real racism

Take away lesson from thread: Another hilarious example of conservative self-deception, hilariously phony whines of “reverse racism”, and teabagging buffoonery.

It all totally makes sense now……

The Problem of Racism in America

-Reality: Only people of color experience the effects of racism on any substantive and consistent level.

-Tea Bag Party retort: ”Black people are EQUALLY to blame for racism!”

P.S. Just look at all the horrific examples of Black racism and oppression of whites we conservatives post on a weekly basis!

The Iraq War

-Reality: A fiasco promoted, sold, and cheerled overwhelmingly by the GOP and 50 million of their Bush-worshipping sycophants.

-Tea Bag Party retort: ”Democrats were equally to blame for Iraq!”

Widespread Corporate Deregulation

-Reality: A theory of magical, unleashed free markets invented, promoted and sold by its inventors: The Conservative school of delusional economics.

-Tea Bag Party retort: ”Democrats are equally to blame, or MORE, for deregulation! I’ve always been an enthusiastic regulator!

George Bush

-Reality: One of the worst presidents in history, who was nonetheless enthusiastically defended, worshipped, or provided cover for seven and a half years by 50 million two-time Bush voters.

-Tea Bag Party retort: ”I never supported Bush! He was a leftwing liberal as far as I’m concerned!

P.S. Stop making fun of Bush!!!”
 
This is the one:

2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

It's racsim.

Not if you look at the definitions of "prejudice" and "discrimination".

Try as you might, you cannot prove your assertion based on the clear definitions of ALL the terms used.

Racism

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Prejudice

1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics

Discrimination

1 a : the act of discriminating b : the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently
2 : the quality or power of finely distinguishing
3 a : the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination>
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Since the trip wasn't just to frollick in the park, but an vocational demonstration, the charge itself is a stretch.

So when white children are merely denied education experiences it's not racism?

Well, you have to explain the "educational experience" that was denied the "white" children....to do this you have to remember what EXACTLY was the field trip about.
 
You're gay and should come out of the closet, but please don't post a picture of your fat bod here in full view.

Just put him on ignore...he'll get tired of talking to himself...there is nothing to gain by even acknowledging hes alive.....
 

Theree's nothing reverse about this racism. It's still just racism.

Sorry, but your saying it's "racism" doesn't make it so. To date, you cannot logically prove your accusation....all you've done so far is try to take things out of context and join them with your opinion....which fails when faced with the actual definitions of what you're accusing folk of.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Please explain how showing a bunch of black kids a successful black adult functioning the real world is "racism"? What were the "bad intentions"? The "major" legit claim to "racism" being perpetraited on non-black students is that they didn't get to go on a field trip that day. If the intent was to have the black kids get a day off from school to solely goof off, then you might have a stronger case....but that is NOT what happened.

I still stand by my original statement.

Leaving the white kids out makes it racism.

The bad intentions were intending to leave the white kids out.

You're repeating yourself, but NOT answering the questions. Go back and read the definitions of "racism", "prejudice" and "discrimination", then re-read my previous post.
 
You're repeating yourself, but NOT answering the questions. Go back and read the definitions of "racism", "prejudice" and "discrimination", then re-read my previous post.

A school club (African-American Lunch Bunch)


By: David Jesse
AnnArbor.com Staff


Ann Arbor school district ends controversial program only open to black students

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-ar...oversial-program-only-open-to-black-students/

RACIST and DISCRIMINATORY

You bore me....now....S T F U
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
See my above explanation as to "relevence" of reason (in this case, intent). As for "Classic Racist Behavior".....I assume you're working off your own personal definition of such as opposed to historical racist actions in America. Perhaps you should explain in detail how the black faculty member was "racist" to the non-black students in "classic" behavior.

Racism is racism, the intent of the racism is immaterial and irrelevant....
any special treatment of one race at the exclusion of other races is racism....even if the 'intent' is innocent....

