation from the left will make Rand Paul more popular with Kentuckians who are fed up with the way they've run the show.
 
I seriously doubt the employees of the Miss Black USA pageanet, to the extent there are any, are waived from complying with anti-discrmination employments laws. I'm sure a white women can get hired to answer the phones for the president of Miss Black USA, or whatever

The contestants themselves are not employees.

And BET?

Do you think the beauty pageants honestly consider hiring white MCs or would you guess most of them are biased to a member of the minority?

Yeah, like I said, weasel words.
 
Wonderful argument. Do you support limits on who can braid my hair too? That's stupid.

No, I don't. As I said, some licensure requirement are effing stupid, but many aren't. You see, I'm not a rigid dogmatist, unlike many libertarians, including yourself, apparently.

Civil courts and the market are not likely to provide adequate remedies for people that are seriously harmed by unqualified people performing potentially dangerous occupations.

And the ADA came up when?

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Your position was that anti-discrimination laws are not current issues. Well, they are. Rand Paul, if he were to win, is likely to vote on the ENDA.


Based on accurate generalizations of libertarians I can tell you that you are not likely to be correct in your characterization of Paul's views. He is not opposed to all government regulation of business.

I'm not saying that he is or isn't. I'm saying that his position on the CRA leads to a whole host of legitimate questions regarding his views on the role of government in regulating private enterprise. I hope he can clarify his views.

And I find it quite telling that you don't venture to opine about the subjects that I've raised or provide any evidence of Rand Paul's actual views. That's the trouble with libertarian dogma. It forces you to take positions that are unworkable and untenable, like opposing the CRA.
 
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