Operation Spiderweb is fascinating

goat said:
The Soviet Union defeated the nazis in WWII.
US banks and corporations funded and backed the nazis.

Our founders are rolling in their graves at US diplomacy being replace with bombing the world into submission.
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So you are claiming that the Founding Fathers would have supported the Soviets?

Worth noting that the USSR traded with Nazi Germany far more than US banks and corporations.
 
Walt said:
So you are claiming that the Founding Fathers would have supported the Soviets?

Worth noting that the USSR traded with Nazi Germany far more than US banks and corporations.
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Where did I say that? You pull this crap every time you realize you lost an argument.
 
goat said:
Timothy McVeigh was 23 years old when he was recruited by the CIA. Again, you know nothing about who we are as a nation.
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McVeigh was not a CIA recruit.

But McVeigh makes one point. He was noticed. Westerners get noticed when they are imprisoned. Can you imagine if tens of thousands of Americans were in Russian prisons, we would know.
 
Walt said:
McVeigh was not a CIA recruit.
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Correct. Timothy McVeigh was a CIA officer working with the FBI to infiltrate white supremacist militias. That is a proven fact. You really need to do a little research before posting your merchant of doubt talking points.
 
Walt said:
Try to keep up.
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Try to take your own advice.
Walt said:
Ukraine is fighting a war to defend themselves from Putin's invasion.
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You still got this all wrong.

1) It is not really Ukraine who is fighting this war (they are just the figurehead). It is really the USA who is fighting a proxy war against Russia. Doesn't it bother you that certain elements of our government are actively escalating this war WITHOUT TRUMP'S KNOWLEDGE OR APPROVAL and doing so while Trump is actively negotiating an end to it?

2) Once again, how is Ukraine "defending themselves" if they are accepting all sorts of outside money and resources?

3) To call it "Putin's invasion" is to purposefully ignore the deep state's "poking the bear" (re: NATO expansion, Ukraine becoming NATO member) that they did in the months leading up to February. Without that, there would be no invasion and no war.
 
gfm7175 said:
It is not really Ukraine who is fighting this war
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Ukrainians are doing almost all the fighting, so yes it is them.

gfm7175 said:
It is really the USA who is fighting a proxy war against Russia.
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If it were American troops, those American troops would have American families that would complain about the deaths.

gfm7175 said:
Doesn't it bother you that certain elements of our government are actively escalating this war WITHOUT TRUMP'S KNOWLEDGE OR APPROVAL
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It doesn't bother you that the Ukrainians and many other countries feel they can trust no one in America with their plans, because of trump?

gfm7175 said:
doing so while Trump is actively negotiating an end to it?
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trump is negotiating an end to the war? I thought he taking naps in DC.

gfm7175 said:
Once again, how is Ukraine "defending themselves" if they are accepting all sorts of outside money and resources?
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They are receiving weapons to help defend themselves... Do you know what defending themselves means?

gfm7175 said:
To call it "Putin's invasion" is to purposefully ignore the deep state's "poking the bear" (re: NATO expansion, Ukraine becoming NATO member) that they did in the months leading up to February. Without that, there would be no invasion and no war.
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Ukraine did not become a NATO member, so we can ignore that all we want. Georgia did not become a NATO member either. We can go down a whole list of countries Putin invaded who were not NATO members.

What we cannot find is one country that is a NATO member that Putin has been brave enough to take on head to head.
 
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