You just a repeated your opinion and a generalized platitude that you feel can be applied to any situation to justify your opinion. Coupled with your steadfast denial and indifference to logical dissection of your argument, and essentially you demonstrate an indifference to any fact or logic that contradicts your viewpoint.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=648403&postcount=95

FYI....."classic" racism in educaton was a denial of education beyond a certain level (high school, college), in some cases limited access to proper educational tools and resources under the guise of "seperate but equal". Black kids being shown a black professor giving them an address on the trials and tribulations and successes of that can be done by black folk is not perpetuating "racism" against the white students, as they do NOT have to worry about overt or covert bigoted obstacles in their job futures on the whole....BUT...it was insensitive NOT to have the prof come to the school and make his address an "open" forum with optional attendance.
 
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You just a repeated your opinion and a generalized platitude that you feel can be applied to any situation to justify your opinion. Coupled with your steadfast denial and indifference to logical dissection of your argument, and essentially you demonstrate an indifference to any fact or logic that contradicts your viewpoint.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=648403&postcount=95

Ann Arbor school district ends controversial program only open to black students

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-arb...lack-students/:good4u:
 
Ann Arbor school district ends controversial program only open to black students

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-arb...lack-students/:good4u:

And how does this excuse your personal inability to logically and factually respond to the points I've made earlier?

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=649575&postcount=151

Judging by the headline, Ann Arbor's response is a-typical of most small level educational bureaucracy - controversy results in removal of the point of controversy regardless who was right or wrong.

Your link doesn't work....the Ann Arbor site has an error.
 
And how does this excuse your personal inability to logically and factually respond to the points I've made earlier?

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=649575&postcount=151

Judging by the headline, Ann Arbor's response is a-typical of most small level educational bureaucracy - controversy results in removal of the point of controversy regardless who was right or wrong.

Your link doesn't work....the Ann Arbor site has an error.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-ar...oversial-program-only-open-to-black-students/

I know what you would ranting about if this was a "whites only" club...and "whites only" were invited to take some field trip.....so really, don't be a fuckin' hypocrite....I'm not buyin' it...
It was a racist club, obvious to everyone but the left wing nuts and Democrats that can't stand being wrong so often about so much....

I really don't wanna play with you....I'm just not into Koolade .....I'm right and you're wrong...live with it.
 
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And how does this excuse your personal inability to logically and factually respond to the points I've made earlier?

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sho...&postcount=151

Judging by the headline, Ann Arbor's response is a-typical of most small level educational bureaucracy - controversy results in removal of the point of controversy regardless who was right or wrong.

Your link doesn't work....the Ann Arbor site has an error.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-ar...oversial-program-only-open-to-black-students/

I know what you would ranting about if this was a "whites only" club...and "whites only" were invited to take some field trip.....so really, don't be a fuckin' hypocrite....I'm not buyin' it...
It was a racist club, obvious to everyone but the left wing nuts and Democrats that can't stand being wrong so often about so much....

I really don't wanna play with you....I'm just not into Koolade .....I'm right and you're wrong...live with it.

And there you have it folks....properly challenged, Bravo displays the intellectual level of a humiliated grade schooler....ranting and raving rather than just admitting he cannot logically debate an issue.

I had to go through AOL to get to the site and read the article....seems this "lunch brunch" was cooked up to try and change the low test scores of black students...there seemed to have been no objection of note until this field trip. Since the district is investigating whether a law against preferential treatment was broken, the "lunch bunch" has been disbanded.

See folks, intellectually stumped yahoos like Bravo keep mistaking their supposition and conjecture as fact. Fortunately, those with a GED or better who actually READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY know better.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-ar...oversial-program-only-open-to-black-students/

Like I said earlier, Bravo couldn't honestly, logically respond to my challenges, and subsequently gave us his screen spittle rant. Pity poor Bravo.
 
And there you have it folks....properly challenged, Bravo displays the intellectual level of a humiliated grade schooler....ranting and raving rather than just admitting he cannot logically debate an issue.

I had to go through AOL to get to the site and read the article....seems this "lunch brunch" was cooked up to try and change the low test scores of black students...there seemed to have been no objection of note until this field trip. Since the district is investigating whether a law against preferential treatment was broken, the "lunch bunch" has been disbanded.

See folks, intellectually stumped yahoos like Bravo keep mistaking their supposition and conjecture as fact. Fortunately, those with a GED or better who actually READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY know better.

http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-ar...oversial-program-only-open-to-black-students/

Like I said earlier, Bravo couldn't honestly, logically respond to my challenges, and subsequently gave us his screen spittle rant. Pity poor Bravo.

