Oral history is generally reliable within a three-generation callback time period

martin said:
He's right that if a substantial number of the reports were accurate we would have evidentiary proof by now, but the probable falsity of the vast majority of reports doesn't mean or logically suggest that all are false.
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its all over the internet, fucking dumbass.

he only cares about eyewitnesses to keep religion cray cray.

he's an idiot and so are you.
 
martin said:
We'll trade. You're obviously not an idiot, but poorly educated and of small intelligence.
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So reports of Russia’s Orthodox Church Czar of Russia renaming citizens coffee, tea, sugar or just exterminating them as Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist Bicentennial renaming George Washington University Hospital Washington, D.C. born USA citizens Islam is reliable except for Christian Nation SCOTUS Rehnquist Fourth Reich July….
 
Bai Lan said:
there are.

there are new ones on the internet everyday.

you fucktoids ignore it, or denigrate the witness.

so don't tell me about your respect for eyewitnesses, garbage pail kid.
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Feel free to post legitimate video evidence that proves clearly and unambiguously that our planet is being visited by intergalactic spaceships piloted by aliens.
 
martin said:
We'll trade. You're obviously not an idiot, but poorly educated and of small intelligence.
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Cypress said:
Feel free to post legitimate video evidence that proves clearly and unambiguously that our planet is being visited by intergalactic spaceships piloted by aliens.
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i seriously doubt that those bumpkins saw someone rise from the dead.

fools.

i mean, really.

isnt eyewitness testimony enough?
 
Bai Lan said:
i seriously doubt that those bumpkins saw someone rise from the dead.

fools.

i mean, really.

isnt eyewitness testimony enough?
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Okay, so you can provide no definitive video evidence of intergalactic spaceships piloted by aliens, even though you claim it exists.

In my opinion, the eyewitnesses of Jesus genuinely believed they saw him after the crucifixion. A coordinated conspiracy to lie about it doesn't make sense, and I've never been able to establish a motive for lying - they would not have gained money, power, or sex from the lie.

The only question on the table is what is the best explanation for their belief they had seen Jesus after the crucifixion.
 
Cypress said:
Okay, so you can provide no definitive video evidence of intergalactic spaceships piloted by aliens, even though you claim it exists.

In my opinion, the eyewitnesses of Jesus genuinely believed they saw him after the crucifixion. A coordinated conspiracy to lie about it doesn't make sense, and I've never been able to establish a motive for lying - they would not have gained money, power, or sex from the lie.

The only question on the table is what is the best explanation for their belief they had seen Jesus after the crucifixion.
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do you have video evidence of the resurrection?
 
Bai Lan said:
do you have video evidence of the resurrection?
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No, but I believe the testimony that people thought they saw Jesus after the resurrection, just like I believe reputable people who believe they saw something strange in the atmosphere, or in the Loch Ness.

It all comes down to the most reasonable explanation for it, not whether I believe them.
 
Cypress said:
No, but I believe the testimony that people thought they saw Jesus after the resurrection, just like I believe reputable people who believe they saw something strange in the atmosphere, or in the Loch Ness.

It all comes down to the most reasonable explanation for it, not whether I believe them.
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ahhh.

the reputable people.

it comes down to your idiotic shifting standards.
 
Bai Lan said:
that's right.

everything's a weather balloon and everybody's stupid.

so you really are just a propagandist shillhole who shifts your standard depending on your agenda.
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If some alien race is smart enough to arrive here they would certainly be smart enough to eradicate the pestilence of the human race
 
Bai Lan said:
ahhh.

the reputable people.

it comes down to your idiotic shifting standards.
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I'm discounting the people who intentionally perpetrated hoaxes, which we demonstrably know has happened with UFOs, Loch Ness monster, and Big Foot.

But since we have testimony from thousands of witnesses, it is reasonable to believe there are honest people who genuinely believe they saw something weird in the atmosphere or in Loch Ness.
 
Cypress said:
I'm discounting the people who intentionally perpetrated hoaxes, which we demonstrably know has happened with UFOs, Loch Ness monster, and Big Foot.

But since we have testimony from thousands of witnesses, it is reasonable to believe there are honest people who believe they saw something weird in the atmosphere or in Loch Ness.
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oh ok.

you know.

you decide what's reasonable.

and you believe hearsay when it comes to keeping religion a debate about miracles, which is not the point.

you try so hard just to end up stupid.
 
Cypress said:
There are five billion smart phones on the planet, at this point there should be crystal clear and unambiguous video records of alien spaceships.

I don't think most people are lying about seeing weird things in the atmosphere. But the testimony is not good enough to leap to the conclusion there are intergalactic spaceships flying around the atmosphere.
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And youd say.it was photoshopped
 
Bai Lan said:
but that doesn't prove the phenomenon witnessed does it?
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Yes, the phenomenon was witnessed. It's the interpretation of what they saw that has to be investigated.

Eyewitnesses are always cross examined in court to ascertain the quality and reliability of their interpretation of their observations
 
Cypress said:
Yes, the phenomenon was witnessed. It's the interpretation of what they saw that has to be investigated.

Eyewitnesses are always cross examined in court to ascertain the quality and reliability of their interpretation of their observations
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but you're on hearsay with that old shit, but are willing to investigate that.

but on other new topics you have live eyewitnesses who you discount completely.

your agenda is to keep religion divisive and based on miraculous beliefs instead of morality.

:truestory:

you prove me right over and over again but are too dumb to see it.
 
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