No, Canada! Why we don’t want the Great Woke North as our 51st State

Into the Night said:
You can't blame your fallacies on me or anybody else, anchovies. Inversion fallacy.
Now, to reiterate, since you completely ignored the post:

There are no votes in a dictatorship, anchovies. The government is not the people of Canada.
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And it still makes zero sense
 
Well, the reality would be more like:

If Canada joined the US, it would do so as 11 states. The Inuit Territory in the Arctic would have to be resolved as either a state or as a new reservation as it has sort of that status in Canada now.

As for the 11 or 12 states, approximately a total of 45 Representatives would fill seats, but unless Congress changes the 1929 law on how many seats in the House--good luck with that--what would happen is an approximately 10% reduction in the number of seats apportioned to states with more than one Representative would occur. That means major states like California and New York would lose about 6 and 3 respectively, maybe more.

Given that most of Canada is not all that liberal / Leftist, most of the new states would end up in the Republican corner. Worse, since the US has the two-party system, the parliamentary system Canada uses end and again, the Left loses in that outcome. The province of Quebec would no doubt throw a major fit over French no longer being allowed to dominate across what was Canada.

Now, if the Inuit territory became a state too, it might cause problems with Native Americans as well as with the Inuit who find their status under Canadian laws no longer applies. If instead, it became several reservations (there are different tribes involved) it would have very limited political clout compared to what it had under Canadian law.
 
When Trump brings Canada into the United States, only a hyperpartisan scheming right-winger would think it fair that 40 million people only get two senators.

You would have to bring in the provinces as individual states, meaning a net gain for Democrats or the center-left of between 8 to 17 senators.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, the reality would be more like:
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Always fun to speculate.
T. A. Gardner said:
If Canada joined the US, it would do so as 11 states.
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Unknown. Nothing has been decided on organization of how many States it would be, should it ever come to pass.
T. A. Gardner said:
The Inuit Territory in the Arctic would have to be resolved as either a state or as a new reservation as it has sort of that status in Canada now.
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Why? There really is no Inuit Territory. They are all over Alaska and Canada.
T. A. Gardner said:
As for the 11 or 12 states, approximately a total of 45 Representatives would fill seats, but unless Congress changes the 1929 law on how many seats in the House--good luck with that--what would happen is an approximately 10% reduction in the number of seats apportioned to states with more than one Representative would occur. That means major states like California and New York would lose about 6 and 3 respectively, maybe more.
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If Congress admits them as States, they could easily make such a change.
T. A. Gardner said:
Given that most of Canada is not all that liberal / Leftist, most of the new states would end up in the Republican corner.
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To this I agree. The Canadian people have been living under oppressive government for so long, I would think they are quite fed up with it.
T. A. Gardner said:
Worse, since the US has the two-party system,
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There are over a dozen political parties in the U.S.
T. A. Gardner said:
the parliamentary system Canada uses end and again, the Left loses in that outcome.
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Yes. Parliament would necessarily dissolve. All States of the United States must be republics.
T. A. Gardner said:
The province of Quebec would no doubt throw a major fit over French no longer being allowed to dominate across what was Canada.
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True, which is why Quebec would probably remain independent.
T. A. Gardner said:
Now, if the Inuit territory became a state too, it might cause problems with Native Americans as well as with the Inuit who find their status under Canadian laws no longer applies. If instead, it became several reservations (there are different tribes involved) it would have very limited political clout compared to what it had under Canadian law.
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There really is no 'Inuit Territory'. The Inuit range all over Alaska and Canada.
 
Cypress said:
When Trump brings Canada into the United States, only a hyperpartisan scheming right-winger would think it fair that 40 million people only get two senators.

You would have to bring in the provinces as individual states, meaning a net gain for Democrats or the center-left of between 8 to 17 senators.
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The people of Canada is NOT the government of Canada, Sybil.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, the reality would be more like:

If Canada joined the US, it would do so as 11 states. The Inuit Territory in the Arctic would have to be resolved as either a state or as a new reservation as it has sort of that status in Canada now.

As for the 11 or 12 states, approximately a total of 45 Representatives would fill seats, but unless Congress changes the 1929 law on how many seats in the House--good luck with that--what would happen is an approximately 10% reduction in the number of seats apportioned to states with more than one Representative would occur. That means major states like California and New York would lose about 6 and 3 respectively, maybe more.

Given that most of Canada is not all that liberal / Leftist, most of the new states would end up in the Republican corner. Worse, since the US has the two-party system, the parliamentary system Canada uses end and again, the Left loses in that outcome. The province of Quebec would no doubt throw a major fit over French no longer being allowed to dominate across what was Canada.

Now, if the Inuit territory became a state too, it might cause problems with Native Americans as well as with the Inuit who find their status under Canadian laws no longer applies. If instead, it became several reservations (there are different tribes involved) it would have very limited political clout compared to what it had under Canadian law.
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If Canada "joined" the US it would happen only by coercion through economic pressure, producing no warm feelings toward the Republican Party.
 
martin said:
If Canada "joined" the US it would happen only by coercion through economic pressure, producing no warm feelings toward the Republican Party.
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Canada's economic problems are of the government of Canada's making.
For any part of Canada to become a State of the Union, they must abolish their dictatorship, create a constitution, and establish a republic, and apply to Congress (currently Republicans) for admittance to the Union.
 
'Come all within, come all without
When Quinn the Eskimo gets here
everybody's gonna scream and shout '
 
Cypress said:
When Trump brings Canada into the United States, only a hyperpartisan scheming right-winger would think it fair that 40 million people only get two senators.
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That's the case right now for California, Crypress...... so cry harder.

EVERY state gets two senators, regardless of population.
Cypress said:
You would have to bring in the provinces as individual states, meaning a net gain for Democrats or the center-left of between 8 to 17 senators.
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No you wouldn't.
 
gfm7175 said:
That's the case right now for California, Crypress...... so cry harder.

EVERY state gets two senators, regardless of population.

No you wouldn't.
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The SDTC is not a State of the Union. It's current form of government is dictatorship. For some strange reason it has representation in Congress.
 
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