Never forget what this is REALLY all about.....

[Stone]

The left is going to continue to fight tooth and nail to include illegals in the next census. It is THEE HILL they will die on. They know as well as we do that If illegals are not counted in the census that it will dramatically remake the electoral college map to the detriment of the D party. By counting illegals it is a way of giving illegals a vote without actually giving them a vote because it adds UNDESERVING EC votes to those long established blue states. In the last two decades most of our in country's migration has been away from Blue states and to Red states. You take away those undeserved EC from 4-5 blue states and add them to red states who's population has grown and quite frankly...........the left is SCREWED. As little as 8 or more EC votes shifting from traditional blue states to traditional red states changes EVERYTHING. BTW.....the actual projection is far more than 8 EC votes moving from Blue to red. THIS is the real battle being fought and no doubt we will win this battle. Party leadership of the left also knows the right will win the EC battle over removing illegals from the census,....this is why they are throwing everything they have at us over the next several years. FUCKEM! Bring it on! Their time is running out,.......and they KNOW it. Don't be distracted,.......behind the scenes this is what the real battle is all about. The lefts excuse for counting illegals is that they need them counted to insure those states receive enuff federal funding to help offset the costs of the benefits they receive. Take away the benefits they receive and.........the excuse is GONE. Stay hard,......were about to alter the map FOREVER.

 

[Stone]

As an added bonus,.........take away benefits for illegals and illegal immigration drops massively. There is no down side to this.

 

[Stone]

BTW,.......how often do you hear the D controlled MSM bringing this issue up ? You don't,....and you wont. They want it hidden FOR NOW. That should tell you something.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The left is going to continue to fight tooth and nail to include illegals in the next census.

Dude, illegals have always been counted. It's Trump who wants to change it.

IMO, the solution is simple: Immigration Reform. The problem is that Congress won't pass a bill and Trump killed the last one they had.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) About Foreign-Born

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www.census.gov

Who are counted among the foreign-born population?
The foreign-born population is composed of anyone who is not a U.S. citizen at birth. This includes naturalized U.S. citizens, non-citizen U.S. nationals, lawful permanent residents (immigrants), temporary migrants (such as foreign students), humanitarian migrants (such as refugees and asylees), and unauthorized migrants. Everyone else is counted among the native-born population, which comprises anyone who is a U.S. citizen at birth, including people born in the United States, Puerto Rico, a U.S. Island Area (Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands), or abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents.

Who are the foreign born?
The U.S. Census Bureau uses the term foreign born to refer to anyone who is not a U.S. citizen at birth. This includes naturalized U.S. citizens, non-citizen U.S. nationals, lawful permanent residents (immigrants), temporary migrants (such as foreign students), humanitarian migrants (such as refugees and asylees), and unauthorized migrants.

 

[Earl]

Trump Orders End to Federal Benefits for Undocumented ...​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics




Feb 21, 2025 — President Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order aimed at eliminating federal benefits for undocumented migrants in the United States.

Trump signs executive order to stop undocumented ...​

Yahoo
https://www.yahoo.com › news › trump-signs-executive...




Feb 20, 2025 — It also mandates improvements in the verification process to prevent benefits from going to undocumented immigrants. "President Trump is ...

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Trump Orders End to Federal Benefits for Undocumented ...​

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The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics




Feb 21, 2025 — President Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order aimed at eliminating federal benefits for undocumented migrants in the United States.

Trump signs executive order to stop undocumented ...​

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Feb 20, 2025 — It also mandates improvements in the verification process to prevent benefits from going to undocumented immigrants. "President Trump is ...

Has nothing to do with the census.

It appears Trump is just jerking off the MAGAts again. From your link:

Trump signed the executive order Wednesday, according to a White House fact sheet that framed the presidential directive as an act to "ensure taxpayer resources are not used to incentivize or support illegal immigration."

It was not exactly clear what effect the order would have as undocumented migrants "are generally barred from welfare programs," the White House highlighted in its fact sheet.

 

[FastLane]

The left is going to continue to fight tooth and nail to include illegals in the next census. It is THEE HILL they will die on. They know as well as we do that If illegals are not counted in the census that it will dramatically remake the electoral college map to the detriment of the D party. By counting illegals it is a way of giving illegals a vote without actually giving them a vote because it adds UNDESERVING EC votes to those long established blue states. In the last two decades most of our in country's migration has been away from Blue states and to Red states. You take away those undeserved EC from 4-5 blue states and add them to red states who's population has grown and quite frankly...........the left is SCREWED. As little as 8 or more EC votes shifting from traditional blue states to traditional red states changes EVERYTHING. BTW.....the actual projection is far more than 8 EC votes moving from Blue to red. THIS is the real battle being fought and no doubt we will win this battle. Party leadership of the left also knows the right will win the EC battle over removing illegals from the census,....this is why they are throwing everything they have at us over the next several years. FUCKEM! Bring it on! Their time is running out,.......and they KNOW it. Don't be distracted,.......behind the scenes this is what the real battle is all about. The lefts excuse for counting illegals is that they need them counted to insure those states receive enuff federal funding to help offset the costs of the benefits they receive. Take away the benefits they receive and.........the excuse is GONE. Stay hard,......were about to alter the map FOREVER.

They want to add illegals to Blue states because it will increase HOUSE seats in blue states. Also they want their children to be citizens and have the right to vote. And if the Dems ever control the WH, the House and the Senate the Dems will give citizenship and the right to vote to illegals the EC is just a bonus.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

They want to add illegals to Blue states because it will increase HOUSE seats in blue states. Also they want their children to be citizens and have the right to vote. And if the Dems ever control the WH, the House and the Senate the Dems will give citizenship and the right to vote to illegals the EC is just a bonus.