No rants, no raves, no tantrums....I'm right and you're wrong...

It was a black only club, racist by definition....there is no debate, its an undeniable fact.....
The school discontinued it....

Its obvious to all that a "white only" club would be as racist and its just as obvious for a blacks only club.....

You'll get over it....relax....I'm gonna let you win one in the near future just because I feel like I'm taking unfair advantage of your narrow-mindedness...
your inability to deal with your hypocrisy is sad ....
 
How many times do you insist on repeating the same lie? It's full name is the African-American Lunch Bunch.

Well, if you weren't lying about the real name, you'd have a point. But since the real name is African American Lunch Bunch, your counter argument is bullshit.

How many times are you going to ignore this paragraph: "It was just one of many efforts the district has made to motivate the group, called the Lunch Bunch, a peer-support group to help students struggling academically. The club was created to help improve African-American students' MEAP performance but is open to any student. But currently, only African-American students are members."

Show me something from the school itself that the group is called "African-American Lunch Bunch".

It depends. Would the Spanish club be limited to hispanics, then yes it would be wrong. Unfortunately for your argument, Spanish clubs have a long history of being associated with the study of the Spanish language. So much for THAT analogy.

"The club was created to help improve African-American students' MEAP performance but is open to any student.[/B] But currently, only African-American students are members."

Show me something that proves other races were forbidden to join.

You are SO fucked in the head. There is a HUGE difference between designing an academic program according to academic abilities, and designing an academic program specifically to address race.

You're really reaching here. NO WHITE KIDS were deliberately left out of the club. You are absolutely clueless about the way school clubs work. They don't just spring into existence. A new club has to find a teacher sponsor willing to devote extra time to it. Then the club is proposed to the school board and they make the final decision. The board decides the amount of extra pay the sponsoring teacher will receive, and whether there are any violations of their contract. The school board's solicitor sits in on the meetings. If there were anything illegal going on, the club would not exist.
I've been through the drill at my school district. Have you?

Or are you going to claim that the ONLY student who fall in the "academically at risk" category are all black?

I've been perfectly clear in my claims, and don't need you to put words in my mouth. The program was open to ANY STUDENT. What part of that is so hard for you to understand? Again, anybody with sub-par academics could join. Since it's illegal to keep anybody out, why don't YOU speculate on the reason others didn't take part?

Again, a completely different issue. We're talking about RACISM. Do you even fucking KNOW what RACISM is, or are you so totally fucked in the head you assume ANY and ALL prejudice is RACISM? It's amazing the level of absolute assinine stupidity you are willing to devolve to in order to support your shit.

I know very well what racism is, and I see it clearly in the faux-outrage of these Ann Arbor parents who are upset that their kids didn't get to take a field trip. What's asinine is your conflating the club with the trip and I'm not so fucked that I can't see it. I have kids in school and I'm attuned to the way clubs work, and your arguments are totally off-base. Get educated.

And what of the WHITE kids who are academically at risk who were intentionally left out?

Show me something to prove white kids were left out of the club, intentionally or otherwise, and try to understand that the field trip isn't the same thing as the club.

What about any HISPANIC students at risk? They don't deserve field trips? And, of course, NATIVE AMERICAN student at risk can just go back to the reservation and make baskets for you fucking liberal "Oh, isn't their culture QUAINT?!?" tourist assholes.

Why don't you research the school clubs yourself before making such a stupid comment. All clubs have their own particular activities for members only. If Hispanic and Native American students were academically at risk, they should have joined the Lunch Bunch. There was absolutely NOTHING in the by-laws forbidding them to join. Furthermore, the last I checked, Native Americans do get special rights that the rest of us don't. Where's your outrage over this?

Bottom line, twit. Their program is RACISM. It focused on RACE. They took BLACK students to see a successful BLACK scientist in order to "motivate" them by showing "See, BLACKS CAN be successful too!" If you don't find that very attitude racist, then you haven't a foggy fucking clue about reality.

But then, you already proved that with your numerous analogies that have nothing to do with racism.

The bottom line for me is that you have no real argument and your devolution into foul-mouthed name-calling is the proof. Maybe you should save your spiel for the Ann Arbor parents. You fit like a glove with them.
 
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