^^^
Proof Meth Heads don't know shit about the Constitution and the fact illegals have always been counted in the Census since the 14th Amendment.

 

[Stone]

Dude, illegals have always been counted. It's Trump who wants to change it.

IMO, the solution is simple: Immigration Reform. The problem is that Congress won't pass a bill and Trump killed the last one they had.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) About Foreign-Born

Browse and explore FAQs on census.gov by topic or group. Click on Submit Request to reach our support team. We will find the answer for you soon. Thank you.

www.census.gov

Who are counted among the foreign-born population?
The foreign-born population is composed of anyone who is not a U.S. citizen at birth. This includes naturalized U.S. citizens, non-citizen U.S. nationals, lawful permanent residents (immigrants), temporary migrants (such as foreign students), humanitarian migrants (such as refugees and asylees), and unauthorized migrants. Everyone else is counted among the native-born population, which comprises anyone who is a U.S. citizen at birth, including people born in the United States, Puerto Rico, a U.S. Island Area (Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands), or abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents.

Who are the foreign born?
The U.S. Census Bureau uses the term foreign born to refer to anyone who is not a U.S. citizen at birth. This includes naturalized U.S. citizens, non-citizen U.S. nationals, lawful permanent residents (immigrants), temporary migrants (such as foreign students), humanitarian migrants (such as refugees and asylees), and unauthorized migrants.

Tough shit. Drastic times call for drastic measures. Like it or lump it because Its getting changed.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Tough shit. Drastic times call for drastic measures. Like it or lump it because Its getting changed.

You can't change the Constitution by EO no matter how much the Pedophile-in-Chief desires it to be so.

 

[Stone]

They want to add illegals to Blue states because it will increase HOUSE seats in blue states. Also they want their children to be citizens and have the right to vote. And if the Dems ever control the WH, the House and the Senate the Dems will give citizenship and the right to vote to illegals the EC is just a bonus.

That too,...yes. By not counting them you stop that from happening AND swing the EC votes.

 

[Lionfish]

It appears Mr. Tiny Penis doesn't understand how representation in Congress is decided.

Who is Included in the Apportionment Population Count?​

The apportionment calculation is based on the total resident population (citizen and noncitizen) of the 50 states. The apportionment population also includes U.S. Armed Forces personnel and federal civilian employees stationed outside the United States (and their dependents living with them) who can be allocated, based on administrative records, back to a home state.

BTW

 

[Stone]

You can't change the Constitution by EO no matter how much the Pedophile-in-Chief desires it to be so.

We wont have to use EO. This will get done,....

 

[Lionfish]

It appears Mr. Tiny Penis doesn't understand how representation in Congress is decided.

Who is Included in the Apportionment Population Count?​

The apportionment calculation is based on the total resident population (citizen and noncitizen) of the 50 states. The apportionment population also includes U.S. Armed Forces personnel and federal civilian employees stationed outside the United States (and their dependents living with them) who can be allocated, based on administrative records, back to a home state.

BTW

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[FastLane]

That too,...yes. By not counting them you stop that from happening AND swing the EC votes.

Plus by flooding the blue states and giving the right to vote in blue state election they help keep the state legislatures blue and the state legislature draw the Congressional district boundaries.

 

[Stone]

Plus by flooding the blue states and giving the right to vote in blue state election they help keep the state legislatures blue and the state legislature draw the Congressional district boundaries.

Exactly.

 

[Jarod]

The left is going to continue to fight tooth and nail to include illegals in the next census. It is THEE HILL they will die on. They know as well as we do that If illegals are not counted in the census that it will dramatically remake the electoral college map to the detriment of the D party. By counting illegals it is a way of giving illegals a vote without actually giving them a vote because it adds UNDESERVING EC votes to those long established blue states. In the last two decades most of our in country's migration has been away from Blue states and to Red states. You take away those undeserved EC from 4-5 blue states and add them to red states who's population has grown and quite frankly...........the left is SCREWED. As little as 8 or more EC votes shifting from traditional blue states to traditional red states changes EVERYTHING. BTW.....the actual projection is far more than 8 EC votes moving from Blue to red. THIS is the real battle being fought and no doubt we will win this battle. Party leadership of the left also knows the right will win the EC battle over removing illegals from the census,....this is why they are throwing everything they have at us over the next several years. FUCKEM! Bring it on! Their time is running out,.......and they KNOW it. Don't be distracted,.......behind the scenes this is what the real battle is all about. The lefts excuse for counting illegals is that they need them counted to insure those states receive enuff federal funding to help offset the costs of the benefits they receive. Take away the benefits they receive and.........the excuse is GONE. Stay hard,......were about to alter the map FOREVER.

This is the most uninformed post you have ever written. We already count illegals.

Wow.

 

[Jarod]

They want to add illegals to Blue states because it will increase HOUSE seats in blue states. Also they want their children to be citizens and have the right to vote. And if the Dems ever control the WH, the House and the Senate the Dems will give citizenship and the right to vote to illegals the EC is just a bonus.

You fell for it, again.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

That too,...yes. By not counting them you stop that from happening AND swing the EC votes.

I'm fine with Congress changing the Constitution just like I support Immigration Reform. The problem is that Trump can't change the Constitution with an EO. Lying about it only makes him and his supporters liars.

 

[Stone]

This is the most uninformed post you have ever written. We already count illegals.

Wow.

I know that,...obviously,..,dummy. I am telling you what is to come....